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Posted: 4/24/2023 7:45:31 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/24/2023 7:47:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: trapsh00ter99]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NwG: With starship rumored to be getting 30' taller Who wants to bet it ends up being 420' tall ? 69 meters tall 
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Posted: 4/24/2023 8:19:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vmpglenn: Twitter livestream right before the launch, during which Elon mentioned a 10m extension for Starship. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vmpglenn: Originally Posted By Utahshooting: Really?? Hadn't heard that reported. Wonder if it's yet another floor for occupant, propellent, or both. I watched a good video that discussed ideas for layout of crew and storage areas on Starship. Imagine a space going "capsule" with more interior volume than the Intl. Space station?!? Where did you hear that? Twitter livestream right before the launch, during which Elon mentioned a 10m extension for Starship. |
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Posted: 4/24/2023 10:00:00 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/24/2023 10:51:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By elcope:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FufSrs4XwAMbqoU?format=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FufSrssXgAgcfyt?format=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FufSrsrXsAEJghc?format=jpg&name=large @DK-Prof https://starbaseoutfitters.com/starbase-scale-models/ Don't tempt me!!! 
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Posted: 4/25/2023 9:51:34 AM EDT
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Not sure if this has been posted or not.....gives a sense of the amount of debris flying.
 [60fps] Rover 2 Cam Survives Armageddon During Launch of Starship Superheavy |
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Posted: 4/25/2023 12:25:13 PM EDT
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 FAA Grounds SpaceX Starship Program but it's OK...| Elon to Host Starship Flight 1 Review on Friday |
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Posted: 4/25/2023 2:10:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryIs that a good source? I tend to discount channels that fit Spacex into their name. |
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Posted: 4/25/2023 2:28:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By shooter_gregg: Is that a good source? I tend to discount channels that fit Spacex into their name. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By shooter_gregg: I tend to discount any channels that use computer-generated voices instead of human narrators. |
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Posted: 4/25/2023 4:17:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CleverNickname: I tend to discount any channels that use computer-generated voices instead of human narrators. Yeah, robot voice is instant close. |
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Posted: 4/25/2023 4:55:37 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/25/2023 5:15:28 PM EDT
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 [4K] [HEADPHONES] Starship Launch - High Fidelity Audio |
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Posted: 4/25/2023 6:59:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Zam18th]
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#NZinforma Launch of the space rocket #SpaceX Starship seen from Bagdad beach in #Matamoros , Mexico. It lifted off successfully from the Boca Chica Space Center, Texas, located less than 40 kilometers NE of the Mexican border city.
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Posted: 4/25/2023 7:49:53 PM EDT
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Good thread
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Posted: 4/25/2023 8:32:39 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/25/2023 9:09:07 PM EDT
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 Spectators watch SpaceX's Starship launch |
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Posted: 4/25/2023 11:28:50 PM EDT
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 The world's most powerful rocket takes off in 4K 120fps |
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Posted: 4/26/2023 7:14:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By t75fnaco3pwzhd: I do think its going to be awhile. But I think you guys are expecting a complete repair before the next launch. Like they're going to bring all the infrastructure back to new condition. I think they're going to slap a bandaid on it and keep going. For example, I suspect they'll leave the dents in the tank farm and just weld up holes in place. They've already demonstrated how tough those tanks are. So they'll just plug any holes and keep going. They'll just repair the launch mount in a similar fashion. |
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Posted: 4/26/2023 11:44:29 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/26/2023 1:00:37 PM EDT
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 Holy shit, the steel plate wall on the draw works house for the tower got turned to Swiss cheese   SpaceX Starship Flight Test: First Look at Damage to the Launch Site! | WAI NC 4K |
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Posted: 4/26/2023 2:48:29 PM EDT
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Fortunately the draw works itself is protected by the tower. Those holes have corresponding holes in the face shielding of the dog house.
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Posted: 4/26/2023 3:44:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wwace: ADD some pressure and the dents will pop right out. Those are outer shells. They're there for insulation but probably prevented the tanks from being damaged or pierced. |
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Posted: 4/26/2023 3:47:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Furloaf: Those are outer shells. They're there for insulation but probably prevented the tanks from being damaged or pierced. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Furloaf: Originally Posted By wwace: ADD some pressure and the dents will pop right out. Those are outer shells. They're there for insulation but probably prevented the tanks from being damaged or pierced. One of the LOX tanks appeared to have been pierced |
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Posted: 4/26/2023 4:01:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Zam18th]
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Someone uploaded Elon's pre-launch twitter space.
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Posted: 4/26/2023 5:50:01 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/26/2023 6:03:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TinLeg]
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Holy cow above graphic gives me that excited feeling deep down like a kid before Christmas.
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Posted: 4/26/2023 6:23:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By elcope:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FumvKTPXgAQwhjd?format=jpg&name=large Not a hair on Elon's sack if he doesn't re-brand Starship 2 as Big Chungus. |
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Posted: 4/26/2023 6:43:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dmnoid77: Not a hair on Elon's sack if he doesn't re-brand Starship 2 as Big Chungus. Or "Tiny".
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Posted: 4/26/2023 6:43:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By elcope:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FumvKTPXgAQwhjd?format=jpg&name=large This graphic has the Super Heavy grid fins folded against the body of the rocket, whereas the launch last week had them extended during launch. Does anyone know if they'll only have them extended the whole time during that first launch (sort of like the first flight of a new aircraft design where the landing gear stays down the whole time), or if they'll be extended for all Super Heavy launches? |
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Posted: 4/26/2023 6:46:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CleverNickname: This graphic has the Super Heavy grid fins folded against the body of the rocket, whereas the launch last week had them extended during launch. Does anyone know if they'll only have them extended the whole time during that first launch (sort of like the first flight of a new aircraft design where the landing gear stays down the whole time), or if they'll be extended for all Super Heavy launches? They are non-folding structural catch points for the chopsticks. |
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Posted: 4/26/2023 6:47:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CleverNickname: This graphic has the Super Heavy grid fins folded against the body of the rocket, whereas the launch last week had them extended during launch. Does anyone know if they'll only have them extended the whole time during that first launch (sort of like the first flight of a new aircraft design where the landing gear stays down the whole time), or if they'll be extended for all Super Heavy launches? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CleverNickname: Originally Posted By elcope:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FumvKTPXgAQwhjd?format=jpg&name=large This graphic has the Super Heavy grid fins folded against the body of the rocket, whereas the launch last week had them extended during launch. Does anyone know if they'll only have them extended the whole time during that first launch (sort of like the first flight of a new aircraft design where the landing gear stays down the whole time), or if they'll be extended for all Super Heavy launches? |
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Posted: 4/26/2023 7:13:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CleverNickname: This graphic has the Super Heavy grid fins folded against the body of the rocket, whereas the launch last week had them extended during launch. Does anyone know if they'll only have them extended the whole time during that first launch (sort of like the first flight of a new aircraft design where the landing gear stays down the whole time), or if they'll be extended for all Super Heavy launches? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CleverNickname: Originally Posted By elcope:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FumvKTPXgAQwhjd?format=jpg&name=large This graphic has the Super Heavy grid fins folded against the body of the rocket, whereas the launch last week had them extended during launch. Does anyone know if they'll only have them extended the whole time during that first launch (sort of like the first flight of a new aircraft design where the landing gear stays down the whole time), or if they'll be extended for all Super Heavy launches?  Why did #SpaceX keep #Starship’s Grid Fins out on ascent? |
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Posted: 4/26/2023 8:47:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CleverNickname: This graphic has the Super Heavy grid fins folded against the body of the rocket, whereas the launch last week had them extended during launch. Does anyone know if they'll only have them extended the whole time during that first launch (sort of like the first flight of a new aircraft design where the landing gear stays down the whole time), or if they'll be extended for all Super Heavy launches? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CleverNickname: Originally Posted By elcope:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FumvKTPXgAQwhjd?format=jpg&name=large This graphic has the Super Heavy grid fins folded against the body of the rocket, whereas the launch last week had them extended during launch. Does anyone know if they'll only have them extended the whole time during that first launch (sort of like the first flight of a new aircraft design where the landing gear stays down the whole time), or if they'll be extended for all Super Heavy launches? They determined it didn't really affect aerodynamics that much. Folding is another thing to break. The best part is no part. SpaceX engineering a summary. |
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Posted: 4/26/2023 8:54:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By elcope:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FumvKTPXgAQwhjd?format=jpg&name=large AIUI, 12-meter Starship/SH is still the “unofficially official” next step, after Starship is operational. |
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Posted: 4/26/2023 9:23:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Zam18th]
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Posted: 4/27/2023 1:32:39 AM EDT
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In regards to the giant crater under the launch pad... could they just pack it full of already cured concrete blocks and pour a reinforced concrete slab over it? Or are they going to have to find a way to keep the high water table from saturating the concrete causing future steam explosions?
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Posted: 4/27/2023 7:14:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By memsu: They determined it didn't really affect aerodynamics that much. Folding is another thing to break. The best part is no part. SpaceX engineering a summary. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By memsu: Originally Posted By CleverNickname: Originally Posted By elcope:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FumvKTPXgAQwhjd?format=jpg&name=large This graphic has the Super Heavy grid fins folded against the body of the rocket, whereas the launch last week had them extended during launch. Does anyone know if they'll only have them extended the whole time during that first launch (sort of like the first flight of a new aircraft design where the landing gear stays down the whole time), or if they'll be extended for all Super Heavy launches? They determined it didn't really affect aerodynamics that much. Folding is another thing to break. The best part is no part. SpaceX engineering a summary. Yeah, if everything goes right and the rocket stays in the proper AoA. Once it slips out it is very difficult if not impossible to recover. I expect on a a future booster it will have folding grid fins and aft base fins. |
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Posted: 4/27/2023 9:06:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dmnoid77: They are non-folding structural catch points for the chopsticks. No they aren’t, they have pins for that. |
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Posted: 4/27/2023 9:11:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CleverNickname: This graphic has the Super Heavy grid fins folded against the body of the rocket, whereas the launch last week had them extended during launch. Does anyone know if they'll only have them extended the whole time during that first launch (sort of like the first flight of a new aircraft design where the landing gear stays down the whole time), or if they'll be extended for all Super Heavy launches? They are no longer foldable |
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Posted: 4/27/2023 9:12:35 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Obo2]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dmnoid77: They are non-folding structural catch points for the chopsticks. There are pins for the catch. They dont fold cause extra weight/complexity and they are most aerodynamic when extended anyway. |
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Posted: 4/27/2023 9:16:35 AM EDT
[Last Edit: RhinelandArms]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mort: In regards to the giant crater under the launch pad... could they just pack it full of already cured concrete blocks and pour a reinforced concrete slab over it? Or are they going to have to find a way to keep the high water table from saturating the concrete causing future steam explosions? My guess-and I did go through engineering a long time ago is that will not work. There is a new tool out that if I remember right uses a blast of heat and something else(pulses of some kind) to cut through solid granite, its basically a mini rocket engine. This rocket is acting very much like that new tool but on such a massive scale nobody knows how to deal with it yet. I have no doubt somebody will figure it out soon. |
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Posted: 4/27/2023 10:05:45 AM EDT
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 Starship Test Flight 1 // 4K Slow Mo Supercut w/ Tracking and Incredible Audio |
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Posted: 4/27/2023 10:27:14 AM EDT
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Starship Launch Aftermath
 Starship Launch Aftermath The aftermath of the first Starship Super Heavy launch around the launch complex, shot a couple days after launch once the public road was opened back up. The liftoff on April 20 caused significant damage to the pad, surrounding refuge & even the rocket itself. The rocket proceeded into ascent & Max Q, before tumbling & being self-destructed. |
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Posted: 4/27/2023 11:02:38 AM EDT
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I am curious to see what the fix/retrofit for Boca Chica stage 0 will be.
How far along is the launch mount/stage 0 at cape canaveral? I haven't been paying attention. Hopefully they can integrate the lessons learned in Boca Chica there without too much pain. |
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Posted: 4/27/2023 11:09:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Obo2: There are pins for the catch. They dont fols cause extra weight/complexity and they are most aerodynamic when extended anyway. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Obo2: Originally Posted By dmnoid77: They are non-folding structural catch points for the chopsticks. There are pins for the catch. They dont fols cause extra weight/complexity and they are most aerodynamic when extended anyway. My mistake. May have been thinking of the early versions. |
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Posted: 4/27/2023 11:26:22 AM EDT
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 Wednesday Slideshow: Laser Scanner on OLP, SpaceX Starbase, Boca Chica, TX, April 26, 2023 |
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Posted: 4/27/2023 11:40:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1Andy2: I am curious to see what the fix/retrofit for Boca Chica stage 0 will be. How far along is the launch mount/stage 0 at cape canaveral? I haven't been paying attention. Hopefully they can integrate the lessons learned in Boca Chica there without too much pain. Crews pretty much stopped work on the launch mount at the Cape about 2 months ago to go to BC and help out there with the Starship launch. No telling when they will be back until a rebuild plan is put in place and set in motion at Boca Chica. |
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Posted: 4/27/2023 12:25:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MtnMusic: IMHO, the closer other programs get to providing viable orbital launch services for the fedgov, the more they are going to tighten the screws down on There's a possibility that Starship may never fly again (at least from a US launch site). |
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Posted: 4/27/2023 12:29:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dagger41: Crews pretty much stopped work on the launch mount at the Cape about 2 months ago to go to BC and help out there with the Starship launch. No telling when they will be back until a rebuild plan is put in place and set in motion at Boca Chica. Yeah, kinda feels like they need to nail down the stage 0 design before they get too far along building stage 0 at canaveral. I don't think NASA will appreciate volkswagen sized concrete chunks landing all over the facility.
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Posted: 4/27/2023 12:43:48 PM EDT
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LIVE
 Build Site, SpaceX Starbase, Boca Chica, TX April 27, 2023 |
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