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Posted: 12/14/2020 9:38:06 PM EDT
[#1]
Good snek!
No step snek! Pest control snek! |
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Posted: 12/14/2020 9:52:23 PM EDT
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It’s not a corn snake and it’s not a grey rat snake. It’s a young black rat snake. Black rats are typically grey when young and greys are typically light tan when young. Red and yellow rhyme hasn’t applied to many corals I’ve caught throughout the US and has applied to many non-venomous I’ve caught - you can’t trust that saying. Many species in the genus nerodia can display a triangular head and be mistaken for an agkistrodon. In general, a lot of those sayings or identification characteristics of venomous snakes are true, however identifying snake species well only comes with a whole bunch of experience and even the pros have a hard time now and again.
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Posted: 12/14/2020 9:53:39 PM EDT
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That's a garden hose. No need to worry, they are harmless.
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Posted: 12/14/2020 10:01:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @HeyCoach Did he get his dinner frog? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Harmless juvenile rat snake. Just like mine. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/399736/2D4C9A61-D7E1-4025-8C87-142903A73C99_jpe-1731289.JPG @HeyCoach Did he get his dinner frog? Probably, before it turned cold I didn’t see near as many tree frogs or skinks around the back porch. |
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Posted: 12/14/2020 10:01:54 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/14/2020 10:03:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks like a rat snake. Good snake. |
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Posted: 12/14/2020 10:05:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I sorta see Hershey Kisses, either juvenile Copperhead or Corn Snake? A copperhead is not climbing a brick wall. Rat snake. A good snek. |
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Posted: 12/14/2020 10:06:58 PM EDT
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A cute one!
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Posted: 12/14/2020 10:07:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So, not a corn snake? No Corn snake and rat snake are in the same family. |
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Posted: 12/14/2020 10:08:10 PM EDT
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Eastern Milk Snake
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Posted: 12/14/2020 10:08:26 PM EDT
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Yous fancypants. All of yous.
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Posted: 12/14/2020 10:18:24 PM EDT
[#12]
He is doing you a solid by checking out all those cracks for bugs.
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Posted: 12/14/2020 10:30:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A copperhead is not climbing a brick wall. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I sorta see Hershey Kisses, either juvenile Copperhead or Corn Snake? A copperhead is not climbing a brick wall. Why not? |
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Posted: 12/15/2020 4:27:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why not? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I sorta see Hershey Kisses, either juvenile Copperhead or Corn Snake? A copperhead is not climbing a brick wall. Why not? I guess we'll never know |
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Posted: 12/15/2020 5:18:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why not? Copperhead snakes cannot climb flat faced brick walls. Like all pit vipers they stay on the ground. Rat snakes and their kin the corn snake can because they often eat nested birds and eggs. |
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Posted: 12/15/2020 5:20:52 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/15/2020 5:23:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Copperhead snakes cannot climb flat faced brick walls. Like all pit vipers they stay on the ground. Rat snakes and their kin the corn snake can because they often eat nested birds and eggs. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Why not? Copperhead snakes cannot climb flat faced brick walls. Like all pit vipers they stay on the ground. Rat snakes and their kin the corn snake can because they often eat nested birds and eggs. Pit vipers climb very well, for a variety of reasons. Being opportunistic, they are also bird eaters. |
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Posted: 12/15/2020 5:26:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pit vipers climb very well, for a variety of reasons. Being opportunistic, they are also bird eaters. Please share a picture of a copperhead climbing a brick wall. Flat faced wall like OP posted. |
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Posted: 12/15/2020 5:28:45 PM EDT
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I've had this happen before
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Posted: 12/15/2020 5:31:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How do you know? I'd like to be able to tell them something other than "some guy on the internet said". Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It looks to me like a juvenile corn snake, definitely some type of rat snake and not venomous. 100% harmless. How do you know? I'd like to be able to tell them something other than "some guy on the internet said". "Some gun owner guy on the internet said", that will surely work 
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Posted: 12/15/2020 5:33:40 PM EDT
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Jackass snake?
Naw, you wouldn't have had to ask. 
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Posted: 12/15/2020 5:39:09 PM EDT
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Found a small starved Copperhead on my bedroom floor about 2am one morning. Got up to take a piss and noticed an odd shape against the light colored carpet. Turned on the light and it was a damned Copperhead. Didn't want to leave it to get something to kill it, and it be gone when I get back. So I looked around for something. Finally smashed its head good with a chair leg. Threw it out the back door.
Best we could figure, it was hidden in a potted plant that the wifey brought in from outside a few weeks back. 
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Posted: 12/15/2020 5:46:45 PM EDT
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Quote History |
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Posted: 12/15/2020 5:51:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It looks to me like a juvenile corn snake, definitely some type of rat snake and not venomous. 100% harmless. Not 100% harmless. If you eat it, and choke while doing so, you could die. Same as if it's undercooked and you get food poisoning. |
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Posted: 12/15/2020 5:52:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Please share a picture of a copperhead climbing a brick wall. Flat faced wall like OP posted. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Pit vipers climb very well, for a variety of reasons. Being opportunistic, they are also bird eaters. Please share a picture of a copperhead climbing a brick wall. Flat faced wall like OP posted. You stated, "Like all pit vipers they stay on the ground" which is absolutely false. Pit vipers climb very well, great swimmers too. |
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Posted: 12/15/2020 5:54:14 PM EDT
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Tarantula viper
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Posted: 12/15/2020 5:55:25 PM EDT
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It's not venomous. It's a good guy. Look at the shape of its head. It looks like a little rat snake
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Posted: 12/15/2020 5:55:29 PM EDT
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Looks like one I caught a few years ago. Great snakes but I have been bitten trying to pick them up.
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Posted: 12/15/2020 5:56:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s not a corn snake and it’s not a grey rat snake. It’s a young black rat snake. Black rats are typically grey when young and greys are typically light tan when young. Red and yellow rhyme hasn’t applied to many corals I’ve caught throughout the US and has applied to many non-venomous I’ve caught - you can’t trust that saying. Many species in the genus nerodia can display a triangular head and be mistaken for an agkistrodon. In general, a lot of those sayings or identification characteristics of venomous snakes are true, however identifying snake species well only comes with a whole bunch of experience and even the pros have a hard time now and again. Anywhere a North American coral could survive, an escaped, pet South American coral could survive-and most S.A. corals are colored red on black. If you find a red and black snake, be damn sure what it is before you pick it up. The exotics would be very rare, but remembering the possibility is a hell of a lot cheaper than treating a bite. |
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Posted: 12/15/2020 6:00:53 PM EDT
[#30]
harmless kind
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Posted: 12/15/2020 9:37:09 PM EDT
[#31]
 Copperheads are good tree-climbers. Wouldn't be surprised if they could climb brick walls. |
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Posted: 12/15/2020 10:12:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://cdn.protoolreviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/copperhead-snake-bites-lowes-customer.jpg Copperheads are good tree-climbers. Wouldn't be surprised if they could climb brick walls. Mmmmmmm....tasty cicada. |
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Posted: 12/15/2020 10:18:01 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/15/2020 10:33:47 PM EDT
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The White oak phase is a beautiful natural color variation of gray rat snake that occurs in various areas of the Florida panhandle. Unlike other Elaphe obsoleta subspecies, spiloides retains the blotched juvenile pattern and coloration throughout life. Compared with the typical gray rat snake the White oak phase is defined by a light overall look of light gray blotches on a silver, almost white background.
As you move west in the Florida panhandle, the rat snakes tend to have more elongated blotches and a darker mask pattern on the head. In some ways they look somewhat similar to the Texas rat snake (E. o. lindheimeri) that occurs further to the west. Many of these snakes are rather dark and unappealing, but we have managed to located a few that show the light White oak coloration. We have an impressive five and a half foot adult male from Escambia County that we sometimes call our "White oak Texas rat" because in head shape and pattern he looks a lot like lindheimeri, but with the classic Florida silver coloration. |
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Posted: 12/15/2020 10:37:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The White oak phase is a beautiful natural color variation of gray rat snake that occurs in various areas of the Florida panhandle. Unlike other Elaphe obsoleta subspecies, spiloides retains the blotched juvenile pattern and coloration throughout life. Compared with the typical gray rat snake the White oak phase is defined by a light overall look of light gray blotches on a silver, almost white background. As you move west in the Florida panhandle, the rat snakes tend to have more elongated blotches and a darker mask pattern on the head. In some ways they look somewhat similar to the Texas rat snake (E. o. lindheimeri) that occurs further to the west. Many of these snakes are rather dark and unappealing, but we have managed to located a few that show the light White oak coloration. We have an impressive five and a half foot adult male from Escambia County that we sometimes call our "White oak Texas rat" because in head shape and pattern he looks a lot like lindheimeri, but with the classic Florida silver coloration. We need a "Like" button. |
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Posted: 12/15/2020 10:37:46 PM EDT
[#36]
One with scales
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Posted: 12/15/2020 10:40:50 PM EDT
[#37]
Rat snake
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Posted: 12/15/2020 10:45:27 PM EDT
[#38]
Corn snake
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Posted: 12/15/2020 11:18:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Mmmmmmm....tasty cicada. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: https://cdn.protoolreviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/copperhead-snake-bites-lowes-customer.jpg Copperheads are good tree-climbers. Wouldn't be surprised if they could climb brick walls. Mmmmmmm....tasty cicada. Giant cicada! 
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Posted: 12/15/2020 11:22:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryFUUUUUCCCCCKKKKKKK a black widow took out a snake. |
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Posted: 12/15/2020 11:24:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How do you know? I'd like to be able to tell them something other than "some guy on the internet said". Jeeper is a snake SME. If he says then it is |
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Posted: 12/15/2020 11:24:56 PM EDT
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Non poisonous. Let him live.
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Posted: 12/15/2020 11:25:23 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/15/2020 11:37:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.arizonareptile.com/img/anerythristic_corn_snake_baby_l.jpg It's a harmless (and beneficial) corn snake. ^^ that |
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Posted: 12/16/2020 12:11:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Giant cicada! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: https://cdn.protoolreviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/copperhead-snake-bites-lowes-customer.jpg Copperheads are good tree-climbers. Wouldn't be surprised if they could climb brick walls. Mmmmmmm....tasty cicada. Giant cicada! Small copperhead? 
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Posted: 12/16/2020 12:30:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryEastern Garden Hose! |
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Posted: 12/16/2020 1:39:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @HeyCoach Did he get his dinner frog? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Harmless juvenile rat snake. Just like mine. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/399736/2D4C9A61-D7E1-4025-8C87-142903A73C99_jpe-1731289.JPG @HeyCoach Did he get his dinner frog? I caught a lot of hell from the wife because "I Let" the snake eat her toad. That sounded better before I typed it... Had a free range Bufo running around the back yard. Dogs would foam at the mouth after a taste. Then one day a garden snake had caught the toad by a hind leg. She suggested I relocate the toad. Instead I took pics every so often while the slow motion drama took place. Snake somehow opened it's jaws and swallowed the toad. Ironic that the next time I saw the snake it was in the front yard. Paladin |
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Posted: 12/16/2020 5:44:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I caught a lot of hell from the wife because "I Let" the snake eat her toad. That sounded better before I typed it... Had a free range Bufo running around the back yard. Dogs would foam at the mouth after a taste. Then one day a garden snake had caught the toad by a hind leg. She suggested I relocate the toad. Instead I took pics every so often while the slow motion drama took place. Snake somehow opened it's jaws and swallowed the toad. Ironic that the next time I saw the snake it was in the front yard. Paladin Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Harmless juvenile rat snake. Just like mine. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/399736/2D4C9A61-D7E1-4025-8C87-142903A73C99_jpe-1731289.JPG @HeyCoach Did he get his dinner frog? I caught a lot of hell from the wife because "I Let" the snake eat her toad. That sounded better before I typed it... Had a free range Bufo running around the back yard. Dogs would foam at the mouth after a taste. Then one day a garden snake had caught the toad by a hind leg. She suggested I relocate the toad. Instead I took pics every so often while the slow motion drama took place. Snake somehow opened it's jaws and swallowed the toad. Ironic that the next time I saw the snake it was in the front yard. Paladin Snakes actually unhinge their jaws to swallow prey, they can eat things considerably larger than one would think going by the size of their head. |
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Posted: 12/16/2020 5:51:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How do you know? I'd like to be able to tell them something other than "some guy on the internet said". North American venomous snakes generally do not climb vertical walls.( I have never seen one do this in almost 50 years of catching snakes) The markings are the markings of a juvenile rat snake. You have several species in Florida. Almost all rat snakes have the same colorations as juveniles. They typically will get their adult markings after about a year in the wild. |
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Posted: 12/16/2020 6:12:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks like a rat snake. |
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