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Posted: 4/18/2022 4:28:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: USN damage control is truly unequalled. The british were losing ships after one missile in the falklands. The Russians larger ships after two. The Usn be like: hold my bug juice That's because the USN is like: oh downtime? Fire drill! |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 4:29:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NBCMarine: Wanting YouTubers to get murdered because they don’t agree with you, excusing actual nazis because they do agree with you, advocating genocide, wanting to fight to the last Ukrainian even if it means irreversible damage to their home, and advocating nuclear war is. Of course it’s par for the course in GD bingo. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NBCMarine: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By NBCMarine: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By NBCMarine: Originally Posted By weptek911: Originally Posted By NBCMarine: No one needs to be saddened when a dude with a lack of situational awareness gets offed by a corrupt government. No one should be cheering it on either. Well no one should be cheering the Russians as they rape murder and loot their way across Ukraine but here we are. Are we? Idiots are literally posting Russian talking points have Z avatars and such so... Is this justification to cede moral high ground? Cheering the destruction of the people who are committing rape, murder, and genocide is not ceding anything. Don't be absurd. And you asked a question, I answered it...now you're changing the topic. Wanting YouTubers to get murdered because they don’t agree with you, excusing actual nazis because they do agree with you, advocating genocide, wanting to fight to the last Ukrainian even if it means irreversible damage to their home, and advocating nuclear war is. Of course it’s par for the course in GD bingo. You spelled Russian propagandist in a country Russia is currently invading wrong. What actual nazis? Be specific. I've said multiple times that advocating for genocide against Russians is stupid. Ukrainians are literally defending against genocide, why would they not defend to the last man? Who is advocating for nuclear war? Again, be specific. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 4:30:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By amanbearpig: Are people in this thread seriously rooting for and celebrating the death of American citizens in Ukraine?  Not caring is one thing but celebrating it is another. Sounds like the guy actively works against the welfare of the US, somewhat Jane Fonda-ish. What’s your issue with the general attitude of “goodbye” in this instance? |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 4:33:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By amanbearpig: Are people in this thread seriously rooting for and celebrating the death of American citizens in Ukraine? Not caring is one thing but celebrating it is another. If they're actively supporting the murder of innocent people, Im not only celebrating, Im having my own personal party everytime I hear or see it. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 4:34:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RolandofGilead: The Russian propaganda surrounding Azov is absolutely unhinged. Even Russians against the war often say stuff like: "but there ARE Nazis there...." Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By Alex9661: Originally Posted By M-1975:
The man never served in Azov LOL, he was with 36th Marines. BTW, in a couple of shitty Russian movies about the Donbass war that I've fast forwarded through, every Ukrainian serviceman had an Azov patch on his uniform. The Russian propaganda surrounding Azov is absolutely unhinged. Even Russians against the war often say stuff like: "but there ARE Nazis there...." They have to desperately hold on to their Nazi obsession; it's the linchpin to avoiding the truth: they were more brutal and less competent than the Nazis, got a much earlier start, and went in halfsies on starting the European portion of WW2 allied with the Nazis. It's by far the biggest example of the classic Russian thing about accusing your enemies of what you're doing, with extra autistic screeching thrown in because of the butthurt about being betrayed first. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 4:36:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By boltcatch: It's by far the biggest example of the classic Russian thing about accusing your enemies of what you're doing, with extra autistic screeching thrown in because of the butthurt about being betrayed first. Yup. It's the exact playbook BLM is using. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 4:36:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: I suggested in a university classroom once that killing communists was always self defense and therefore legal at all times and in all places. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: Originally Posted By TylerF: Oh I know. Bentley needs a dirt nap courtesy of the UAF. I haven't heard anything about him lately, so I was wondering. I suggested in a university classroom once that killing communists was always self defense and therefore legal at all times and in all places. How did that go? |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 4:37:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NBCMarine: Wanting YouTubers to get murdered because they don’t agree with you, excusing actual nazis because they do agree with you, advocating genocide, wanting to fight to the last Ukrainian even if it means irreversible damage to their home, and advocating nuclear war is. Of course it’s par for the course in GD bingo. You think Ukraine should roll over and submit to Russification? |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 4:38:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JustaGunNut: Uh, what made it prohibited? That is a Galil 7.62 Nato Sniper Rifle, obviously Nazi Jew weaponry. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 4:38:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By amanbearpig: Are people in this thread seriously rooting for and celebrating the death of American citizens in Ukraine? Not caring is one thing but celebrating it is another. Only people can be a citizens. Ipso facto, Russell Bentley isn't a citizen. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 4:40:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7empest]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ruin: Sounds like the guy actively works against the welfare of the US, somewhat Jane Fonda-ish. What’s your issue with the general attitude of “goodbye” in this instance? I would pay good money to see this "Texan" eat a Javelin. .png) If that makes me a bad person I guess if there is a heaven and hell I will hash that out then... Felt the same way about the "Americans" that joined ISIS. Fuck em. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 4:43:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: hiyaboa]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 7empest: I would pay good money to see this "Texan" eat a Javelin. https://www.star-telegram.com/latest-news/m593cq/picture258929133/alternates/FREE_1140/Screenshot%20(908).png If that makes me a bad person I guess if there is a heaven and hell I will hash that out then... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 7empest: Originally Posted By Ruin: Sounds like the guy actively works against the welfare of the US, somewhat Jane Fonda-ish. What’s your issue with the general attitude of “goodbye” in this instance? I would pay good money to see this "Texan" eat a Javelin. https://www.star-telegram.com/latest-news/m593cq/picture258929133/alternates/FREE_1140/Screenshot%20(908).png If that makes me a bad person I guess if there is a heaven and hell I will hash that out then... I quit drinking last year but I’ll crack a beer when he’s toast. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 4:43:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Glock63: I cheer the death of any communist. I dont give a fuck what country they come from. This, don't you get it? Communists are a cancer just like jihadists and they all needs to be "cured", no matter what nationality they are. I think the worst are American commies, they were born and raised in the richest country in the world filled with opportunities to succeed yet they chose to deny people's freedom of self determination and tear this country down because of their perverse belief in social injustice. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 4:43:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wulfmann: Confession of ignorance (No disrespect intended) Aside from Ploesti and the complete saturation bombing of Normandy to break the stalemate the only thing the allied bombing campaign did was prove we could be as murderous to civilians as the Nazis and force the Germans to become self sufficient without above ground facilities The post war negative affects alone crippled British conscience once the public became aware of the barbarity of bomber command's intentional war on women and children In fairness many British officers were adamantly opposed to the bombing campaign of Germany as it had no military value and was a war crime Of course war crimes are only committed by the losers. Winners of wars can laugh at the dead bodies of children VERY good assessment, thank you, Sir! |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 4:45:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wreckshooter: Your son was on the Moskva? Did I get that right? If so you have my greatest condolences. He’s translating for the parents there. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 4:47:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: You think Ukraine should roll over and submit to Russification? They're not going to get a say in the matter. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 4:47:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By glklvr: That's because the USN is like: oh downtime? Fire drill! Asked a friend what she did in the navy. She said she was a firefighter who also worked on radios. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 4:47:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mancow: How did that go? If I had known then what I know now about getting ass I would have held my tongue and just thought it. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 4:47:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hiyaboa: I quit drinking last year but I’ll crack a beer when he’s toast. I mean if there is anything worth cracking a beer it would be that. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 4:48:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sulman: They're not going to get a say in the matter. Ukraine or NBCMarine? |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 4:48:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wreckshooter: Your son was on the Moskva? Did I get that right? If so you have my greatest condolences. No he was interpreting a tweet from parental Orcs that were missing their Orc son, a sailor on the garbage scow formerly known as the Mokva. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 4:49:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: Ukraine or NBCMarine? Go way back in the thread and see his posts. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 4:49:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By glockluv: Maybe it's the propaganda working on me (genuinely, not to be snarky) I regularly see clips of the "TikTok Brigade" and it's just smiling/happy Chechens fuckin around mixed in with combat footage. They all look and sound very Chechen. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By glockluv: Originally Posted By Tiberius: The Kadyrovsky aren’t all Chechens. There are Chechens fighting for Ukraine as well, they consider Kadyrov to be a Quisling. Which he is…he and his father sold thier own people out for money. Maybe it's the propaganda working on me (genuinely, not to be snarky) I regularly see clips of the "TikTok Brigade" and it's just smiling/happy Chechens fuckin around mixed in with combat footage. They all look and sound very Chechen. They are Chechens…. But they are not all Chechens. They are goons in the pay of a Quisling, they are not truly representative of the Chechens as a people. If the subsidies Moscow pays to Kadyrov ever dries up, he and his men will all be dead inside of a month. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 4:50:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sulman: They're not going to get a say in the matter. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sulman: Originally Posted By Ryan_Scott: You think Ukraine should roll over and submit to Russification? They're not going to get a say in the matter. Seems like Ukraine has plenty to say in the matter lol |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 4:50:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MattyCR: If they're actively supporting the murder of innocent people, Im not only celebrating, Im having my own personal party everytime I hear or see it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MattyCR: Originally Posted By amanbearpig: Are people in this thread seriously rooting for and celebrating the death of American citizens in Ukraine? Not caring is one thing but celebrating it is another. If they're actively supporting the murder of innocent people, Im not only celebrating, Im having my own personal party everytime I hear or see it. Past time for a house cleaning. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 4:51:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: anono]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By polishkebasa: The rimpac 2016 video is always a cool watch, although I do not think the ship any ordnance onboard from he lack of fires but if some one knows, I would like to know!  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVsnUsbJ-XkI worked that RIMPAC and was directly involved with reporting those BDAs after each strike. (Unfortunately the pilot and crew who also worked those with me were some of the people who crashed earlier this year on Kauai, I posted about it, RIP). Anyways- those SINKEXs are totally apples to oranges to real combat. The ships are towed out to sea a day or two before, then Navy EOD cuts the anchor chain the morning of EX, and it drifts until sunk. 1) Those ships are almost totally void of fuel, oil, etc., not to mention ammo/explosives, and everything else that can possibly be removed- The EPA has a ton of leverage and those ships are as pristine as humanly possible. 2) The only shots that use real warheads are the final "kill" shot(s). Everything else is inert. What you can't see is that the kill on this one was supposed to be that sub shot. However, the torpedo didn't perform as designed and failed to sink the Thatch. After that I can't remember who exactly was called in, but it was a pair of either F18s or F22s from Oahu with MK83s. By that time it was dusk and we had to RTB, so we just saw the explosions from afar. Again, if I'm remembering the coms correctly each plane got to make two runs before it went under. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 4:51:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: You think Ukraine should roll over and submit to Russification? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: Originally Posted By NBCMarine: Wanting YouTubers to get murdered because they don’t agree with you, excusing actual nazis because they do agree with you, advocating genocide, wanting to fight to the last Ukrainian even if it means irreversible damage to their home, and advocating nuclear war is. Of course it’s par for the course in GD bingo. You think Ukraine should roll over and submit to Russification? Yes, because they are nazis, and corrupt. You can't get any worse than corrupt nazis. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 4:51:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 7empest: I would pay good money to see this "Texan" eat a Javelin. https://www.star-telegram.com/latest-news/m593cq/picture258929133/alternates/FREE_1140/Screenshot%20(908).png If that makes me a bad person I guess if there is a heaven and hell I will hash that out then... Felt the same way about the "Americans" that joined ISIS. Fuck em. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 7empest: Originally Posted By Ruin: Sounds like the guy actively works against the welfare of the US, somewhat Jane Fonda-ish. What's your issue with the general attitude of "goodbye" in this instance? I would pay good money to see this "Texan" eat a Javelin. https://www.star-telegram.com/latest-news/m593cq/picture258929133/alternates/FREE_1140/Screenshot%20(908).png If that makes me a bad person I guess if there is a heaven and hell I will hash that out then... Felt the same way about the "Americans" that joined ISIS. Fuck em. Nothing like fighting for freedom, by hanging your hat with a dictator. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 4:53:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: If I had known then what I know now about getting ass I would have held my tongue and just thought it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: Originally Posted By mancow: How did that go? If I had known then what I know now about getting ass I would have held my tongue and just thought it. Ha, I feel that. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 4:53:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By amanbearpig: Are people in this thread seriously rooting for and celebrating the death of American citizens in Ukraine? Not caring is one thing but celebrating it is another. They aren’t people, they are commies. You should understand this. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 4:54:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wreckshooter: Your son was on the Moskva? Did I get that right? If so you have my greatest condolences. He was quoting, didn't lose a commie son on old Ruskie yatch. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 4:55:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RolandofGilead: You spelled Russian propagandist in a country Russia is currently invading wrong. What actual nazis? Be specific. I've said multiple times that advocating for genocide against Russians is stupid. Ukrainians are literally defending against genocide, why would they not defend to the last man? Who is advocating for nuclear war? Again, be specific. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By NBCMarine: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By NBCMarine: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By NBCMarine: Originally Posted By weptek911: Originally Posted By NBCMarine: No one needs to be saddened when a dude with a lack of situational awareness gets offed by a corrupt government. No one should be cheering it on either. Well no one should be cheering the Russians as they rape murder and loot their way across Ukraine but here we are. Are we? Idiots are literally posting Russian talking points have Z avatars and such so... Is this justification to cede moral high ground? Cheering the destruction of the people who are committing rape, murder, and genocide is not ceding anything. Don't be absurd. And you asked a question, I answered it...now you're changing the topic. Wanting YouTubers to get murdered because they don’t agree with you, excusing actual nazis because they do agree with you, advocating genocide, wanting to fight to the last Ukrainian even if it means irreversible damage to their home, and advocating nuclear war is. Of course it’s par for the course in GD bingo. You spelled Russian propagandist in a country Russia is currently invading wrong. What actual nazis? Be specific. I've said multiple times that advocating for genocide against Russians is stupid. Ukrainians are literally defending against genocide, why would they not defend to the last man? Who is advocating for nuclear war? Again, be specific. Have you not read this thread? The Ukraine neo nazi girl who killed a cop got plenty of support here, plenty are calling for a nuclear war because they foolishly believe the Russian’s nukes won’t work Is the Ukrainian govt so vulnerable that some internet hack should be murdered? Should the Ukrainians defend to the last man? Debatable but remember before folks advocate heroic gestures like blowing up their and the EU’s pipelines remember they have to live there win or lose. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 4:55:22 PM EDT
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Sniper of the Donetsk People's Republic working on the positions of the Azov battalion
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Posted: 4/18/2022 4:55:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TylerF: You know that moron (if he is still breathing that is) has no concept that once his usefulness runs out to his Russian "Heroes", they'll be just as likely to shoot him and dump him into a ditch as he thinks his own enemies will. Nothing like fighting for freedom, by hanging your hat with a dictator. He would feed a few orcs they wouldn't need to cook dogs.. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 4:58:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: You think Ukraine should roll over and submit to Russification? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: Originally Posted By NBCMarine: Wanting YouTubers to get murdered because they don’t agree with you, excusing actual nazis because they do agree with you, advocating genocide, wanting to fight to the last Ukrainian even if it means irreversible damage to their home, and advocating nuclear war is. Of course it’s par for the course in GD bingo. You think Ukraine should roll over and submit to Russification? Not familiar with that account huh? 
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Posted: 4/18/2022 4:59:34 PM EDT
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MSNBC has Marines now.
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Posted: 4/18/2022 5:01:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bassgasm: I'm going to repeat myself a bit, but it's been several hundred pages... There are at least three REALLY big caveats to Russia's performance in WWII: 1) They were receiving massive amounts of industrial and logistical support from the US. They got thousands of trucks, aircraft, raw materials, etc. 2) They were fighting a smaller enemy, and that enemy was both fighting wars on multiple fronts and subject to strategic bombing from the other side of Europe. 3) Despite points #1 and #2, they still sent millions and millions of men to their deaths, and a large percentage of those men were sourced from other Soviet states. https://external-preview.redd.it/8CazYVBNZQaT7juHsZI7B0VYMoQ_8Add0_tHfkNRsho.gif?format=png8&s=c33622e894f049b7d0e25cf7308ce9ec74a1aad1 I wouldn't use WWII as positive supporting evidence for what Russia is theoretically capable of... That graph contradicts every stat graph I have ever seen. Where did it come from? |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 5:01:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: You think Ukraine should roll over and submit to Russification? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: Originally Posted By NBCMarine: Wanting YouTubers to get murdered because they don’t agree with you, excusing actual nazis because they do agree with you, advocating genocide, wanting to fight to the last Ukrainian even if it means irreversible damage to their home, and advocating nuclear war is. Of course it’s par for the course in GD bingo. You think Ukraine should roll over and submit to Russification? It’s debatable. Personally I would have tried to come to terms after Biden’s state of the union when he called them Iranians. The whole speech stank of giving the Ukrainians enough aid to get the Russians really pissed but sorry you aren’t in NATO. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 5:01:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: USN damage control is truly unequalled. The british were losing ships after one missile in the falklands. The Russians larger ships after two. The Usn be like: hold my bug juice Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: Originally Posted By polishkebasa: The OHP really proved themselves as durable little ships. On paper the capabilities of an Slava class cruisers is an order of magnitude higher than something like an OHP, the original mission of these vessels being to attack USN carrier task forces implying they would survive at least long enough to expend their missiles. I doubt we will ever really know the exact circumstances of what happened, and there is always some luck in these situations as it seems that there might have been an hit to the RBU magazine. The rimpac 2016 video is always a cool watch, although I do not think the ship any ordnance onboard from he lack of fires but if some one knows, I would like to know! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVsnUsbJ-XkHere's a good video of the effects of the Joint strike missile/Naval Strike missile with a smaller warhead than the harpoon or neptune https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=um3_6NM6II4USN damage control is truly unequalled. The british were losing ships after one missile in the falklands. The Russians larger ships after two. The Usn be like: hold my bug juice USS Franklin made it home and was fully repaired. She wasn't stricken from the register until 1964.   USS Laffey was hit by four bombs and six kamikazes. She was decommissioned in 1975 and lives on as a museum today:   
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Posted: 4/18/2022 5:01:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mancow: MSNBC has Marines now. God save us. Get out of my head! |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 5:02:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: You think Ukraine should roll over and submit to Russification? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: Originally Posted By NBCMarine: Wanting YouTubers to get murdered because they don’t agree with you, excusing actual nazis because they do agree with you, advocating genocide, wanting to fight to the last Ukrainian even if it means irreversible damage to their home, and advocating nuclear war is. Of course it’s par for the course in GD bingo. You think Ukraine should roll over and submit to Russification? that would be obliteration. that's what they are faced with. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 5:02:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: CenterMass762]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 7empest: I would pay good money to see this "Texan" eat a Javelin. https://www.star-telegram.com/latest-news/m593cq/picture258929133/alternates/FREE_1140/Screenshot%20(908).png If that makes me a bad person I guess if there is a heaven and hell I will hash that out then... Felt the same way about the "Americans" that joined ISIS. Fuck em. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 7empest: Originally Posted By Ruin: Sounds like the guy actively works against the welfare of the US, somewhat Jane Fonda-ish. What’s your issue with the general attitude of “goodbye” in this instance? I would pay good money to see this "Texan" eat a Javelin. https://www.star-telegram.com/latest-news/m593cq/picture258929133/alternates/FREE_1140/Screenshot%20(908).png If that makes me a bad person I guess if there is a heaven and hell I will hash that out then... Felt the same way about the "Americans" that joined ISIS. Fuck em. I 100% want that guy to take a round to the face and I also don't give a fuck what it makes me. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 5:03:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By polishkebasa: The rimpac 2016 video is always a cool watch, although I do not think the ship any ordnance onboard from he lack of fires but if some one knows, I would like to know! It's not an apples to apples comparison; any ship out for a "SINKEX" will have no ordnance, no fuel / oil, very few combustibles, excess 'stuff' removed, no helicopters, etc. It's not so much a test of an old ship to stay afloat, but an opportunity to expend weapons against a live ship 'target'. I image all the hatches are sealed as well, which might not be the case with a crewed ship underway. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 5:03:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By glockluv: Roland is the Russian Troll?  The guy with an 03 join date who's posted vacation pics? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By glockluv: Originally Posted By Jack67: Back from a weekend of spring cleaning at the dacha. Roland is the Russian Troll? The guy with an 03 join date who's posted vacation pics? I'm a Jarhead like Roland....  |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 5:04:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NBCMarine: It’s debatable. Personally I would have tried to come to terms after Biden’s state of the union when he called them Iranians. The whole speech stank of giving the Ukrainians enough aid to get the Russians really pissed but sorry you aren’t in NATO. “Coming To terms” is allowing yourself to be genocided. Zelensky has balls and the Ukrainian people have the will to fight. They are winning. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 5:05:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By outofbattery: Not familiar with that account huh? I am, I just want him to say it. There’s a reason I keep asking if Christ ought have refused the cross. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 5:07:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NBCMarine: It’s debatable. Personally I would have tried to come to terms after Biden’s state of the union when he called them Iranians. The whole speech stank of giving the Ukrainians enough aid to get the Russians really pissed but sorry you aren’t in NATO. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NBCMarine: Originally Posted By Ryan_Scott: Originally Posted By NBCMarine: Wanting YouTubers to get murdered because they don’t agree with you, excusing actual nazis because they do agree with you, advocating genocide, wanting to fight to the last Ukrainian even if it means irreversible damage to their home, and advocating nuclear war is. Of course it’s par for the course in GD bingo. You think Ukraine should roll over and submit to Russification? It’s debatable. Personally I would have tried to come to terms after Biden’s state of the union when he called them Iranians. The whole speech stank of giving the Ukrainians enough aid to get the Russians really pissed but sorry you aren’t in NATO. By your logic train we should submit fully to Russia and china's desires because of MAD. I mean if resistance ultimately arrives at the same conclusion what's the point of trying? |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 5:10:50 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: I suggested in a university classroom once that killing communists was always self defense and therefore legal at all times and in all places. My man! 
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Posted: 4/18/2022 5:10:57 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NBCMarine: Have you not read this thread? The Ukraine neo nazi girl who killed a cop got plenty of support here, plenty are calling for a nuclear war because they foolishly believe the Russian’s nukes won’t work Is the Ukrainian govt so vulnerable that some internet hack should be murdered? Should the Ukrainians defend to the last man? Debatable but remember before folks advocate heroic gestures like blowing up their and the EU’s pipelines remember they have to live there win or lose. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NBCMarine: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By NBCMarine: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By NBCMarine: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By NBCMarine: Originally Posted By weptek911: Originally Posted By NBCMarine: No one needs to be saddened when a dude with a lack of situational awareness gets offed by a corrupt government. No one should be cheering it on either. Well no one should be cheering the Russians as they rape murder and loot their way across Ukraine but here we are. Are we? Idiots are literally posting Russian talking points have Z avatars and such so... Is this justification to cede moral high ground? Cheering the destruction of the people who are committing rape, murder, and genocide is not ceding anything. Don't be absurd. And you asked a question, I answered it...now you're changing the topic. Wanting YouTubers to get murdered because they don’t agree with you, excusing actual nazis because they do agree with you, advocating genocide, wanting to fight to the last Ukrainian even if it means irreversible damage to their home, and advocating nuclear war is. Of course it’s par for the course in GD bingo. You spelled Russian propagandist in a country Russia is currently invading wrong. What actual nazis? Be specific. I've said multiple times that advocating for genocide against Russians is stupid. Ukrainians are literally defending against genocide, why would they not defend to the last man? Who is advocating for nuclear war? Again, be specific. Have you not read this thread? The Ukraine neo nazi girl who killed a cop got plenty of support here, plenty are calling for a nuclear war because they foolishly believe the Russian’s nukes won’t work Is the Ukrainian govt so vulnerable that some internet hack should be murdered? Should the Ukrainians defend to the last man? Debatable but remember before folks advocate heroic gestures like blowing up their and the EU’s pipelines remember they have to live there win or lose. You mean the girl that was acquitted of charges? That girl? You showed me one Nazi there, I can show you one in Russia too. You were trying to play it off as if there's nazis everywhere there. At any rate, does she not have the right to defend her home against fascist invaders? Yes, people rightfully doubt their nukes will work, but outside of maybe one or two outliers, nobody is advocating for nuclear war. Agreed, they have to live there win or lose, but remember the invaders believe they have no right to be Ukrainians, no right to self determination, are you telling me you wouldn't fight to the last in that case? This is all deflection from your first incorrect post that "nobody is rooting for Russia" when a quick peek in GD tells us all that you are FOS, and plenty of people are in fact rooting for them. |
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