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Posted: Today 8:21:19 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GutWrench: It’s crazy how much this affects peoples lives. I like talking about it politics but at the end of the day. All I can do is cast 1 single vote. Same as them. For me to get butthurt and call in sick or walk around with my head down just seems silly. Politics has become like a sport for the masses. Some pick a team or in the case of Trump they pick a canidate and ride them to the end cheering like a high school pep squad. Hyping themselves up so much that if your team or candidate loses it hits them like a death in the family. All for a person or persons they have never met in their lives. It’s strange to me. Intriguing.. but strange. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GutWrench: Originally Posted By MK3110: A few no shows in my office today It’s crazy how much this affects peoples lives. I like talking about it politics but at the end of the day. All I can do is cast 1 single vote. Same as them. For me to get butthurt and call in sick or walk around with my head down just seems silly. Politics has become like a sport for the masses. Some pick a team or in the case of Trump they pick a canidate and ride them to the end cheering like a high school pep squad. Hyping themselves up so much that if your team or candidate loses it hits them like a death in the family. All for a person or persons they have never met in their lives. It’s strange to me. Intriguing.. but strange. Ayup. Our society is circling the drain. |
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Posted: Today 8:23:16 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1paintball: DID I STUTTER?... https://media.tenor.com/CAnwhnHJTRAAAAAM/bh187-the-devils-rejects.gif Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1paintball: Originally Posted By Never_A_Wick: Originally Posted By 1paintball: Generally N_T is an abbreviation for Never_Trumper, with emphasis on the underscore as an identifier. There are other delightful terms that it can stand for as well, as they are often co-morbid with the affliction, such as: Neo_Tard, No_Testosterone, Never_Truthful, Notably_Trifling, Nascent_Transexual...ect.  (The last one being particularly spicy considering the profligate homo-erotic ideations exibited by the archetype)...DID I STUTTER?... https://media.tenor.com/CAnwhnHJTRAAAAAM/bh187-the-devils-rejects.gif Likely. |
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Posted: Today 8:24:20 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eurotrash: Originally, it probably meant conservatives who were not voting for Trump. The TX Rabbit, fadedsun and duck_hunt would fit that original definition. Colloquially, its been expanded to include conservatives who spread their hatred of Trump far and wide but are voting for him anyway. Lots of words have lost their original meaning. Republican and Democrat are two examples. Hey, I don’t make the rules. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eurotrash: Originally Posted By Never_A_Wick:  I know what the abbreviation stands for, and so does everyone else. I didn't ask for someone to decode it. Once again, I'm waiting for someone to define "Never Trumper." Originally, it probably meant conservatives who were not voting for Trump. The TX Rabbit, fadedsun and duck_hunt would fit that original definition. Colloquially, its been expanded to include conservatives who spread their hatred of Trump far and wide but are voting for him anyway. Lots of words have lost their original meaning. Republican and Democrat are two examples. Hey, I don’t make the rules. Republican and democrat are political parties and their definitions haven’t changed. Now conservative and liberal has. I am a classical liberal, which based on the use of the term liberal, 87% of GD would confuse that with being a “commie”. |
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Posted: Today 8:36:05 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Low_Country: It’s been explained over and over. They can’t just comprehend that at the end of 2020, more people wanted somebody other than Trump, than Trump. Or how what has driven people away are the Trump supporters themselves. |
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Posted: Today 8:41:40 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: Or how what has driven people away are the Trump supporters themselves.  Attached File |
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Posted: Today 9:01:08 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: Or how what has driven people away are the Trump supporters themselves. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: Originally Posted By Low_Country: It’s been explained over and over. They can’t just comprehend that at the end of 2020, more people wanted somebody other than Trump, than Trump. Or how what has driven people away are the Trump supporters themselves. NTs have driven people away. Ukraine supporters have driven people away. Maybe the people who were “driven away” are doing something more productive with their time. |
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Posted: Today 9:04:17 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eurotrash: NTs have driven people away. Ukraine supporters have driven people away. Maybe the people who were “driven away” are doing something more productive with their time. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eurotrash: Originally Posted By fadedsun: Originally Posted By Low_Country: It’s been explained over and over. They can’t just comprehend that at the end of 2020, more people wanted somebody other than Trump, than Trump. Or how what has driven people away are the Trump supporters themselves. NTs have driven people away. Ukraine supporters have driven people away. Maybe the people who were “driven away” are doing something more productive with their time. Once again, devolved to the “I know you are, but what am I?”, defense..: |
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Posted: Today 9:07:02 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Never_A_Wick: Thanks for at least trying I’d also include “people who disagree with Trump’s policies and are vocal about it.” Especially here. It’s actually pretty funny, the anger level of some posters has ramped UP since his election victory. Sore winners and all that I guess. I haven’t noticed anything outside the normal GD hate train. |
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Posted: Today 9:09:56 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TxRabbitBane: Once again, devolved to the “I know you are, but what am I?”, defense..: Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TxRabbitBane: Originally Posted By eurotrash: Originally Posted By fadedsun: Originally Posted By Low_Country: It’s been explained over and over. They can’t just comprehend that at the end of 2020, more people wanted somebody other than Trump, than Trump. Or how what has driven people away are the Trump supporters themselves. NTs have driven people away. Ukraine supporters have driven people away. Maybe the people who were “driven away” are doing something more productive with their time. Once again, devolved to the “I know you are, but what am I?”, defense..: There is a complete lack of self awareness in saying “what has driven people away are the Trump supporters themselves.” Similarly with you accusing anybody else of being in a “cult.” |
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Posted: Today 9:11:54 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eurotrash: NTs have driven people away. Ukraine supporters have driven people away. Maybe the people who were “driven away” are doing something more productive with their time. Dude go back and read the first 10 pages of this thread. The Trump Fanatics said they didn’t even need conservatives at all. “That are commies and Marxist.” “Only Trump supports are conservative.” |
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Posted: Today 9:14:05 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GutWrench: Dude go back and read the first 10 pages of this thread. The Trump Fanatics said they didn’t even need conservatives at all. “That are commies and Marxist.” “Only Trump supports are conservative.” Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GutWrench: Originally Posted By eurotrash: NTs have driven people away. Ukraine supporters have driven people away. Maybe the people who were “driven away” are doing something more productive with their time. Dude go back and read the first 10 pages of this thread. The Trump Fanatics said they didn’t even need conservatives at all. “That are commies and Marxist.” “Only Trump supports are conservative.” Sir, this is GD. If you’re looking for discourse that follows the Socratic Method you’re in the wrong place. |
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Posted: Today 9:18:46 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Low_Country: Almost all of us voted for Trump. Him defeating Harris is a win for the right. But it doesn’t change a single thing about the past - his progressive and ineffective presidency to be specific. But I wish him the best, and hope for many small government conservative wins over the next four years. I’m just finally happy we can put those stolen election lies to bed finally. The four years of “voting doesn’t matter” tards should be ashamed of themselves. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Low_Country: Originally Posted By ApacheScout: Lol, lot of bridges burned that can't be rebuilt in this thread. Almost all of us voted for Trump. Him defeating Harris is a win for the right. But it doesn’t change a single thing about the past - his progressive and ineffective presidency to be specific. But I wish him the best, and hope for many small government conservative wins over the next four years. I’m just finally happy we can put those stolen election lies to bed finally. The four years of “voting doesn’t matter” tards should be ashamed of themselves. The Internet is serious business to some folks 
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Posted: Today 9:28:37 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eurotrash: Sir, this is GD. If you’re looking for discourse that follows the Socratic Method you’re in the wrong place. I understand that. This is just a small sample of the electorate and I would say a little more tweaked and paranoid schizophrenic. |
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Posted: Today 9:53:37 AM EST
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Posted: Today 10:29:56 AM EST
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Quote HistoryThe first clip was glorious!... Lol. The one with the crying SoyBoi is the literal embodiment of the memes.  
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Posted: Today 10:37:08 AM EST
[Last Edit: Alwaysright]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Never_A_Wick: Thanks for at least trying I’d also include “people who disagree with Trump’s policies and are vocal about it.” Especially here. It’s actually pretty funny, the anger level of some posters has ramped UP since his election victory. Sore winners and all that I guess. There are threads about court marshals and hangings with a whole list of people, and other revenge threads—that's a great look for ARF. |
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Posted: Today 10:56:27 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Never_A_Wick: I know what the abbreviation stands for, and so does everyone else. I didn't ask for someone to decode it. Once again, I'm waiting for someone to define "Never Trumper." Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Never_A_Wick: Originally Posted By 1paintball: Generally N_T is an abbreviation for Never_Trumper, with emphasis on the underscore as an identifier. There are other delightful terms that it can stand for as well, as they are often co-morbid with the affliction, such as: Neo_Tard, No_Testosterone, Never_Truthful, Notably_Trifling, Nascent_Transexual...ect. (The last one being particularly spicy considering the profligate homo-erotic ideations exibited by the archetype)...I know what the abbreviation stands for, and so does everyone else. I didn't ask for someone to decode it. Once again, I'm waiting for someone to define "Never Trumper." I don't know either, but it's certainly not "people who have some issues with Trump, but still vote for him." I would think a NEVER Trumper would never vote for him. With that in mind, there are only a handful here. This thread is hilarious, because it's 300 pages of disagreements between people who probably 90% agree and mostly voted for the same guy. Your next president, and 3 time election champ, DJT. |
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Posted: Today 10:57:28 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: Or how what has driven people away are the Trump supporters themselves. Also very true. |
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Posted: Today 10:58:14 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eurotrash: There is a complete lack of self awareness in saying “what has driven people away are the Trump supporters themselves.” Similarly with you accusing anybody else of being in a “cult.” lol |
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Posted: Today 11:00:16 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GutWrench: No one liked Kamala. No one. She doesn’t even like herself. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GutWrench: Originally Posted By Missilegeek: She is going to be around 10 million short of Biden... The geriatric, unpopular lifelong politician, who didn't campaign. Yet somehow got millions more than anyone else in history. No one liked Kamala. No one. She doesn’t even like herself. No one ever liked Biden either. The big lie in 2020 was "Trump is toxic and unelectable and that's why 81,000,000 showed up to vote for Biden." Kamala is more coherent and campaigning more than Biden in 2020 did. She is a women. She isn't White. If the 2020 lies were true and held up, Kamala would have 90,000,000 votes and would have easily won this election. |
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Posted: Today 11:04:33 AM EST
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Posted: Today 11:06:41 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Missilegeek: No one ever liked Biden either. The big lie in 2020 was "Trump is toxic and unelectable and that's why 81,000,000 showed up to vote for Biden." Kamala is more coherent and campaigning more than Biden in 2020 did. She is a women. She isn't White. If the 2020 lies were true and held up, Kamala would have 90,000,000 votes and would have easily won this election. That’s not true. I mean, nobody in Trump’s circle liked Biden. But to many many people, he was a harmless, neutral, balanced, experienced return to normalcy. That was his appeal. That was why it didn’t matter if he campaigned or not. When you fail to try and understand the perspective of other people, you’ll almost always have a twisted version of reality. |
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Posted: Today 11:16:04 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Never_A_Wick: *snip* It’s actually pretty funny, the anger level of some posters has ramped UP since his election victory. Sore winners and all that I guess. 
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Posted: Today 11:16:39 AM EST
[Last Edit: MK3110]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Missilegeek: No one ever liked Biden either. The big lie in 2020 was "Trump is toxic and unelectable and that's why 81,000,000 showed up to vote for Biden." Kamala is more coherent and campaigning more than Biden in 2020 did. She is a women. She isn't White. If the 2020 lies were true and held up, Kamala would have 90,000,000 votes and would have easily won this election. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Missilegeek: Originally Posted By GutWrench: Originally Posted By Missilegeek: She is going to be around 10 million short of Biden... The geriatric, unpopular lifelong politician, who didn't campaign. Yet somehow got millions more than anyone else in history. No one liked Kamala. No one. She doesn’t even like herself. No one ever liked Biden either. The big lie in 2020 was "Trump is toxic and unelectable and that's why 81,000,000 showed up to vote for Biden." Kamala is more coherent and campaigning more than Biden in 2020 did. She is a women. She isn't White. If the 2020 lies were true and held up, Kamala would have 90,000,000 votes and would have easily won this election. Biden “campaigned” as the antithesis of Trump. Experienced and more stabile with better temperament during a time with unprecedented turmoil. I’m not saying any of that is true, but no doubt many ‘normies’ did. Why would being a woman help FKH? She’s a cunty woman. If 2008 and 2016 have taught us anything, it’s Americans, on a national level, have rejected cunty women. ETA: and Trump is good at running against cunty women. |
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Posted: Today 11:21:01 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 7255: The Internet is serious business to some folks |
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Posted: Today 11:24:59 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Low_Country: That’s not true. I mean, nobody in Trump’s circle liked Biden. But to many many people, he was a harmless, neutral, balanced, experienced return to normalcy. That was his appeal. That was why it didn’t matter if he campaigned or not. When you fail to try and understand the perspective of other people, you’ll almost always have a twisted version of reality. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Low_Country: Originally Posted By Missilegeek: No one ever liked Biden either. The big lie in 2020 was "Trump is toxic and unelectable and that's why 81,000,000 showed up to vote for Biden." Kamala is more coherent and campaigning more than Biden in 2020 did. She is a women. She isn't White. If the 2020 lies were true and held up, Kamala would have 90,000,000 votes and would have easily won this election. That’s not true. I mean, nobody in Trump’s circle liked Biden. But to many many people, he was a harmless, neutral, balanced, experienced return to normalcy. That was his appeal. That was why it didn’t matter if he campaigned or not. When you fail to try and understand the perspective of other people, you’ll almost always have a twisted version of reality. "Never underestimate Joe's ability to fuck things up" Barack Obama Joe was never well liked or respected in his own party. He has a ton of terrible old history and a record that does not match up well with contemporary young Democrats. He was retired because of that and the fact that everyone knew that he was well over the hill and mentally incompetent... Even for Congress. They brought him back and want people to believe he was magically the most voted for president of all time. Yeah that is obvious bullshit. Anyone who believes that story is a gullible idiot. |
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Posted: Today 11:26:29 AM EST
[Last Edit: Alwaysright]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Missilegeek: I don't know either, but it's certainly not "people who have some issues with Trump, but still vote for him." I would think a NEVER Trumper would never vote for him. With that in mind, there are only a handful here. This thread is hilarious, because it's 300 pages of disagreements between people who probably 90% agree and mostly voted for the same guy. Your next president, and 2 time election champ, DJT. Fixed it for you. |
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Posted: Today 11:27:57 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MK3110: Biden “campaigned” as the antithesis of Trump. Experienced and more stabile with better temperament during a time with unprecedented turmoil. I’m not saying any of that is true, but no doubt many ‘normies’ did. Why would being a woman help FKH? She’s a cunty woman. If 2008 and 2016 have taught us anything, it’s Americans, on a national level, have rejected cunty women. ETA: and Trump is good at running against cunty women. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MK3110: Originally Posted By Missilegeek: Originally Posted By GutWrench: Originally Posted By Missilegeek: She is going to be around 10 million short of Biden... The geriatric, unpopular lifelong politician, who didn't campaign. Yet somehow got millions more than anyone else in history. No one liked Kamala. No one. She doesn’t even like herself. No one ever liked Biden either. The big lie in 2020 was "Trump is toxic and unelectable and that's why 81,000,000 showed up to vote for Biden." Kamala is more coherent and campaigning more than Biden in 2020 did. She is a women. She isn't White. If the 2020 lies were true and held up, Kamala would have 90,000,000 votes and would have easily won this election. Biden “campaigned” as the antithesis of Trump. Experienced and more stabile with better temperament during a time with unprecedented turmoil. I’m not saying any of that is true, but no doubt many ‘normies’ did. Why would being a woman help FKH? She’s a cunty woman. If 2008 and 2016 have taught us anything, it’s Americans, on a national level, have rejected cunty women. ETA: and Trump is good at running against cunty women. Democrats love the idea of voting for the first woman and having a woman president. You really can't be blind to the whole affirmative action / DEI movement? Obviously not ALL Democrats love the idea of a woman POTUS, but that is the espoused value... Especially when contrasted with options of rich old white men. |
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Posted: Today 11:28:39 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MK3110: Biden “campaigned” as the antithesis of Trump. Experienced and more stabile with better temperament during a time with unprecedented turmoil. I’m not saying any of that is true, but no doubt many ‘normies’ did. Why would being a woman help FKH? She’s a cunty woman. If 2008 and 2016 have taught us anything, it’s Americans, on a national level, have rejected cunty women. ETA: and Trump is good at running against cunty women.  |
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Posted: Today 11:32:37 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Missilegeek: "Never underestimate Joe's ability to fuck things up" Barack Obama Joe was never well liked or respected in his own party. He has a ton of terrible old history and a record that does not match up well with contemporary young Democrats. He was retired because of that and the fact that everyone knew that he was well over the hill and mentally incompetent... Even for Congress. They brought him back and want people to believe he was magically the most voted for president of all time. Yeah that is obvious bullshit. Anyone who believes that story is a gullible idiot. I’d argue that the “gullible idiots”, as you say, are the ones who repeated for 4 years “voting doesn’t matter, they’ll never let a Republican win again, etc” drivel, and even after being proven undeniably wrong, still insist on trying to adjudicate 2020 and defend the lies they fell for. So, here we are. |
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Posted: Today 11:34:54 AM EST
[Last Edit: macros73]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Missilegeek: No one ever liked Biden either. The big lie in 2020 was "Trump is toxic and unelectable and that's why 81,000,000 showed up to vote for Biden." Kamala is more coherent and campaigning more than Biden in 2020 did. She is a women. She isn't White. If the 2020 lies were true and held up, Kamala would have 90,000,000 votes and would have easily won this election. The tables turned on Biden in 2024, and he was a -7 compared to Trump. Going into the 2024 election, Trump was positive to neutral vs Harris depending on the polls, instead of crawling along the ocean bottom compared to Biden. Far more people liked Biden than Trump in 2020. |
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Posted: Today 11:35:06 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Missilegeek: I don't know either, but it's certainly not "people who have some issues with Trump, but still vote for him.” Maybe not by your definition… Many posters here fit that exact description and they are pigeonholed as NTs by most of GD, or at least the cross section without basic comprehension and critical thinking skills. |
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Posted: Today 11:37:22 AM EST
[Last Edit: MK3110]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Missilegeek: Democrats love the idea of voting for the first woman and having a woman president. You really can't be blind to the whole affirmative action / DEI movement? Obviously not ALL Democrats love the idea of a woman POTUS, but that is the espoused value... Especially when contrasted with options of rich old white men. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Missilegeek: Originally Posted By MK3110: Originally Posted By Missilegeek: Originally Posted By GutWrench: Originally Posted By Missilegeek: She is going to be around 10 million short of Biden... The geriatric, unpopular lifelong politician, who didn't campaign. Yet somehow got millions more than anyone else in history. No one liked Kamala. No one. She doesn’t even like herself. No one ever liked Biden either. The big lie in 2020 was "Trump is toxic and unelectable and that's why 81,000,000 showed up to vote for Biden." Kamala is more coherent and campaigning more than Biden in 2020 did. She is a women. She isn't White. If the 2020 lies were true and held up, Kamala would have 90,000,000 votes and would have easily won this election. Biden “campaigned” as the antithesis of Trump. Experienced and more stabile with better temperament during a time with unprecedented turmoil. I’m not saying any of that is true, but no doubt many ‘normies’ did. Why would being a woman help FKH? She’s a cunty woman. If 2008 and 2016 have taught us anything, it’s Americans, on a national level, have rejected cunty women. ETA: and Trump is good at running against cunty women. Democrats love the idea of voting for the first woman and having a woman president. You really can't be blind to the whole affirmative action / DEI movement? Obviously not ALL Democrats love the idea of a woman POTUS, but that is the espoused value... Especially when contrasted with options of rich old white men. They didn’t love it so much when they voted for a half black man in 2008, nor when they choose a grumpy white socialist curmudgeon over the same cunty woman in ‘16. Have you ever worked with a large group of women? They fucking hate each other. Also it’s independents that swing elections. There’s no doubt that a large swath of independents that saw Joe as a moderate and a return to normalcy saw FKH as an incompetent DEI hire and were tired of have woke bullshit shoved down their throats like a bushel of dicks at an Umberto bukkake. ETA: In 2016 independent voters went to Trump 47-41. In 2020 they went to Biden 54-41. Interestingly enough, in 2016 dems went to FHRC 89-9 while going to Biden 94-6 in 2020. So seems dems and independents do prefer old white men to bitchy women. Still waiting to see demographics for 2024. |
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Posted: Today 11:42:19 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Never_A_Wick: Maybe not by your definition… Many posters here fit that exact description and they are pigeonholed as NTs by most of GD, or at least the cross section without basic comprehension and critical thinking skills. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Never_A_Wick: Originally Posted By Missilegeek: I don't know either, but it's certainly not "people who have some issues with Trump, but still vote for him.” Maybe not by your definition… Many posters here fit that exact description and they are pigeonholed as NTs by most of GD, or at least the cross section without basic comprehension and critical thinking skills. Well it's one thing to hear people say "I'll probably vote for him when the time comes" a month or more prior to the election, while they spew endless hatred and MSM talking points. When people say "I just voted for him" it's pretty hard to reconcile the idea of calling those people "N_Ts" |
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Posted: Today 11:47:01 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Missilegeek: Well it's one thing to hear people say "I'll probably vote for him when the time comes" a month or more prior to the election, while they spew endless hatred and MSM talking points. When people say "I just voted for him" it's pretty hard to reconcile the idea of calling those people "N_Ts" 
On the other end, we have people who feel like this about Trump, but will vote for him anyway: 
Then you've got the crew whose only interest is: 
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Posted: Today 11:48:40 AM EST
[Last Edit: Never_A_Wick]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Missilegeek: Well it's one thing to hear people say "I'll probably vote for him when the time comes" a month or more prior to the election, while they spew endless hatred and MSM talking points. When people say "I just voted for him" it's pretty hard to reconcile the idea of calling those people "N_Ts" MSM talking points? You think people who have legitimate objections to him and some of the things he’s said and done are just regurgitating fake news? Despite what it might look like, people can actually think for themselves. I voted for him. I’m absolutely not required to be his cheerleader. I don’t even have to like him a little bit. |
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Posted: Today 11:50:43 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Missilegeek: Well it's one thing to hear people say "I'll probably vote for him when the time comes" a month or more prior to the election, while they spew endless hatred and MSM talking points. When people say "I just voted for him" it's pretty hard to reconcile the idea of calling those people "N_Ts" It’s hilarious that anything negative about Trump is an “MSM talking point”. It makes it impossible to take you seriously when you demonstrate that level of bias and dishonesty. The things most of us don’t like are his undisputed executive actions and rhetoric. Ya know, facts. |
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Posted: Today 11:50:51 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Missilegeek: Well it's one thing to hear people say "I'll probably vote for him when the time comes" a month or more prior to the election, while they spew endless hatred and MSM talking points. When people say "I just voted for him" it's pretty hard to reconcile the idea of calling those people "N_Ts" Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Missilegeek: Originally Posted By Never_A_Wick: Originally Posted By Missilegeek: I don't know either, but it's certainly not "people who have some issues with Trump, but still vote for him.” Maybe not by your definition… Many posters here fit that exact description and they are pigeonholed as NTs by most of GD, or at least the cross section without basic comprehension and critical thinking skills. Well it's one thing to hear people say "I'll probably vote for him when the time comes" a month or more prior to the election, while they spew endless hatred and MSM talking points. When people say "I just voted for him" it's pretty hard to reconcile the idea of calling those people "N_Ts" Which MSM talking points have been spewed in this thread (other than Macros )?
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Posted: Today 12:00:01 PM EST
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Quote HistoryMost of the women look like they are from Wisconsin. 
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Posted: Today 12:01:00 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Never_A_Wick: MSM talking points? You think people who have legitimate objections to him and some of the things he’s said and done are just regurgitating fake news? Despite what it might look like, people can actually think for themselves. I voted for him. I’m absolutely not required to be his cheerleader. I don’t even have to like him a little bit. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Never_A_Wick: Originally Posted By Missilegeek: Well it's one thing to hear people say "I'll probably vote for him when the time comes" a month or more prior to the election, while they spew endless hatred and MSM talking points. When people say "I just voted for him" it's pretty hard to reconcile the idea of calling those people "N_Ts" MSM talking points? You think people who have legitimate objections to him and some of the things he’s said and done are just regurgitating fake news? Despite what it might look like, people can actually think for themselves. I voted for him. I’m absolutely not required to be his cheerleader. I don’t even have to like him a little bit. A lot of the individual distinctions are lost in the screeching / name calling that devolves into us vs them mentality... Lots of examples of that on both sides. Shit most everyone who has been in this thread has been guilty of it at some point, including me. It's fairly obvious that there's a pretty wide spectrum of Trump supporters and critics. The critics range from full blown Kamala supporting Marxists, to those with mild disagreements with a few policies. The supporters range from I can barely stand to vote for the guy as the least bad option; to cult like religious worship. The funny part of this thread, is that it's mostly people I would put on the spectrum of Trump supporter arguing about what and how much he has fucked up. |
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Posted: Today 12:02:55 PM EST
[Last Edit: macros73]
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MK3110: Which MSM talking points have been spewed in this thread (other than Macros )?Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MK3110: Originally Posted By Missilegeek: Originally Posted By Never_A_Wick: Originally Posted By Missilegeek: I don't know either, but it's certainly not "people who have some issues with Trump, but still vote for him.” Maybe not by your definition… Many posters here fit that exact description and they are pigeonholed as NTs by most of GD, or at least the cross section without basic comprehension and critical thinking skills. Well it's one thing to hear people say "I'll probably vote for him when the time comes" a month or more prior to the election, while they spew endless hatred and MSM talking points. When people say "I just voted for him" it's pretty hard to reconcile the idea of calling those people "N_Ts" Which MSM talking points have been spewed in this thread (other than Macros )?Eh, we're circling back around to "Trump talking points good" and "factually grounded and vetted talking points bad, if they contradict Trump." "2020 was a stolen election" can be labeled a "talking point", as can "2020 wasn't a stolen election." I also at least try to fact check myself, and don't willingly spread disinformation like misleading charts from Zero Chaos. |
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Posted: Today 12:10:35 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Low_Country: It’s hilarious that anything negative about Trump is an “MSM talking point”. It makes it impossible to take you seriously when you demonstrate that level of bias and dishonesty. The things most of us don’t like are his undisputed executive actions and rhetoric. Ya know, facts. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Low_Country: Originally Posted By Missilegeek: Well it's one thing to hear people say "I'll probably vote for him when the time comes" a month or more prior to the election, while they spew endless hatred and MSM talking points. When people say "I just voted for him" it's pretty hard to reconcile the idea of calling those people "N_Ts" It’s hilarious that anything negative about Trump is an “MSM talking point”. It makes it impossible to take you seriously when you demonstrate that level of bias and dishonesty. The things most of us don’t like are his undisputed executive actions and rhetoric. Ya know, facts. There's a bunch of people in this thread, saying a lot of things. There have been tons of examples of nonsensical MSM talking points as well as spreading their outright falsehoods. There are also a good number of legitimate criticisms of Trump's failures and flaws. Any halfway honest conservative is not thrilled with everything Trump has done with spending and the 2A, among other things. Some people don't like to talk or think about it, right before / during an election, where he is still the best / only option on those key issues; but that doesn't make the criticism and concerns any less valid. |
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Posted: Today 12:12:59 PM EST
[Last Edit: TxRabbitBane]
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eurotrash: There is a complete lack of self awareness in saying “what has driven people away are the Trump supporters themselves.” Similarly with you accusing anybody else of being in a “cult.” Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eurotrash: Originally Posted By TxRabbitBane: Originally Posted By eurotrash: Originally Posted By fadedsun: Originally Posted By Low_Country: It’s been explained over and over. They can’t just comprehend that at the end of 2020, more people wanted somebody other than Trump, than Trump. Or how what has driven people away are the Trump supporters themselves. NTs have driven people away. Ukraine supporters have driven people away. Maybe the people who were “driven away” are doing something more productive with their time. Once again, devolved to the “I know you are, but what am I?”, defense..: There is a complete lack of self awareness in saying “what has driven people away are the Trump supporters themselves.” Similarly with you accusing anybody else of being in a “cult.” Don’t want to be labeled a cult, quit acting like irrational fanatics religiously following Trump. If you could acknowledge that your dude is not, in fact, perfect, and has, in fact, done and said things that should make constitutionalists and conservatives dislike him with good reason, Until then, you’re a cult. |
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Posted: Today 12:15:49 PM EST
[#44]
Given that the election is over, it seems to me that it's probably time to close down this thread. 
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Posted: Today 12:16:10 PM EST
[Last Edit: Missilegeek]
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MK3110: Which MSM talking points have been spewed in this thread (other than Macros )?Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MK3110: Originally Posted By Missilegeek: Originally Posted By Never_A_Wick: Originally Posted By Missilegeek: I don't know either, but it's certainly not "people who have some issues with Trump, but still vote for him.” Maybe not by your definition… Many posters here fit that exact description and they are pigeonholed as NTs by most of GD, or at least the cross section without basic comprehension and critical thinking skills. Well it's one thing to hear people say "I'll probably vote for him when the time comes" a month or more prior to the election, while they spew endless hatred and MSM talking points. When people say "I just voted for him" it's pretty hard to reconcile the idea of calling those people "N_Ts" Which MSM talking points have been spewed in this thread (other than Macros )?I'm too lazy to dig it up, but if you dig back through the thread, the best example was someone posted a fake news story headline. The headline debunked itself in the body of the article. It was illogical to begin with. IIRC, the lie was that Trump admitted that the 2020 election results were legitimate. And in the referenced interview, Trump directly calls 2020 a fraud, and they took a phrase he said elsewhere in the interview out of context, distorted what he said and invented the lying headline. People here believed that, and reposted it without even bothering to listen to the 5 minute clip where it was an obvious lie. |
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Posted: Today 12:18:04 PM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DK-Prof: Given that the election is over, it seems to me that it's probably time to close down this thread. Nah. Consider this an early start to the 2028 Never Trumper thread. |
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Posted: Today 12:19:33 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MK3110: Biden “campaigned” as the antithesis of Trump. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MK3110: Originally Posted By Missilegeek: Originally Posted By GutWrench: Originally Posted By Missilegeek: She is going to be around 10 million short of Biden... The geriatric, unpopular lifelong politician, who didn't campaign. Yet somehow got millions more than anyone else in history. No one liked Kamala. No one. She doesn’t even like herself. No one ever liked Biden either. The big lie in 2020 was "Trump is toxic and unelectable and that's why 81,000,000 showed up to vote for Biden." Kamala is more coherent and campaigning more than Biden in 2020 did. She is a women. She isn't White. If the 2020 lies were true and held up, Kamala would have 90,000,000 votes and would have easily won this election. Biden “campaigned” as the antithesis of Trump. So did Kamala. Pretty much the exact same platform, with the same exact talking points. |
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Posted: Today 12:21:56 PM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DK-Prof: Given that the election is over, it seems to me that it's probably time to close down this thread. We need to keep it going for 4 more years, so when Trump leaves the Whitehouse, I can post this meme one more time and laugh once again at all the fools who believed the MSM lies. 
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Posted: Today 12:22:04 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GutWrench: Dude go back and read the first 10 pages of this thread. The Trump Fanatics said they didn't even need conservatives at all. "That are commies and Marxist." "Only Trump supports are conservative." Like a factory break table filled with folks like when I worked at international paper. Mostly low IQ or people saying retarded stuff and bitching and moaning. I would just laugh and then talk about how there was rumors of a upcoming layoff. Fuckers would lose their minds Or the best was talking about how the rumor was mandatory sat and Sunday overtime. |
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Posted: Today 12:22:12 PM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Missilegeek: There are also a good number of legitimate criticisms of Trump's failures and flaws. Any halfway honest conservative is not thrilled with everything Trump has done with spending and the 2A, among other things. Some people don't like to talk or think about it, right before / during an election, where he is still the best / only option on those key issues; but that doesn't make the criticism and concerns any less valid. My reputation here is pretty much as the OG NeverTrumper. He fell out of favor with me around 2018, and even more so into 2019, 2020, his Covid response, and then the “stolen election” debacle. But all over objectively factual things. And things that almost every self-purported conservative would condemn, but because somehow it is Trump’s doing, it gets excused or justified. That’s the reality of Trumpmania. Throw in my absolute condemnation of that “Q” phenomenon during the same time frame that so many here feel for hook, line, and sinker, and you develop quite an unpopular reputation. And all of that then has to get balanced by the fact that the democrats continue to run candidates so bad, and continue to push an agenda so awful, that electing them is simply unimaginable. So you end up finding yourself despising the Republican nominee, but having to vote for him. And vote for him in 3 fucking elections. |
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