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Posted: 9/26/2024 4:16:37 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Zardoz]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Switchback_Arms: I'm very interested in one of those, can't wait for the unsponsored reviews Fixt |
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Posted: 9/26/2024 7:54:16 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Canoeguy]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zardoz: Fixt Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zardoz: Originally Posted By Switchback_Arms: I'm very interested in one of those, can't wait for the unsponsored reviews Fixt Well, I can tell you reviews from the event won’t be sponsored though they did throw us a couple of sights to give away. But the thermal wasn’t part of that and it wasn’t to me personally. If they want to give me one of these they’re more than welcome to if they’re paying attention to this thread. . I’ll hold my breath in the meantime. |
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Posted: 9/26/2024 7:56:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Canoeguy: “Up to 10 hours of battery runtime for the thermal sensor and over 50,000 hours of runtime for your red dot gives users an optic that can keep up with the most demanding tasks.” “If thermal isn't needed for the task, simply flip down the front lens cap and use the DRS-TH just as you would any of our traditional red dot optics giving you the best of both worlds.” Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Canoeguy: Originally Posted By delemorte: How long does the battery last? “Up to 10 hours of battery runtime for the thermal sensor and over 50,000 hours of runtime for your red dot gives users an optic that can keep up with the most demanding tasks.” “If thermal isn't needed for the task, simply flip down the front lens cap and use the DRS-TH just as you would any of our traditional red dot optics giving you the best of both worlds.” I saw that it says that but how long does it actually last. For 1900 bucks I'm curious how that actually plays out. Certainly cool and for the package I'd consider it |
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Posted: 9/26/2024 10:08:03 AM EDT
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I can’t get the idea of one of these on an integral 22 for rodents out of my head. I think it would be a fun project.
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Posted: 9/26/2024 10:21:45 AM EDT
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OST
waiting for a handful of reviews... |
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Posted: 9/26/2024 10:43:59 AM EDT
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What ever happened to the Pro (higher rez) version that was supposed to come out?
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Posted: 9/26/2024 10:51:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NotIssued: (snip) Hopefully this spurs some local, on the board, companies to make a competitor. Cuz I'm not a huge Holosun fan, but this might make me. This - still trying to resist Chinesium optics/etc. We'll see what buyers/reviewers say on this one, though. |
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Posted: 9/26/2024 11:02:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By _Matt_: You can definitely get good low resolution thermal for less, but how this is implemented is very interesting www.amazon.com/dp/B0CX5HQ3RF Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By _Matt_: Originally Posted By NotIssued: Originally Posted By towerofpower94: The thing that makes me pause on this, and other thermal red dots like the Sig one, is that thermal is for detection and I2 or white light is for identification. A buddy in FL has bought and sold a few Sig thermal RDS thingies, and I goofed around with one a couple years back, and I just didn’t see the appeal. The low resolution and small FOV make me think swinging a gun around with this on top to detect is suboptimal. And once you detect something the low resolution is going to make shoot/no shoot tough. May as well use a legit 1x thermal scope for night time chicken defense….or not. I’m interested to see your take on it, OP. Low res is probably fine for most people. Let's say I put it on my HD gun. At 2am if there's a human shape, it shouldn't be there. If my kids are spending the night, if it's an adult human shape, it shouldn't be there. If I'm out at 5am walking to the deer stand it would be nice to see what rustle over yonder (I mean, I have a pvs-14, but you get my point). Sure you aren't capping pigs at 500 yards, but it's the wrong tool for the job. Hopefully this spurs some local, on the board, companies to make a competitor. Cuz I'm not a huge Holosun fan, but this might make me. You can definitely get good low resolution thermal for less, but how this is implemented is very interesting www.amazon.com/dp/B0CX5HQ3RF As an fyi.. Euro has the ts25-384 for $1199 currently. |
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USA
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Posted: 9/26/2024 11:08:09 AM EDT
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YAAAAAY🤗MERRY CHRISTMAS SELF🎄🎁
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Posted: 9/26/2024 11:10:07 AM EDT
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Wish they weren't Chinese. But they are making good products at good prices. Not just good but innovative.
While some "American" companies have been making the same exact product for over a decade with very little innovation and exorbitant pricing.
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Posted: 9/26/2024 11:21:47 AM EDT
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Is this the same unit that ar15.com social media created the controversy of whether he was flagging show attendees with a real or fake firearm?
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Posted: 9/26/2024 11:31:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CTM1: Didn't they announce two versions of the thermal unit at SHOT with one having a better thermal detector called the PRO? Could not find any info on it. I seem to recall the thread or video from shot on here showed 2 that looked the same but one was thermal and the other was NV. |
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USA
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Posted: 9/26/2024 11:37:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tangbang: OST waiting for a handful of reviews... |
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USA
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Posted: 9/26/2024 11:55:17 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Ronin72]
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They look very usable...
 Holosun Thermal & Night Vision Red Dots | Are they Game Changers? Plus you can use a magnifier with it...  Holosun RDS red dot thermal in front of magnifier shot show 2023 SUBSCRIBE for more. |
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Posted: 9/26/2024 12:08:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Glck1911]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Orion10182011: Wish they weren't Chinese. But they are making good products at good prices. Not just good but innovative. While some "American" companies have been making the same exact product for over a decade with very little innovation and exorbitant pricing. Yup. American companies are too busy blowing the government. Meanwhile, China is putting out a better product (for most) at a price that is much easier to justify. |
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Posted: 9/26/2024 12:23:53 PM EDT
[#16]
I kinda want one. Where's everyone buying them from?
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Posted: 9/26/2024 12:26:45 PM EDT
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In before the Ping Ping meme!
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OH, USA
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Posted: 9/26/2024 12:27:55 PM EDT
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Wish we could get a real LAM illuminator at a decent cost , bonus points if you can upgrade the diode to real output levels vs the night light regulated output levels.
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UT, USA
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Posted: 9/26/2024 12:35:20 PM EDT
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There's a reviewer on YouTube who points out that it's 256 imager is pretty low res and that there is no shortage of low end thermals with same imager for just under $1000 that perform just as well.
Of course they don't include a red dot, but you can always add one on an offset mount of you want. I don't own thermal as I don't see a use case for me. Just pointing out the review I watched. |
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Posted: 9/26/2024 12:36:58 PM EDT
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Definitely subscribed to this
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Posted: 9/26/2024 12:44:20 PM EDT
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The DPS thermal pistol dot is going to make a nice close range/detection sight mounted at 12 o'clock on an LPVO.
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Posted: 9/26/2024 12:46:12 PM EDT
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gay
dirty citizen did a good vid on it |
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Posted: 9/26/2024 12:47:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Canoeguy: If you saw the military firearms I sold to buy my NV and thermal you would weep it was worth every penny. I will sell everything I own down to a single pistol and AR before I get rid of my thermal. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Canoeguy: Originally Posted By GAcop: I hate being poor. If you saw the military firearms I sold to buy my NV and thermal you would weep it was worth every penny. I will sell everything I own down to a single pistol and AR before I get rid of my thermal. rule 1 see them first rule 0 dont be home |
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Posted: 9/26/2024 12:49:10 PM EDT
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Well sht this is cool.
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Posted: 9/26/2024 12:51:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Canoeguy: Maybe a 8.5”.300. Suppressed. Yeah that would be a good choice for me also |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 9/26/2024 12:51:51 PM EDT
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Do they explode when Chyna invades?
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Posted: 9/26/2024 12:54:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bkpkr: My 8.2” 300blk will probably end up with one of these for exactly that purpose. It currently has a Ta33/507. This seems awesome for the price at the ranges I would use it. Primary Arms Cyclops on mine |
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Posted: 9/26/2024 1:12:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Orion10182011]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By captexas: I seem to recall the thread or video from shot on here showed 2 that looked the same but one was thermal and the other was NV. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By captexas: Originally Posted By CTM1: Didn't they announce two versions of the thermal unit at SHOT with one having a better thermal detector called the PRO? Could not find any info on it. I seem to recall the thread or video from shot on here showed 2 that looked the same but one was thermal and the other was NV. There were three models. The Nigh Vision, Thermal and Thermal pro version. So far the Pro seems to be vaproware. |
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Posted: 9/26/2024 1:16:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: RDTCU]
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Have played with one in person.
Will own one eventually for sure, probably on a suppressed 300blk |
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Posted: 9/26/2024 1:18:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m200maker: Digital?… what’s the delay like for a moving object? Digital in the past has been garbage. I’m not bagging on Holosun I own quite a few. Very little lag in my limited experience, but i wasn't scoping a running hog at 200yards... |
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IL, USA
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Posted: 9/26/2024 2:00:48 PM EDT
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I'm amazed at the videos and how well it worked with a 3x.
I'm sure that at some point a V.2 version will be available that address a few of the bugs. Chyna or not, this is on my short list. Given Nolo's work and Judge McGlynn's most recent comment and case load, I'm guessing suppressors will be on the menu in Illinois in the next few years. Pair this up with a suppressed 300blk shortie, and the average civilian now has a boatload of capability. Guess I better go find a lanyard for my cheap Russian Gen 1 NV. |
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AL, USA
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Posted: 9/26/2024 2:04:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2JokersWild: Its long but he breaks it down pretty well. Worth it? Eh....Thats up to the user but I can definitely see strong use cases for it  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSa1xVMLw50Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2JokersWild: Originally Posted By Norsk: Bottom window is thermal? Top is a micro red dot? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSa1xVMLw50Thanks for that link. Interesting optic, but that reviewer is about the most obnoxious guntuber I've listened to. Like Yankee Marshall levels of obnoxious. |
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AL, USA
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Posted: 9/26/2024 2:07:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheAmaazingCarl: When you ignore patent law and only pay the tiniest fraction what others do for R&D,... you can make some pretty cheap and decent stuff. If the intruder cows or murders you with your own kitchen knife, he still won. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 9/26/2024 2:11:54 PM EDT
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That is an abomination! The image sucks too so good luck.
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Posted: 9/26/2024 2:15:31 PM EDT
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Cool. Hope they ship the AEMS Max soon.
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Posted: 9/26/2024 2:18:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CavScout: That is an abomination! The image sucks too so good luck. Is that your impression when you looked through it? I found it absolutely fine for the ranges I would utilize it at. |
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UT, USA
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Posted: 9/26/2024 2:19:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Just10mm]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CavScout: That is an abomination! The image sucks too so good luck. I dunno man, looks pretty good. https://www.reddit.com/r/HOLOSUN/s/20e6h0lI3w According to Holosun Josh there is no more Pro version. He said they upgraded the base model and could no longer justify the Pro, was how he described it. The early samples look good, I’ll be interested to see the feedback from this event. |
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Posted: 9/26/2024 2:19:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Ronin72]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By beitodesstrafe: In before the Ping Ping meme! Only if she has big tits 
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OH, USA
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Posted: 9/26/2024 2:21:43 PM EDT
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I have two of the night vision ones and am very happy! I'll try the thermal one.
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AL, USA
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Posted: 9/26/2024 2:22:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DubyaB: Well sht this is cool. It is pretty neat. |
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Posted: 9/26/2024 2:29:17 PM EDT
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My plan is to buy the NV version of this and use the Flir monocular as a spotter. I don’t have any NV currently, so it seems like a good combo for night hunting
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AL, USA
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Posted: 9/26/2024 2:32:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ogreman73: Do they explode when Chyna invades? My guess, is before the festivities, Pooh Bear Xi orders "the signal" sent out on 5G. Everything with chinesium chips inside receives this self destruct wipe and all the goodies quit working. Heavy Six is unaware. That night, Heavy only discovers his chinesium gear isn't working and dies of heart failure while attempting a 100 yard evasion run from the activated PLA sleeper teams.  |
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Posted: 9/26/2024 2:34:07 PM EDT
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Mine just came in. Cool as shit.
I own other higher resolution thermals but fuck…you’re getting creature ID with this out to 300 along with the ability to make hits out of a $1600 optic that’s also a day optic. I mean damn. It’s game changing to be sure. Works well with a magnifier too. |
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Posted: 9/26/2024 2:37:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Canoeguy: We will find out in a week. We will also see if it can defeat thermal netting. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Canoeguy: Originally Posted By Bravo_Six: Does anyone know the estimated detection range on a 50+ pound mammal? We will find out in a week. We will also see if it can defeat thermal netting. Nice! Thank you. |
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Posted: 9/26/2024 2:38:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ronin72: They look very usable... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMyf3IUkFE4Plus you can use a magnifier with it... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHoogPouqlgCan confirm it works great with magnifier. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 9/26/2024 2:38:49 PM EDT
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I need thermal for one of the ARs for coyote. Waiting on reviews. |
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Posted: 9/26/2024 2:48:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bizzarolibe: Mine just came in. Cool as shit. I own other higher resolution thermals but fuck…you’re getting creature ID with this out to 300 along with the ability to make hits out of a $1600 optic that’s also a day optic. I mean damn. It’s game changing to be sure. Works well with a magnifier too. Can you post a pic on an AR? I know it is chunky for just a red dot, but is stil pretty compact for all it does. |
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Posted: 9/26/2024 2:54:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By _Matt_: What are you putting it on? Looks like it might be good on a suppressed 9mm pcc Until the heat from the can washed out the thermal. |
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Posted: 9/26/2024 3:11:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bizzarolibe: Mine just came in. Cool as shit. I own other higher resolution thermals but fuck…you’re getting creature ID with this out to 300 along with the ability to make hits out of a $1600 optic that’s also a day optic. I mean damn. It’s game changing to be sure. Works well with a magnifier too. What do you mean by "creature ID?" What conditions? Is it "Hey I see something out there"? "Hey there's a person out there"? or "Hey I can tell those are hogs and not deer"? How experienced are you? I only ask because telling the difference between animals at that distance can be pretty difficult for a lot of people even with higher res units. Just trying to get an understanding of how much of your impression is the unit vs you just knowing what you are looking at. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 9/26/2024 3:13:55 PM EDT
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I can get these like $600 under MSRP with my dealer pricing.
Hmmm |
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