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Posted: 8/23/2020 10:41:28 PM EST
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Spuhr stock, extended safety and cocking handle.
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Posted: 8/24/2020 5:26:48 AM EST
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What does an MSG90 trigger pack run?
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Posted: 8/24/2020 6:55:56 AM EST
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I sent my HK 91 to TSC Machine for a conversion to a G3K. Due back in a month or so.
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Posted: 8/24/2020 6:59:16 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Has every mod done to it.  https://i932.photobucket.com/albums/ad167/Beltfedshooters/HK%20Clones/IMGA0040.jpg What is that on the back of the pistol grip? Does it make it CA compliant or something? |
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Posted: 8/24/2020 7:00:28 AM EST
[#5]
 Cetme bayonet. Has that bolo swale to it, kinda cool. |
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Posted: 8/24/2020 7:01:06 AM EST
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Membership to HKPRO
Two day battle rifle training class. |
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Posted: 8/24/2020 7:17:39 AM EST
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Pew
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Posted: 8/24/2020 7:18:29 AM EST
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Good sling is all you need. I have a collapsible stock, but you don't really "need" that. It's just neat.
I did see a pic of a Portuguese soldier in Africa and he had a neat handstop at the back of the handguard and a light up front. Couldn't figure out how they had it attached to the thin handguards though. |
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Posted: 8/24/2020 7:37:43 AM EST
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The factory slim handguards are pretty much useless, they’ve got no heat shield at all.
 With the modern correct-size barrels PTR is using, you could get a surplus German slim handguard as a stopgap. Wide handguards are better but pretty much unobtainable for the last 6-8 months.  AimSports and Midwest both make fancier M-LOK handguards. The Aim version is about a 1/3 the price, and they’ve got keymod and 1913 flavors if you like those. Midwest looks nicer. Heavy buffer is a solid upgrade. PCS version is a lot cheaper than the German ones. Magpul’s new grip frame and safety are pretty nice. I highly recommend them. I think the Spuhr stock is pretty sweet. The handguard is another proprietary system so I could live without. The German A3 stock looks cool (just need some rope and a swamp ) but it sucks for actual shooting.
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Posted: 8/24/2020 7:55:00 AM EST
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To a FAL or an AR10
I never liked mine and ended up selling it. Main reason I bought it in the first place was I had a bunch of the $.99 mags. |
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Posted: 8/24/2020 7:56:22 AM EST
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A gas system and LRBHO would be a great start.
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Posted: 8/24/2020 8:34:07 AM EST
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An ejection port buffer will prevent your brass from getting mangled and will redirect its ejection pattern.
Edit: The above linked model will not work with your pic rail equipped rifle. That's a shame, because the one on my rifle works great. |
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Posted: 8/24/2020 8:40:23 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The German A3 stock looks cool (just need some rope and a swamp ) but it sucks for actual shooting.I have never fired a G3 with the A3, but I was told that it sucked. I agree it looks very cool, though. |
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Posted: 8/24/2020 8:44:29 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The factory slim handguards are pretty much useless, they've got no heat shield at all. With the modern correct-size barrels PTR is using, you could get a surplus German slim handguard as a stopgap. Wide handguards are better but pretty much unobtainable for the last 6-8 months. AimSports and Midwest both make fancier M-LOK handguards. The Aim version is about a 1/3 the price, and they've got keymod and 1913 flavors if you like those. Midwest looks nicer. Heavy buffer is a solid upgrade. PCS version is a lot cheaper than the German ones. Magpul's new grip frame and safety are pretty nice. I highly recommend them. I think the Spuhr stock is pretty sweet. The handguard is another proprietary system so I could live without. The German A3 stock looks cool (just need some rope and a swamp ) but it sucks for actual shooting.I don't mind shooting with the A3 stock but mine is hte 4 position stock with a better buffer. I love the heavy buffer on the fixed stock....it's like shooting a 93 not a 91. |
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Posted: 8/24/2020 8:50:51 AM EST
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Quote HistoryThe only reason to get that triangular handguard is for the light bipod. No bipod? Don't bother. BTW, the heavy bipod is nice. It mounts directly on the receiver and folds forward. HK scope mounting system is nice too. They were expensive (about $240 plus back in the early '80s). |
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Posted: 8/24/2020 8:52:09 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have never fired a G3 with the A3, but I was told that it sucked. I agree it looks very cool, though. Apart from weight increase, it's actually not bad (unless you're in freezing weather. Forget putting metal to the face). |
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Posted: 8/24/2020 8:55:05 AM EST
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I traded into a PTR 91 a couple years ago from a member here that has a Bill Springfield trigger which is a huge improvement. I did mess around trying to get mine run suppressed with the different locking pieces and didn't have much luck and lost interest.
With the Springfield locking trigger, factory bolt configuration, a B&T claw scope rail and a Burris XTR II 2.5-10 it shoots pretty well out to 500 yards which is the furthest I have tried it. If you can find MEN 147 gr ball, give it a shot. Mine shoots it well. Need to look in to a heavy buffer. |
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Posted: 8/24/2020 9:06:15 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The original German G3 slim line handguards have a heat shield....not the most effective but it is there. I don't mind shooting with the A3 stock but mine is hte 4 position stock with a better buffer. I love the heavy buffer on the fixed stock....it's like shooting a 93 not a 91. Yeah, I should be more explicit about the handguards. PTR's US-made handguards don't have a heatshield. Ever since their first ones in 2002-ish to today, they omit that. To be fair, the original PTR had a heavy barrel that would not accommodate the heat shield. I sacrificed a cheap surplus one 15 years ago attempting to make it work. The newer PTRs with the correct barrel profile will fit shielded surplus handguards. Currently $9 for a green one at RobertRTG.com. Not ideal, but better than the US-made plastik fantastik with no protection at all! Which buffer did you put in the A3 stock? I always meant to get one of the upgraded units from Springfield to try. Mine's a parked surplus unit, so should be "easier" (as HK parts go) to upgrade than the fancier commercial ones. |
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Posted: 8/24/2020 9:14:38 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A gas system and LRBHO would be a great start. Zing |
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Posted: 8/24/2020 11:52:57 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not helping.  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: What in the ass?  It's a Swedish AK4 copy. Correct stock, rail, and aimpoint. Rear sight removed since its unusable with a spuhr stock. Not helping. U mad, dutchman? 
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Posted: 8/24/2020 12:14:42 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When I was in the Danish army, 30-round mags for the G3 were the mythical grail that everyone wanted, but nobody had ever seen. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: One or two South Arfican 30rd mags....there out there. Heavy to patrol with, ok for a fire in place situation. just scored a couple.... When I was in the Danish army, 30-round mags for the G3 were the mythical grail that everyone wanted, but nobody had ever seen.   Attached FileGot this too...  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/24/2020 12:46:37 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What does an MSG90 trigger pack run? |
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Posted: 8/24/2020 12:51:32 PM EST
[#23]
DMR buffer. I like the recoil impulse much better now.
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Posted: 8/24/2020 12:57:37 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Look for a factory bipod as well. It is designed for the wide hand guard. Get a factory rubber mg buttpad for longer length of pull and a less sore shoulder if you shoot all day long. A heavy buffer is nice too. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If you are going to shoot it rapidly, the wide handguards are better than the thin. It heats up pretty quick Get a factory rubber mg buttpad for longer length of pull and a less sore shoulder if you shoot all day long. A heavy buffer is nice too. Huge diff to one configured this way vs stock. |
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Posted: 8/24/2020 1:00:50 PM EST
[#25]
No one said Fleming yet?
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Posted: 8/24/2020 1:01:50 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nailed it^ Huge diff to one configured this way vs stock. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: If you are going to shoot it rapidly, the wide handguards are better than the thin. It heats up pretty quick Get a factory rubber mg buttpad for longer length of pull and a less sore shoulder if you shoot all day long. A heavy buffer is nice too. Huge diff to one configured this way vs stock. |
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Posted: 8/24/2020 1:04:18 PM EST
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I put a rubberized charging handle and a #17 (I think?) locking piece in mine. That combined with the Griffin taper-lok comp make it much nicer to shoot. A recoil buffer would help even more.
Also, it’s rad to shoot suppressed. Do it now. |
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Posted: 8/24/2020 1:04:55 PM EST
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What is that on the back of the pistol grip? Does it make it CA compliant or something? It makes the rifle "featureless" so you can have a detachable magazine. Then folks are able to use lawfully owned hi caps as well. |
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Posted: 8/24/2020 1:10:02 PM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No one said Fleming yet?  |
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Posted: 8/24/2020 1:15:11 PM EST
[#30]
You already have an optic rail and a paddle mag release, so that's 90% of it.
I really liked the navy lower I had on mine, and collapsing/folding stock. |
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Posted: 8/24/2020 1:18:47 PM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: a suppressor. It throws the brass twice as far and recoil feels like it doubles (it doesn't but sure feels like it) Suppressors are hard on them unless you change to a 36* locking block. |
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Posted: 8/24/2020 1:20:55 PM EST
[#32]
Heavy buffer
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Posted: 8/24/2020 1:21:33 PM EST
[#33]
A trigger job from Williams Triggers. The difference was night and day.
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Posted: 8/24/2020 1:21:44 PM EST
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Shoot it first to see if you even like it. They're kind of an acquired taste.
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Posted: 8/24/2020 2:21:12 PM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Shoot it first to see if you even like it. They're kind of an acquired taste. 
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Posted: 8/24/2020 2:33:22 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Get a factory rubber mg buttpad for longer length of pull and a less sore shoulder if you shoot all day long. A la HK21... https://www.robertrtg.com/store/pc/HK21-RUBBER-BUTTPAD-FOR-G3-PTR-91-C308-p1863.htm |
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Posted: 8/24/2020 2:35:42 PM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Get a factory rubber mg buttpad for longer length of pull and a less sore shoulder if you shoot all day long. A la HK21... https://www.robertrtg.com/store/pc/HK21-RUBBER-BUTTPAD-FOR-G3-PTR-91-C308-p1863.htm And RTG Parts is GTG! |
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Posted: 8/24/2020 2:40:47 PM EST
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Quoted: If you can find an A3 retractable stock for $200-250 give or take, I'd get one. Might not be able to find one now, as prices are stupid for some reason on all things. Don't get suckered into paying $300-400+. Quoted: A3 stock certainly adds "the cool factor". Personally, I did not find the A3 comfortable to utilize for more than a limited round count of firing. The A3 stock is brutal on your shoulder. |
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Posted: 8/24/2020 2:42:45 PM EST
[#39]
A better chambering
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Posted: 8/24/2020 3:02:35 PM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, I should be more explicit about the handguards. PTR's US-made handguards don't have a heatshield. Ever since their first ones in 2002-ish to today, they omit that. To be fair, the original PTR had a heavy barrel that would not accommodate the heat shield. I sacrificed a cheap surplus one 15 years ago attempting to make it work. The newer PTRs with the correct barrel profile will fit shielded surplus handguards. Currently $9 for a green one at RobertRTG.com. Not ideal, but better than the US-made plastik fantastik with no protection at all! Which buffer did you put in the A3 stock? I always meant to get one of the upgraded units from Springfield to try. Mine's a parked surplus unit, so should be "easier" (as HK parts go) to upgrade than the fancier commercial ones. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The original German G3 slim line handguards have a heat shield....not the most effective but it is there. I don't mind shooting with the A3 stock but mine is hte 4 position stock with a better buffer. I love the heavy buffer on the fixed stock....it's like shooting a 93 not a 91. Yeah, I should be more explicit about the handguards. PTR's US-made handguards don't have a heatshield. Ever since their first ones in 2002-ish to today, they omit that. To be fair, the original PTR had a heavy barrel that would not accommodate the heat shield. I sacrificed a cheap surplus one 15 years ago attempting to make it work. The newer PTRs with the correct barrel profile will fit shielded surplus handguards. Currently $9 for a green one at RobertRTG.com. Not ideal, but better than the US-made plastik fantastik with no protection at all! Which buffer did you put in the A3 stock? I always meant to get one of the upgraded units from Springfield to try. Mine's a parked surplus unit, so should be "easier" (as HK parts go) to upgrade than the fancier commercial ones. My brutha!! I think my A3 has the Springfield buffer in it. I bought it in the EE with the buffer and 2 additional notches in the stock arms so it is now a 4 position stock. |
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Posted: 8/24/2020 3:54:31 PM EST
[#41]
You’re going to need a sling. The HK 3 point slings are obsolete.
BFG padded are my choice. Get some feeler gauges and a bunch of steel .308 and shoot it for a day. Then see what you need to change out for your preference. A LPVO is a good fit for the platform. Mine wears a Steiner 1-4x and it’s more than adequate out to the realistic range of the rifle. Willams screwed me on a trigger pack so can’t recommend him. RobertRTG has the best spare parts kits. |
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Posted: 8/24/2020 3:58:28 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted:  Quote HistoryQuoted: Sooooo beautiful!!  I would have been the coolest guy in the entire Danish army, if I had been able to get my hot little hands on those back in the 80s. I don't even know what that is. Some kind of space-age magic laser thing, with a battery in the grip? |
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Posted: 8/24/2020 4:07:48 PM EST
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Easy just buy mine from the EE that already has the upgrades you need and it has an extra 48 mags
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Posted: 8/24/2020 4:20:26 PM EST
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All I did to mine (Cetme) was add a carrying handle. It kinda sucks, so I dont use it, and it adds a tiny bit of weight to an already heavy bitch.
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Posted: 8/24/2020 4:21:56 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Excellent suggestion! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Extended cocking handle and feeler gauges. You can get that right now from RobertRTG (RTG parts) for a nickel under $45. One U.S. part. That piece is hard plastic. Not rubberized. I'd recommend picking up the associated pin and spring, also. Back when I was in that game, the only place you could pick that up was from hkspecialiststore. That is a business that almost never shows up in a search. You have to know to look. As noted below, that's the hk-21e handle. Actually, hk 21e-style handle. |
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Posted: 8/24/2020 4:23:36 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What does an MSG90 trigger pack run? Grand ish last I checked. |
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Posted: 8/24/2020 4:24:48 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have never fired a G3 with the A3, but I was told that it sucked. I agree it looks very cool, though. Only used one in Auto with A G3K. That wasn't particularly pleasant. But it was compact. |
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Posted: 8/24/2020 4:25:43 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sooooo beautiful!! I would have been the coolest guy in the entire Danish army, if I had been able to get my hot little hands on those back in the 80s. Those 30rnd mags are terrible. |
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Posted: 8/24/2020 4:26:09 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When I was in the Danish army, 30-round mags for the G3 were the mythical grail that everyone wanted, but nobody had ever seen. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: One or two South Arfican 30rd mags....there out there. Heavy to patrol with, ok for a fire in place situation. just scored a couple.... When I was in the Danish army, 30-round mags for the G3 were the mythical grail that everyone wanted, but nobody had ever seen. That's because HK never made 30 rounders. The South Africans did, while other examples were 20's that were chopped and welded to form an extended body. |
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Posted: 8/24/2020 4:26:38 PM EST
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Biggest improvement is a HD Buffer and trigger job.
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