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Link Posted: 10/13/2015 10:21:37 PM EDT
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Just like discussions about CAS aircraft, attack helicopters, and other weapon systems - the system that comes in first is the one whose leadership actually has the balls to use it when needed.

Looks like they're hitting orchards there.  Random people are going to get blown up for years.
Link Posted: 10/13/2015 10:21:39 PM EDT
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quantity has a quality all its' own
Link Posted: 10/13/2015 10:23:25 PM EDT
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How is it against A10's ?
Link Posted: 10/13/2015 10:23:38 PM EDT
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They keep using and increase the use of weapons like that, and they very well may begin to alter the battlefield in Syria.

Where were all the snack bars? Lol
Link Posted: 10/13/2015 10:24:44 PM EDT
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I assume because it isn't a nice or kind way to blow people to pieces?
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12 300mm rockets (BM-30 Smerch)
12 227mm rockets (M270 MLRS)

If the Russians can make em accurate, they could seriously put the hurt on someone. ESPECIALLY when you consider max range is nearly TWICE of ours.



We no longer use unguided rounds or submunitions



I assume because it isn't a nice or kind way to blow people to pieces?

Blew too many kids hands off after the battles and concerns for collateral effects
Link Posted: 10/13/2015 10:27:28 PM EDT
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Hope that wasn't the Kurds on the receiving end.
Link Posted: 10/13/2015 10:28:31 PM EDT
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12 300mm rockets (BM-30 Smerch)
12 227mm rockets (M270 MLRS)

If the Russians can make em accurate, they could seriously put the hurt on someone. ESPECIALLY when you consider max range is nearly TWICE of ours.



We no longer use unguided rounds or submunitions


Blew too many kids hands off after the battles and concerns for collateral effects
I assume because it isn't a nice or kind way to blow people to pieces?



The Russians used "toy" bombs to deliberately blow off the arms and hands of children.....
Link Posted: 10/13/2015 10:31:21 PM EDT
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Sounds like the camera man was so taken back that he could barely get out a snack bar....
Link Posted: 10/13/2015 10:34:02 PM EDT
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Sounds like the camera man was so taken back that he could barely get out a snack bar....
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That's what you want.   You don't want some fucker screaming "Come and get me!"   you want them to go "oh........damn".  
Link Posted: 10/13/2015 10:34:37 PM EDT
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Cameraman's radio transmissions stopped coming in after all that too
Link Posted: 10/13/2015 10:35:03 PM EDT
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The Russians used "toy" bombs to deliberately blow off the arms and hands of children.....
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They are much more realistic about the nature of war
Link Posted: 10/13/2015 10:35:10 PM EDT
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I wonder how many enemy were in that area? It seems like a lot of firepower to take out a dozen guys.



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That's the Russian way. . .



 
Link Posted: 10/13/2015 10:47:54 PM EDT
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dupe
Link Posted: 10/13/2015 10:48:46 PM EDT
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The design inspiration was my favorite firework as a kid.

http://bjalan.com/image/cache/data/G-025-500x500.png
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Link Posted: 10/13/2015 10:52:56 PM EDT
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Saturn Battery, 504-Shot....Mother of God !!!!.........
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The design inspiration was my favorite firework as a kid.

http://bjalan.com/image/cache/data/G-025-500x500.png



Saturn Battery, 504-Shot....Mother of God !!!!.........

"Hey bubba, let's melt down Jr's.  big ass box of crayons and dump some black powder in with them. "
Link Posted: 10/13/2015 10:54:55 PM EDT
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How many grid squares make up iraqistaria?  I think we found the solution.
Link Posted: 10/13/2015 10:58:43 PM EDT
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12 300mm rockets (BM-30 Smerch)
12 227mm rockets (M270 MLRS)

If the Russians can make em accurate, they could seriously put the hurt on someone. ESPECIALLY when you consider max range is nearly TWICE of ours.
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12 300mm rockets (BM-30 Smerch)
12 227mm rockets (M270 MLRS)

If the Russians can make em accurate, they could seriously put the hurt on someone. ESPECIALLY when you consider max range is nearly TWICE of ours.

Max published range
Link Posted: 10/13/2015 11:02:12 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/13/2015 11:07:29 PM EDT
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This is a BM-30 Smerch, not the TOS-1 Burantino. The TOS-1 uses thermobarics and this is not thermobarics, if it was it'd look like a nuke.

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This is a BM-30 Smerch, not the TOS-1 Burantino. The TOS-1 uses thermobarics and this is not thermobarics, if it was it'd look like a nuke.



How are you identifying a weapon system you can't even see?
Link Posted: 10/13/2015 11:12:05 PM EDT
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Obama will be dead and rotting, and Assad will still be in power.
Link Posted: 10/13/2015 11:13:42 PM EDT
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The silence of the cameraman spoke volumes, considering how generally overused the snackbar is. He was dumbstruck. Good.

It shows they don't have anything that equates to a hushed "Jesus H. Christ" or "Lookit that shit" in their garbage sounding language.
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Hahaha, Exactly!
Link Posted: 10/13/2015 11:14:38 PM EDT
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The amount of UXO's that probably left behind... pretty messed up. People will be losing limbs in that area years from now. But hey, they're all probably terrorists, right? Screw em.

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Link Posted: 10/13/2015 11:17:17 PM EDT
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BREAK BREAK BREAK

ALL STATIONS THIS NET THE SNACK BAR IS CLOSING EARLY
Link Posted: 10/13/2015 11:36:35 PM EDT
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Don't know how effective it is, but it sure looks like a crapton of pain over a very, very large area.
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I bet that it cleared the area of any antitank missile teams.
Link Posted: 10/13/2015 11:38:36 PM EDT
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Anyone or anything that was caught inside that kill box had some very bad---but very exciting----last few moments on this earth.





 
Link Posted: 10/13/2015 11:39:16 PM EDT
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I found another view of what appears to be the same strike.

Title says it is BM-30s, and they hit Hama on Oct 11th.

Link Posted: 10/13/2015 11:39:40 PM EDT
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King of Battle for a mother fucking reason
Link Posted: 10/13/2015 11:47:13 PM EDT
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I found another view of what appears to be the same strike.

Title says it is BM-30s, and they hit Hama on Oct 11th.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk_AdzMZytw
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Snackbar warning
Link Posted: 10/13/2015 11:51:09 PM EDT
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Russia is doing what needs to be done. Hopefully America stays out of their way.
Link Posted: 10/13/2015 11:57:42 PM EDT
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The amount of UXO's that probably left behind... pretty messed up. People will be losing limbs in that area years from now. But hey, they're all probably terrorists, right? Screw em.

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That's persistent relief to help knockdown recurring infestations.
Link Posted: 10/14/2015 12:07:28 AM EDT
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Lol. Aloha snackbar
Link Posted: 10/14/2015 12:08:27 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/14/2015 12:14:43 AM EDT
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Is it better to be feared or respected?" I say, is it too much to ask for both?
 










 
Link Posted: 10/14/2015 12:27:16 AM EDT
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I guess they haven't figured out counter battery fire yet? That launcher was obvious as fuck at dusk.
Link Posted: 10/14/2015 12:27:42 AM EDT
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Aloha snackbar!! Do we have use stuff like that ?
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Link Posted: 10/14/2015 12:32:48 AM EDT
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Man, the russians were really putin the hurt on them.  
Link Posted: 10/14/2015 12:32:57 AM EDT
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Those fuckers are winning some hearts and minds aren't they?
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I don't think that is their intent.
Link Posted: 10/14/2015 12:32:57 AM EDT
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Wow. . .
Link Posted: 10/14/2015 12:33:06 AM EDT
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Seems to be a bit more effective than a barrel bomb dropped from an Mi-8.

ETA Spelling
Link Posted: 10/14/2015 12:33:32 AM EDT
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Snackbar warning
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I found another view of what appears to be the same strike.

Title says it is BM-30s, and they hit Hama on Oct 11th.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk_AdzMZytw



Snackbar warning


There sure was.
Link Posted: 10/14/2015 12:34:21 AM EDT
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Ivan, about those Rules of Engagement . . .
Link Posted: 10/14/2015 12:38:18 AM EDT
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I guess they haven't figured out counter battery fire yet? That launcher was obvious as fuck at dusk.
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Alternatively, if I was a commander that had those as a resource to use against an less than well equipped enemy, I'd absolutely launch at dusk.

All those flashes and fire just add to the psychological impact.
Link Posted: 10/14/2015 12:38:33 AM EDT
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Ivan, about those Rules of Engagement . . .
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I said across her nose, not up it!
Link Posted: 10/14/2015 12:39:08 AM EDT
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War is Hell

Link Posted: 10/14/2015 12:40:27 AM EDT
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Their hearts and minds arent worth it. Don't want, don't need.
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Their hearts and minds arent worth it. Don't want, don't need.
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Their hearts and minds arent worth it. Don't want, don't need.



Very succinct.
Link Posted: 10/14/2015 12:42:46 AM EDT
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I said across her nose, not up it!
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Ivan, about those Rules of Engagement . . .

I said across her nose, not up it!

lol. They've gone from suck to blow. Snackbar.
Link Posted: 10/14/2015 12:44:48 AM EDT
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Must suck to be smerched.
Link Posted: 10/14/2015 12:48:01 AM EDT
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The Russian cluster bombs in my experience are meh. They are large, clunky and have a high dud rate. Ours are small, numerous, very effective and have a high dud rate.

The data I have shows we used the following just for Desert Storm.

The US dropped 27,987 Rockeye bombs over Iraq and Kuwait during Operation Desert Storm, resulting in the release of 6,912,789 Mk 118 bomblets. The MK 118 bomblet weighs 1.32 pounds, and contains a shaped charge capable of piercing 7.5 inches of armor and 31 inches of reinforced concrete.

The US dropped 10,035 CBU-87/B's on Iraq and Kuwait during the 1991 Gulf War, resulting in the release of 2,027,070 BLU-97/B bomblets. In addition, the U.S. Navy launched 27 TLAM-D cruise missiles carrying the BLU-97/B. The TLAMD carries 166 bomblets, resulting in the release of 4,482 BLU-97/B bomblets.

During the Gulf War, U.S. forces used 232 MLRS launchers, and fired 17,286 MLRS rockets, resulting in the release of 11,132,184 M77 bomblets.

According to the Human Rights Watch Arms Project, some 100,000 cluster munitions were shot from artillery projectiles during the Gulf War, resulting in the release of @8,800,000 M42/M46 DPICM submunitions.

Total for Desert Storm: >37,676,525 submunitions.

This is just the hard numbers. We also dropped another 4-5 million BLU-77 APAMS, BLU-61 Softballs and BLU-63 Baseballs during DS.
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I never did get the totals we used during OIF/OEF, but I'm sure we still used a shit ton.

The last time I looked, we still had >8,000,000 rounds of 155mm DPICM in the inventory. Each round carries 88 submunitions. Plus 10's of thousands of MLRS rockets each with 644 DPICM submuntions. Lets not forget the few hundred thousand various aircraft delivered cluster bombs.

If we wanted to we could unleash hell on anyone we desired.
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