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7/14/2026 9:42:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: pilotshark][Edited] [#1]
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Originally Posted By DK-Prof:


Thank you.

You can see the "new" plan in the background of this photo.  Toyota Land Cruiser.  We wanted something for serious off-roading, and we're going to get a beater truck (like an old Taco or Tundra) to haul around wet scuba gear, kayaks, photo equipment, etc.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/1715/PXL_20260711_191016749-3794438.jpg

While there are awesome roads snaking up and down some of the volcanoes, they always have either slow locals or slow tourist on them, so owning a car like that seems to serve little purpose other than showing off.  Plus, we're moving into our twilight years, so a truck is much easier to get in and out of.

Also, once I arrive in Hawaii, the entire reason for owning the 911 in the first place will have disappeared, and so I really don't need it.  Selling it is a happy occasion forme, not a sad one.  

... plus, it will help pay for the pool (or at least the infinity edge and the spa) for the insanely expensive (for us) house we are planning to build!
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Color me envious. My best wishes my man!
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7/14/2026 10:39:37 PM EDT
[#2]
I love that yellow. I think all sports cars should be some outlandishly bright color.

(He says, owning a black Cayman. )
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7/15/2026 12:57:13 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By coreseller:



Very Nice!!  Just can't bring myself to drop that kind of coin but Congrats!!!!
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Used helps lol this cost the first owner $6.15/mile in depreciation.  WHEW!

Pic thread, color hits hard today.

7/15/2026 1:07:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By whiplash10:


Used helps lol this cost the first owner $6.15/mile in depreciation.  WHEW!

Pic thread, color hits hard today.
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Originally Posted By whiplash10:
Originally Posted By coreseller:



Very Nice!!  Just can't bring myself to drop that kind of coin but Congrats!!!!


Used helps lol this cost the first owner $6.15/mile in depreciation.  WHEW!

Pic thread, color hits hard today.
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He was talking about the AMG SUV.
7/15/2026 1:13:01 PM EDT
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Geeze I needed a warning before that.
7/15/2026 10:28:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: HRJ][Edited] [#6]
I can’t believe I waited so long to get a Quickjack. Fucking fantastic…and only like 2K.

Low and high ranges

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7/16/2026 10:01:54 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Mblades:


He was talking about the AMG SUV.
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Yeah I’m tracking, my reply was talking about the AMG.  That’s why I said I bought it (the AMG) used and let the original owner take the hit.
7/16/2026 10:02:35 AM EDT
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So convenient! And it folds up and just hangs on the wall. One of the best inventions ever.
7/16/2026 8:25:55 PM EDT
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I have the OG wheels from my GT3 on the rack so I decided to try them out on the Turbo. They look pretty good. I’d rather use these for road trips because it’s easier to pack the HyTorc tool than a breaker bar and torque wrench. And the HyTorc doesn’t work with the black HREs. Spokes are too small. (Sammich maker wasn’t needed for sammiches so she was pressed into brake pedal duty)

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Problem is the fronts sit too far in and look weird.

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Turns out the GT3 rears fit the Turbo perfect but the GT3RS fronts are needed because the GT3 front offsets won’t match. Now I have to find two silver standard 991.2 GT3RS wheels somewhere.
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7/17/2026 7:46:03 PM EDT
[#10]
When your girlfriend is tired of sitting in the passenger seat and finally gets her own Cayman 4.0 GTS, you do a double date in the mountains.

There are many like it, but this one is mine.
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7/17/2026 8:18:24 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ColdboreDreamer:
When your girlfriend is tired of sitting in the passenger seat and finally gets her own Cayman 4.0 GTS, you do a double date in the mountains.

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That is pretty cool!

I wish my wife would get one as well. She likes driving mine but hates the attention.
7/17/2026 9:00:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ColdboreDreamer:
When your girlfriend is tired of sitting in the passenger seat and finally gets her own Cayman 4.0 GTS, you do a double date in the mountains.

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That’s awesome
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7/21/2026 2:57:14 PM EDT
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7/21/2026 10:18:07 PM EDT
[#14]
Yay!
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7/21/2026 10:37:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 63SWC][Edited] [#15]
Shifter bushing replacement time for Gmund in prep for Luftgekuhlt 12.
Anyone interested in Pcars or who just enjoys drinking beer and viewing cars in a neat setting are encouraged to attend (Trilith Town, just south of ATL).







7/22/2026 2:02:33 AM EDT
[#16]
1st gas stop after I picked it up.



I should have grabbed a pic when I pulled into the motel tonight. It’s completely covered in bug splatter. Made 700 miles today. I’ve got another 1400 to get to our home in Missouri then about 500 next week to get it to our place in Ohio. So far it’s been doing great.
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7/22/2026 2:06:56 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By RobertL:
1st gas stop after I picked it up.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/67156/IMG_2850-3799147.jpg

I should have grabbed a pic when I pulled into the motel tonight. It’s completely covered in bug splatter. Made 700 miles today. I’ve got another 1400 to get to our home in Missouri then about 500 next week to get it to our place in Ohio. So far it’s been doing great.
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Niiice!
7/22/2026 2:22:37 AM EDT
[#18]
You know, those Turbo S cabs are perfect for dogs


7/22/2026 9:10:32 AM EDT
[#19]
Butte, Montana this morning 1400 miles to go

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7/22/2026 9:49:58 AM EDT
[Last Edit: maslin02][Edited] [#20]
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Originally Posted By RobertL:
Butte, Montana this morning 1400 miles to go

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I’m sorry you had to see Butte. Stop at Florence Coffee, they’re good people.


Borrowed this for a few days and spent every minute wishing it had a manual. 2020 Carrera S in silver.

7/22/2026 11:29:18 AM EDT
[Last Edit: pilotshark][Edited] [#21]
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Originally Posted By maslin02:



I’m sorry you had to see Butte. Stop at Florence Coffee, they’re good people.


Borrowed this for a few days and spent every minute wishing it had a manual. 2020 Carrera S in silver.

https://i.imgur.com/RlRIrFy_d.webp?maxwidth=1520&fidelity=grand
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I thought everyone loved PDK. I purposely sought out a manual in my Cayman and don't care if it is slower
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7/22/2026 7:34:08 PM EDT
[#22]
I like Butt….er, Butte. Cool place.
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7/22/2026 11:37:34 PM EDT
[#23]
This thing will definitely get down the road. I’ve run right at 1700 miles since I picked it up yesterday morning. The trip computer says I’ve averaged 71 mph since leaving.

I’ve got about 450 left for tomorrow but that’s Iowa and Missouri so the speed limits and the average traffic speeds will be lower.
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7/23/2026 8:56:32 AM EDT
[#24]
How does the car feel? Everything as you expected/hoped?
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7/23/2026 9:06:36 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By HRJ:
How does the car feel? Everything as you expected/hoped?
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So far, so good. The car drives wonderfully. There are a few cosmetic items I will address and then it should just be routine maintenance for a Porsche of this age.

One of the biggest concerns with this model is bore scoring, but the car exhibits no signs of it whatsoever and has not burned one drop of oil in 1700 hard miles. I watched startup videos of the car before purchase, but I did not have it scoped. I was a little leery of spending several hundred dollars to have it scoped with a mechanic of the Sellers choice and thought with the mileage and the clean startup videos and clean tailpipes that the car was probably fine. They exhibit some pretty obvious signs when they have bore scoring and this car did not show any of them.

All of the miles I’ve put on it without any oil consumption pretty much confirm that for me. I really don’t think I will have my Porsche guy do a bore scope either.
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7/23/2026 10:10:10 AM EDT
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Quickjack has been a game changer for me. Makes working on my fun car sooooo easy.

I did leave it up, no wheels Sunday night. I didn’t sleep.  

It all worked out in the end though, no issues. (I left it in the highest position, but on the metal stop, not resting on hydraulic pressure)


I’m thinking that in a few years, I trade up on my track car and jump on a 911 GT4R.  Crazy, I know but man it’s gonna be so sweet.  Stupid money to spend but you can’t take it with you.
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7/23/2026 4:51:58 PM EDT
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@HRJ

Do you just park over it when you're not using it?  I have a two post lift at our home in Missouri but the 996 is going to live in Ohio and the garage there is tiny. If I had a QuickJack for Ohio, it would have to remain in the parking spot for the car.
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7/23/2026 5:30:20 PM EDT
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I got the 6000TL bundle and it came with wall hangers. I’ve yet to find a place for them but I should have that figured out and installed this weekend.

Some images I found out in internetworld.

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7/27/2026 5:55:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Rigley][Edited] [#29]
As someone that works on them for a living and keep any eye on the market, this is the time to buy a longhood pre-74 car.

For the longest time longhood cars got crazy money compared to everything else. Especially if it's an S.

Now? I've been seeing so many sold for considerably less than just 5 years ago.

Same with 356, the market is super soft.

The hot cars right now is the SC/3.2/964/993.

Think it's like everything, people can't afford to spend 100k+ on a nice early E or S so they buy a 911SC or a 912 because they're a steal compared early 911 prices. Now you see early 912s go for 60k+ and SC's easily doing 50k+

Friend of mine had a 97 993 4S and was hoping to get 145k. He ended up getting close to 200k.

Another friend has a 67 911S that he could have easily sold for 200k just 10 years ago. Now? 100k maybe.

In my opinion it's that a lot of the older generation is passing away and the Porsche air cooled buyers are younger and younger.

They want the 80's/90's 911 from their childhood that they lusted over. The car on their bedroom wall or action movie growing up.

That and the fact the people that actually know how to properly tune carbs and MFI is also becoming more and more rare. There is only a handful of people in the US that will even touch a Bosch MFI Porsche pump even though it's basically a diesel pump.

If anyone wants help or has questions about the early cars, I'm happy to help.

Like I said, I'm around them all day. I know how much stuff costs, availablity, trouble areas, and what cars you need to walk away from.

If you come across an interesting car, let me know and I'll do my best to help or point you in a different direction.

I'll be on instagram and see people just blowing their loads over rusty 911SCs like it's some potential amazing project. They don't realize that if you're seeing massive exterior rust on a galvanized era 911, what you can't see is going to be worse. And quality body shop work is so expensive right now. You're easily 50k+ in the hole the moment you buy that "bargain." And that's not including engine work, fuel system, brakes, suspension, etc..

I personally hate fucks like Dodi and so many others just buying cars and flipping them. That's killing the market too.

Every other day I get a phone call at work asking

"Know of any air cooled cars for sale?"

Me = "Sure, what are you looking for? Longhood, G-body, Targa/sunroof/slick top?"

Them = "Just any of them."

(which I know is someone just trying to buy anything so they can flip it)

Me = "Nope, because the flippers are destroying the market and I don't want to contribute to the bullshit."

Them = "Uhhh okay"
7/27/2026 8:08:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: DK-Prof][Edited] [#30]
Got it up on a lift today, so my guy could take a bunch of photos from underneath.  I think everything should be in place now, so it can be listed on BaT soon.

Honestly, for a car that's been driven about five times a week* for the past seven years, it looks pretty damn nice ... in my amateur opinion.

(with the caveat that if it was snowing, or there was salt on the roads, I'd leave it at home and take my Honda Pilot instead)







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7/28/2026 9:17:29 AM EDT
[#31]
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Originally Posted By RobertL:
Butte, Montana this morning 1400 miles to go

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/67156/IMG_2858-3799215.jpg
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Hell yeah and a 2-liner.  OG Pelagos there!
7/28/2026 2:00:37 PM EDT
[#32]
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Originally Posted By Rigley:
As someone that works on them for a living and keep any eye on the market, this is the time to buy a longhood pre-74 car.

For the longest time longhood cars got crazy money compared to everything else. Especially if it's an S.

Now? I've been seeing so many sold for considerably less than just 5 years ago.

Same with 356, the market is super soft.

The hot cars right now is the SC/3.2/964/993.

Think it's like everything, people can't afford to spend 100k+ on a nice early E or S so they buy a 911SC or a 912 because they're a steal compared early 911 prices. Now you see early 912s go for 60k+ and SC's easily doing 50k+

Friend of mine had a 97 993 4S and was hoping to get 145k. He ended up getting close to 200k.

Another friend has a 67 911S that he could have easily sold for 200k just 10 years ago. Now? 100k maybe.

In my opinion it's that a lot of the older generation is passing away and the Porsche air cooled buyers are younger and younger.

They want the 80's/90's 911 from their childhood that they lusted over. The car on their bedroom wall or action movie growing up.

That and the fact the people that actually know how to properly tune carbs and MFI is also becoming more and more rare. There is only a handful of people in the US that will even touch a Bosch MFI Porsche pump even though it's basically a diesel pump.

If anyone wants help or has questions about the early cars, I'm happy to help.

Like I said, I'm around them all day. I know how much stuff costs, availablity, trouble areas, and what cars you need to walk away from.

If you come across an interesting car, let me know and I'll do my best to help or point you in a different direction.

I'll be on instagram and see people just blowing their loads over rusty 911SCs like it's some potential amazing project. They don't realize that if you're seeing massive exterior rust on a galvanized era 911, what you can't see is going to be worse. And quality body shop work is so expensive right now. You're easily 50k+ in the hole the moment you buy that "bargain." And that's not including engine work, fuel system, brakes, suspension, etc..

I personally hate fucks like Dodi and so many others just buying cars and flipping them. That's killing the market too.

Every other day I get a phone call at work asking

"Know of any air cooled cars for sale?"

Me = "Sure, what are you looking for? Longhood, G-body, Targa/sunroof/slick top?"

Them = "Just any of them."

(which I know is someone just trying to buy anything so they can flip it)

Me = "Nope, because the flippers are destroying the market and I don't want to contribute to the bullshit."

Them = "Uhhh okay"
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I would love a metallic green ‘72. It was the first car I drove, sitting in my dad’s lap. He sold it in the late 70s and doesn’t have a VIN so I’ll never find it. But one like it would be so cool. We went everywhere together in that thing.
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7/28/2026 2:40:40 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By RobertL:

@HRJ

Do you just park over it when you're not using it?  I have a two post lift at our home in Missouri but the 996 is going to live in Ohio and the garage there is tiny. If I had a QuickJack for Ohio, it would have to remain in the parking spot for the car.
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As HRJ showed they do make wall hangers for the quick Jack but it’s a lot easier to push them together and park over the top of them.  The hydraulic pump unit and hoses have quick disconnects so they are stored on a shelf.  

For basic stuff like oil changes you don’t even need to lift the car.  I back it to the edge of the garage which gets another inch or two and it’s easy to slip the oil pan under and reach the drain plug.

If you want to try an inexpensive loud exhaust check out the muffler bypass pipes on Amazon for ~$120 or so.  They look identical to the $800 Fabspeed version and are easy to change out.  You gotta take off the rear wheel to drop the muffler and then it’s three bolts and the clamp and the muffler is out.  It’s a fairly aggressive sound but the cat keeps it bearable compared to my other 911 that is no cats, no muffler but sounds insanely awesome loud.
7/28/2026 2:44:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Rigley:
As someone that works on them for a living and keep any eye on the market, this is the time to buy a longhood pre-74 car.

For the longest time longhood cars got crazy money compared to everything else. Especially if it's an S.

Now? I've been seeing so many sold for considerably less than just 5 years ago.

Same with 356, the market is super soft.

The hot cars right now is the SC/3.2/964/993.

Think it's like everything, people can't afford to spend 100k+ on a nice early E or S so they buy a 911SC or a 912 because they're a steal compared early 911 prices. Now you see early 912s go for 60k+ and SC's easily doing 50k+

Friend of mine had a 97 993 4S and was hoping to get 145k. He ended up getting close to 200k.

Another friend has a 67 911S that he could have easily sold for 200k just 10 years ago. Now? 100k maybe.

In my opinion it's that a lot of the older generation is passing away and the Porsche air cooled buyers are younger and younger.

They want the 80's/90's 911 from their childhood that they lusted over. The car on their bedroom wall or action movie growing up.

That and the fact the people that actually know how to properly tune carbs and MFI is also becoming more and more rare. There is only a handful of people in the US that will even touch a Bosch MFI Porsche pump even though it's basically a diesel pump.

If anyone wants help or has questions about the early cars, I'm happy to help.

Like I said, I'm around them all day. I know how much stuff costs, availablity, trouble areas, and what cars you need to walk away from.

If you come across an interesting car, let me know and I'll do my best to help or point you in a different direction.

I'll be on instagram and see people just blowing their loads over rusty 911SCs like it's some potential amazing project. They don't realize that if you're seeing massive exterior rust on a galvanized era 911, what you can't see is going to be worse. And quality body shop work is so expensive right now. You're easily 50k+ in the hole the moment you buy that "bargain." And that's not including engine work, fuel system, brakes, suspension, etc..

I personally hate fucks like Dodi and so many others just buying cars and flipping them. That's killing the market too.

Every other day I get a phone call at work asking

"Know of any air cooled cars for sale?"

Me = "Sure, what are you looking for? Longhood, G-body, Targa/sunroof/slick top?"

Them = "Just any of them."

(which I know is someone just trying to buy anything so they can flip it)

Me = "Nope, because the flippers are destroying the market and I don't want to contribute to the bullshit."

Them = "Uhhh okay"
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Where in the country?  I have a pretty good mechanic but he is older and semi retired.  I do a lot of work myself but am occasionally nervous about getting in over my head.

I lucked into my SC for what I now understand to be well below current market prices.
7/28/2026 2:49:30 PM EDT
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I would love a metallic green ‘72. It was the first car I drove, sitting in my dad’s lap. He sold it in the late 70s and doesn’t have a VIN so I’ll never find it. But one like it would be so cool. We went everywhere together in that thing.
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Originally Posted By HRJ:
Originally Posted By Rigley:
As someone that works on them for a living and keep any eye on the market, this is the time to buy a longhood pre-74 car.

For the longest time longhood cars got crazy money compared to everything else. Especially if it's an S.

Now? I've been seeing so many sold for considerably less than just 5 years ago.

Same with 356, the market is super soft.

The hot cars right now is the SC/3.2/964/993.

Think it's like everything, people can't afford to spend 100k+ on a nice early E or S so they buy a 911SC or a 912 because they're a steal compared early 911 prices. Now you see early 912s go for 60k+ and SC's easily doing 50k+

Friend of mine had a 97 993 4S and was hoping to get 145k. He ended up getting close to 200k.

Another friend has a 67 911S that he could have easily sold for 200k just 10 years ago. Now? 100k maybe.

In my opinion it's that a lot of the older generation is passing away and the Porsche air cooled buyers are younger and younger.

They want the 80's/90's 911 from their childhood that they lusted over. The car on their bedroom wall or action movie growing up.

That and the fact the people that actually know how to properly tune carbs and MFI is also becoming more and more rare. There is only a handful of people in the US that will even touch a Bosch MFI Porsche pump even though it's basically a diesel pump.

If anyone wants help or has questions about the early cars, I'm happy to help.

Like I said, I'm around them all day. I know how much stuff costs, availablity, trouble areas, and what cars you need to walk away from.

If you come across an interesting car, let me know and I'll do my best to help or point you in a different direction.

I'll be on instagram and see people just blowing their loads over rusty 911SCs like it's some potential amazing project. They don't realize that if you're seeing massive exterior rust on a galvanized era 911, what you can't see is going to be worse. And quality body shop work is so expensive right now. You're easily 50k+ in the hole the moment you buy that "bargain." And that's not including engine work, fuel system, brakes, suspension, etc..

I personally hate fucks like Dodi and so many others just buying cars and flipping them. That's killing the market too.

Every other day I get a phone call at work asking

"Know of any air cooled cars for sale?"

Me = "Sure, what are you looking for? Longhood, G-body, Targa/sunroof/slick top?"

Them = "Just any of them."

(which I know is someone just trying to buy anything so they can flip it)

Me = "Nope, because the flippers are destroying the market and I don't want to contribute to the bullshit."

Them = "Uhhh okay"


I would love a metallic green ‘72. It was the first car I drove, sitting in my dad’s lap. He sold it in the late 70s and doesn’t have a VIN so I’ll never find it. But one like it would be so cool. We went everywhere together in that thing.


You have 2 strikes against you when it comes pricing.

The 72 is the one year only with the external oil tank fill on the rear fender. So they tend to be more desirable.

Plus the 72 is the first year of each model (T, E, and S) coming standard with mechanical fuel injection. From the 69-71, the long wheelbase T's had carburetors and only the E and S had MFi.

That and the fact it's a cooler color can make the prices jump.

Do you remember any details? Targa, coupe, sunroof? Was it a T, E, or S?

You can also go on Bring-A-Trailer and do searches for 1972 longhood.

They archive all of the past sales and the listings themselves will often have history and details (like the original color if it was repainted, pictures of service history invoices, etc..)
7/28/2026 2:52:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Boregonian:


Where in the country?  I have a pretty good mechanic but he is older and semi retired.  I do a lot of work myself but am occasionally nervous about getting in over my head.

I lucked into my SC for what I now understand to be well below current market prices.
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Originally Posted By Boregonian:
Originally Posted By Rigley:
As someone that works on them for a living and keep any eye on the market, this is the time to buy a longhood pre-74 car.

For the longest time longhood cars got crazy money compared to everything else. Especially if it's an S.

Now? I've been seeing so many sold for considerably less than just 5 years ago.

Same with 356, the market is super soft.

The hot cars right now is the SC/3.2/964/993.

Think it's like everything, people can't afford to spend 100k+ on a nice early E or S so they buy a 911SC or a 912 because they're a steal compared early 911 prices. Now you see early 912s go for 60k+ and SC's easily doing 50k+

Friend of mine had a 97 993 4S and was hoping to get 145k. He ended up getting close to 200k.

Another friend has a 67 911S that he could have easily sold for 200k just 10 years ago. Now? 100k maybe.

In my opinion it's that a lot of the older generation is passing away and the Porsche air cooled buyers are younger and younger.

They want the 80's/90's 911 from their childhood that they lusted over. The car on their bedroom wall or action movie growing up.

That and the fact the people that actually know how to properly tune carbs and MFI is also becoming more and more rare. There is only a handful of people in the US that will even touch a Bosch MFI Porsche pump even though it's basically a diesel pump.

If anyone wants help or has questions about the early cars, I'm happy to help.

Like I said, I'm around them all day. I know how much stuff costs, availablity, trouble areas, and what cars you need to walk away from.

If you come across an interesting car, let me know and I'll do my best to help or point you in a different direction.

I'll be on instagram and see people just blowing their loads over rusty 911SCs like it's some potential amazing project. They don't realize that if you're seeing massive exterior rust on a galvanized era 911, what you can't see is going to be worse. And quality body shop work is so expensive right now. You're easily 50k+ in the hole the moment you buy that "bargain." And that's not including engine work, fuel system, brakes, suspension, etc..

I personally hate fucks like Dodi and so many others just buying cars and flipping them. That's killing the market too.

Every other day I get a phone call at work asking

"Know of any air cooled cars for sale?"

Me = "Sure, what are you looking for? Longhood, G-body, Targa/sunroof/slick top?"

Them = "Just any of them."

(which I know is someone just trying to buy anything so they can flip it)

Me = "Nope, because the flippers are destroying the market and I don't want to contribute to the bullshit."

Them = "Uhhh okay"


Where in the country?  I have a pretty good mechanic but he is older and semi retired.  I do a lot of work myself but am occasionally nervous about getting in over my head.

I lucked into my SC for what I now understand to be well below current market prices.


Just sent you a private message.
7/28/2026 8:48:59 PM EDT
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You have 2 strikes against you when it comes pricing.

The 72 is the one year only with the external oil tank fill on the rear fender. So they tend to be more desirable.

Plus the 72 is the first year of each model (T, E, and S) coming standard with mechanical fuel injection. From the 69-71, the long wheelbase T's had carburetors and only the E and S had MFi.

That and the fact it's a cooler color can make the prices jump.

Do you remember any details? Targa, coupe, sunroof? Was it a T, E, or S?

You can also go on Bring-A-Trailer and do searches for 1972 longhood.

They archive all of the past sales and the listings themselves will often have history and details (like the original color if it was repainted, pictures of service history invoices, etc..)
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As someone that works on them for a living and keep any eye on the market, this is the time to buy a longhood pre-74 car.

For the longest time longhood cars got crazy money compared to everything else. Especially if it's an S.

Now? I've been seeing so many sold for considerably less than just 5 years ago.

Same with 356, the market is super soft.

The hot cars right now is the SC/3.2/964/993.

Think it's like everything, people can't afford to spend 100k+ on a nice early E or S so they buy a 911SC or a 912 because they're a steal compared early 911 prices. Now you see early 912s go for 60k+ and SC's easily doing 50k+

Friend of mine had a 97 993 4S and was hoping to get 145k. He ended up getting close to 200k.

Another friend has a 67 911S that he could have easily sold for 200k just 10 years ago. Now? 100k maybe.

In my opinion it's that a lot of the older generation is passing away and the Porsche air cooled buyers are younger and younger.

They want the 80's/90's 911 from their childhood that they lusted over. The car on their bedroom wall or action movie growing up.

That and the fact the people that actually know how to properly tune carbs and MFI is also becoming more and more rare. There is only a handful of people in the US that will even touch a Bosch MFI Porsche pump even though it's basically a diesel pump.

If anyone wants help or has questions about the early cars, I'm happy to help.

Like I said, I'm around them all day. I know how much stuff costs, availablity, trouble areas, and what cars you need to walk away from.

If you come across an interesting car, let me know and I'll do my best to help or point you in a different direction.

I'll be on instagram and see people just blowing their loads over rusty 911SCs like it's some potential amazing project. They don't realize that if you're seeing massive exterior rust on a galvanized era 911, what you can't see is going to be worse. And quality body shop work is so expensive right now. You're easily 50k+ in the hole the moment you buy that "bargain." And that's not including engine work, fuel system, brakes, suspension, etc..

I personally hate fucks like Dodi and so many others just buying cars and flipping them. That's killing the market too.

Every other day I get a phone call at work asking

"Know of any air cooled cars for sale?"

Me = "Sure, what are you looking for? Longhood, G-body, Targa/sunroof/slick top?"

Them = "Just any of them."

(which I know is someone just trying to buy anything so they can flip it)

Me = "Nope, because the flippers are destroying the market and I don't want to contribute to the bullshit."

Them = "Uhhh okay"


I would love a metallic green ‘72. It was the first car I drove, sitting in my dad’s lap. He sold it in the late 70s and doesn’t have a VIN so I’ll never find it. But one like it would be so cool. We went everywhere together in that thing.


You have 2 strikes against you when it comes pricing.

The 72 is the one year only with the external oil tank fill on the rear fender. So they tend to be more desirable.

Plus the 72 is the first year of each model (T, E, and S) coming standard with mechanical fuel injection. From the 69-71, the long wheelbase T's had carburetors and only the E and S had MFi.

That and the fact it's a cooler color can make the prices jump.

Do you remember any details? Targa, coupe, sunroof? Was it a T, E, or S?

You can also go on Bring-A-Trailer and do searches for 1972 longhood.

They archive all of the past sales and the listings themselves will often have history and details (like the original color if it was repainted, pictures of service history invoices, etc..)

I don’t remember T, E or S. Too young and dad is 93. He laughed when I asked him. I don’t think it was a sunroof car, definitely not a Targa. I remember it had Fuchs. I think they were all black with polished lip but I haven’t seen a picture of a long hood that had Fuchs that way, only with polished “spokes” with black behind. Maybe I’m remembering wrong..

He bought it in ‘73 as a one year old used car.
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7/28/2026 9:06:54 PM EDT
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As HRJ showed they do make wall hangers for the quick Jack but it’s a lot easier to push them together and park over the top of them.  The hydraulic pump unit and hoses have quick disconnects so they are stored on a shelf.  

For basic stuff like oil changes you don’t even need to lift the car.  I back it to the edge of the garage which gets another inch or two and it’s easy to slip the oil pan under and reach the drain plug.

If you want to try an inexpensive loud exhaust check out the muffler bypass pipes on Amazon for ~$120 or so.  They look identical to the $800 Fabspeed version and are easy to change out.  You gotta take off the rear wheel to drop the muffler and then it’s three bolts and the clamp and the muffler is out.  It’s a fairly aggressive sound but the cat keeps it bearable compared to my other 911 that is no cats, no muffler but sounds insanely awesome loud.
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Thanks, I didn't think about hanging them.
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7/28/2026 9:10:46 PM EDT
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Hell yeah and a 2-liner.  OG Pelagos there!
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Butte, Montana this morning 1400 miles to go

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Hell yeah and a 2-liner.  OG Pelagos there!


To me, the OG Pelagos and the 996 sit in very similar niches in their respective markets. It's one of the reasons I chose the 2-Liner for the trip.
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7/28/2026 11:03:28 PM EDT
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I thought everyone loved PDK. I purposely sought out a manual in my Cayman and don't care if it is slower
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I liked it for what it is, I'm used to the AMG DCT offerings.

Just felt like it needed to be a manual. I don't get to drive very many 911's these days (no Porsche dealer in town = no Porsche trade-ins), but they're all automatics. A buddy had an old SC that I always enjoyed, and a client in Montana had a Renntech-ed 996 Turbo in the shop pretty frequently. Having a manual transmission always felt like part of the appeal.
7/29/2026 11:06:40 AM EDT
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I liked it for what it is, I'm used to the AMG DCT offerings.

Just felt like it needed to be a manual. I don't get to drive very many 911's these days (no Porsche dealer in town = no Porsche trade-ins), but they're all automatics. A buddy had an old SC that I always enjoyed, and a client in Montana had a Renntech-ed 996 Turbo in the shop pretty frequently. Having a manual transmission always felt like part of the appeal.
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I thought everyone loved PDK. I purposely sought out a manual in my Cayman and don't care if it is slower



I liked it for what it is, I'm used to the AMG DCT offerings.

Just felt like it needed to be a manual. I don't get to drive very many 911's these days (no Porsche dealer in town = no Porsche trade-ins), but they're all automatics. A buddy had an old SC that I always enjoyed, and a client in Montana had a Renntech-ed 996 Turbo in the shop pretty frequently. Having a manual transmission always felt like part of the appeal.


It certainly was for me. The PDK is absolutely impressive and I can understand its popularity but I prefer to row my own (in a Porsche at least, not my daily drivers). There is something about a manual that conveys a feeling of connection to the car and the road.
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7/29/2026 11:12:56 AM EDT
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Drove a friend's 2011 Cayenne with a manual last week. Kind of a rarer car.

Think it was the first time I've driven a manual and thought "Yeah, this is cool for 5 minutes but I would rather have a PDK."
7/29/2026 11:16:48 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Rigley:
Drove a friend's 2011 Cayenne with a manual last week. Kind of a rarer car.

Think it was the first time I've driven a manual and thought "Yeah, this is cool for 5 minutes but I would rather have a PDK."
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I have not driven any of Porsche's SUVs but I suspect they are a different driving experience altogether. For a daily driver, or for maximum performance, PDK makes a lot of sense. Its popularity is quite understandable

ETA  I envy your access to so many models to drive. I dream of a 1973 911 E or S (or hell, I think a T could be fun too)  Way outside my budget and I don't have the additional garage space anyway
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7/29/2026 12:18:13 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By pilotshark:

I have not driven any of Porsche's SUVs but I suspect they are a different driving experience altogether. For a daily driver, or for maximum performance, PDK makes a lot of sense. Its popularity is quite understandable

ETA  I envy your access to so many models to drive. I dream of a 1973 911 E or S (or hell, I think a T could be fun too)  Way outside my budget and I don't have the additional garage space anyway
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Now that the early cars are 60 years old, most of them don't have the original engines. So if you're not into needing an original matching numbers car, a T is perfect.

When I say early cars, I mean pre-73.

Definitely drive an early car. There is just something about them that's unique.

I also tell people don't get stuck on a certain year. If given an option, I would actually prefer a 69-71. The first few years had smaller 2.0/2.2 engines that just scream. The S models will sound similar to a 906 with small displacement, big valves, 9.8:1 or 9.9:1 cr, and mechanical fuel injection. The thing for most people is "bigger is better" so they'll often stuff 3.0SC or 2.7 (74-77) motors in them because they're more plentiful after the original motor gets tired. Or when they do rebuild the original motor, they up the displacement. That's fine but there is just something special about the small 2.0/2.2 motors. They have just a unique sound and you can really push them hard on the street without getting into too much legal trouble.

Plus the 69-71 cars have the earlier 901 transmission with the dog leg. So your 2-3 shift is just up and down and not over like a later 915. I like the 901 because it has kind of an early sports car (like a 356) feel to it.

This 69S recently sold on BAT for 72k which is insanely cheap for an early S. But I'm seeing those prices more and more.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1969-porsche-911s-coupe-15/


A lot of the early cars have mechanical fuel injection that often gets replaced with carbs. The problem with mechanical fuel injection is that it's a great system if you engine is stock, all the linkage is tight/measured, and the Bosch pump isn't leaking.
Inside the Bosch pump you have a 3D space cam that is tailored to your engine spec (like a 1970S Bosch MFI pump will have a different space cam inside than 72T pump). This was confusing for a lot of people back in the day. That and the fact if your MFI pump is leaking, you'll start mixing oil and fuel and have a lot of issues. So that's why a lot of mechanics convinced customers to ditch the MFI system and just run carbs.

A well tuned MFI system is like nothing else. My dad was a massive Porsche nerd and he had a 1972 911E while I had a 1979 911SC (back when both were cheap, like 10k-18k). I loved my SC but the moment I drove my dad's 72E, it was on a different level.

Just instant throttle response. Like individual throttle bodies. You breath on the pedal and it goes. Made my SC feel like it had a delay between my go pedal and the engine. And the sound of MFI. Just incredible. It's such an awesome system but because people like to tinker and adjust things (without knowing what they're doing), a lot of the MFI cars ran like crap so they got ditched to run carbs.

I'm not saying the CIS system on 74+ 911s is bad, it's actually a great reliable system. I would much prefer CIS if I wanted an every day car that's reliable. Plus just about anyone can work on a Bosch CIS system since the Jetronic is shared between many German cars.

Didn't mean to ramble. Just love this system.


I'm currently rebuilding an Porsche MFI pump at my house at the moment. Had spare one.

Added a note with name so you guys didn't think I'm a BS'er




7/29/2026 12:22:59 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Rigley:


Now that the early cars are 60 years old, most of them don't have the original engines. So if you're not into needing an original matching numbers car, a T is perfect.

When I say early cars, I mean pre-73.

Definitely drive an early car. There is just something about them that's unique.

I also tell people don't get stuck on a certain year. If given an option, I would actually prefer a 69-71. The first few years had smaller 2.0/2.2 engines that just scream. The S models will sound similar to a 906 with small displacement, big valves, 9.8:1 or 9.9:1 cr, and mechanical fuel injection. The thing for most people is "bigger is better" so they'll often stuff 3.0SC or 2.7 (74-77) motors in them because they're more plentiful after the original motor gets tired. Or when they do rebuild the original motor, they up the displacement. That's fine but there is just something special about the small 2.0/2.2 motors. They have just a unique sound and you can really push them hard on the street without getting into too much legal trouble.

Plus the 69-71 cars have the earlier 901 transmission with the dog leg. So your 2-3 shift is just up and down and not over like a later 915. I like the 901 because it has kind of an early sports car (like a 356) feel to it.

This 69S recently sold on BAT for 72k which is insanely cheap for an early S. But I'm seeing those prices more and more.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1969-porsche-911s-coupe-15/


A lot of the early cars have mechanical fuel injection that often gets replaced with carbs. The problem with mechanical fuel injection is that it's a great system if you engine is stock, all the linkage is tight/measured, and the Bosch pump isn't leaking.
Inside the Bosch pump you have a 3D space cam that is tailored to your engine spec (like a 1970S Bosch MFI pump will have a different space cam inside than 72T pump). This was confusing for a lot of people back in the day. That and the fact if your MFI pump is leaking, you'll start mixing oil and fuel and have a lot of issues. So that's why a lot of mechanics convinced customers to ditch the MFI system and just run carbs.

A well tuned MFI system is like nothing else. My dad was a massive Porsche nerd and he had a 1972 911E while I had a 1979 911SC (back when both were cheap, like 10k-18k). I loved my SC but the moment I drove my dad's 72E, it was on a different level.

Just instant throttle response. Like individual throttle bodies. You breath on the pedal and it goes. Made my SC feel like it had a delay between my go pedal and the engine. And the sound of MFI. Just incredible. It's such an awesome system but because people like to tinker and adjust things (without knowing what they're doing), a lot of the MFI cars ran like crap so they got ditched to run carbs.

Didn't mean to ramble. Just love this system.


I'm currently rebuilding an Porsche MFI pump at my house at the moment. Had spare one.

Added a note with name so you guys didn't think I'm a BS'er


https://i.imgur.com/yE5rb34.jpeg

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Originally Posted By pilotshark:

I have not driven any of Porsche's SUVs but I suspect they are a different driving experience altogether. For a daily driver, or for maximum performance, PDK makes a lot of sense. Its popularity is quite understandable

ETA  I envy your access to so many models to drive. I dream of a 1973 911 E or S (or hell, I think a T could be fun too)  Way outside my budget and I don't have the additional garage space anyway


Now that the early cars are 60 years old, most of them don't have the original engines. So if you're not into needing an original matching numbers car, a T is perfect.

When I say early cars, I mean pre-73.

Definitely drive an early car. There is just something about them that's unique.

I also tell people don't get stuck on a certain year. If given an option, I would actually prefer a 69-71. The first few years had smaller 2.0/2.2 engines that just scream. The S models will sound similar to a 906 with small displacement, big valves, 9.8:1 or 9.9:1 cr, and mechanical fuel injection. The thing for most people is "bigger is better" so they'll often stuff 3.0SC or 2.7 (74-77) motors in them because they're more plentiful after the original motor gets tired. Or when they do rebuild the original motor, they up the displacement. That's fine but there is just something special about the small 2.0/2.2 motors. They have just a unique sound and you can really push them hard on the street without getting into too much legal trouble.

Plus the 69-71 cars have the earlier 901 transmission with the dog leg. So your 2-3 shift is just up and down and not over like a later 915. I like the 901 because it has kind of an early sports car (like a 356) feel to it.

This 69S recently sold on BAT for 72k which is insanely cheap for an early S. But I'm seeing those prices more and more.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1969-porsche-911s-coupe-15/


A lot of the early cars have mechanical fuel injection that often gets replaced with carbs. The problem with mechanical fuel injection is that it's a great system if you engine is stock, all the linkage is tight/measured, and the Bosch pump isn't leaking.
Inside the Bosch pump you have a 3D space cam that is tailored to your engine spec (like a 1970S Bosch MFI pump will have a different space cam inside than 72T pump). This was confusing for a lot of people back in the day. That and the fact if your MFI pump is leaking, you'll start mixing oil and fuel and have a lot of issues. So that's why a lot of mechanics convinced customers to ditch the MFI system and just run carbs.

A well tuned MFI system is like nothing else. My dad was a massive Porsche nerd and he had a 1972 911E while I had a 1979 911SC (back when both were cheap, like 10k-18k). I loved my SC but the moment I drove my dad's 72E, it was on a different level.

Just instant throttle response. Like individual throttle bodies. You breath on the pedal and it goes. Made my SC feel like it had a delay between my go pedal and the engine. And the sound of MFI. Just incredible. It's such an awesome system but because people like to tinker and adjust things (without knowing what they're doing), a lot of the MFI cars ran like crap so they got ditched to run carbs.

Didn't mean to ramble. Just love this system.


I'm currently rebuilding an Porsche MFI pump at my house at the moment. Had spare one.

Added a note with name so you guys didn't think I'm a BS'er


https://i.imgur.com/yE5rb34.jpeg



That's some great info, thanks!
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7/29/2026 12:32:22 PM EDT
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That's some great info, thanks!
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Originally Posted By Rigley:
Originally Posted By pilotshark:

I have not driven any of Porsche's SUVs but I suspect they are a different driving experience altogether. For a daily driver, or for maximum performance, PDK makes a lot of sense. Its popularity is quite understandable

ETA  I envy your access to so many models to drive. I dream of a 1973 911 E or S (or hell, I think a T could be fun too)  Way outside my budget and I don't have the additional garage space anyway


Now that the early cars are 60 years old, most of them don't have the original engines. So if you're not into needing an original matching numbers car, a T is perfect.

When I say early cars, I mean pre-73.

Definitely drive an early car. There is just something about them that's unique.

I also tell people don't get stuck on a certain year. If given an option, I would actually prefer a 69-71. The first few years had smaller 2.0/2.2 engines that just scream. The S models will sound similar to a 906 with small displacement, big valves, 9.8:1 or 9.9:1 cr, and mechanical fuel injection. The thing for most people is "bigger is better" so they'll often stuff 3.0SC or 2.7 (74-77) motors in them because they're more plentiful after the original motor gets tired. Or when they do rebuild the original motor, they up the displacement. That's fine but there is just something special about the small 2.0/2.2 motors. They have just a unique sound and you can really push them hard on the street without getting into too much legal trouble.

Plus the 69-71 cars have the earlier 901 transmission with the dog leg. So your 2-3 shift is just up and down and not over like a later 915. I like the 901 because it has kind of an early sports car (like a 356) feel to it.

This 69S recently sold on BAT for 72k which is insanely cheap for an early S. But I'm seeing those prices more and more.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1969-porsche-911s-coupe-15/


A lot of the early cars have mechanical fuel injection that often gets replaced with carbs. The problem with mechanical fuel injection is that it's a great system if you engine is stock, all the linkage is tight/measured, and the Bosch pump isn't leaking.
Inside the Bosch pump you have a 3D space cam that is tailored to your engine spec (like a 1970S Bosch MFI pump will have a different space cam inside than 72T pump). This was confusing for a lot of people back in the day. That and the fact if your MFI pump is leaking, you'll start mixing oil and fuel and have a lot of issues. So that's why a lot of mechanics convinced customers to ditch the MFI system and just run carbs.

A well tuned MFI system is like nothing else. My dad was a massive Porsche nerd and he had a 1972 911E while I had a 1979 911SC (back when both were cheap, like 10k-18k). I loved my SC but the moment I drove my dad's 72E, it was on a different level.

Just instant throttle response. Like individual throttle bodies. You breath on the pedal and it goes. Made my SC feel like it had a delay between my go pedal and the engine. And the sound of MFI. Just incredible. It's such an awesome system but because people like to tinker and adjust things (without knowing what they're doing), a lot of the MFI cars ran like crap so they got ditched to run carbs.

Didn't mean to ramble. Just love this system.


I'm currently rebuilding an Porsche MFI pump at my house at the moment. Had spare one.

Added a note with name so you guys didn't think I'm a BS'er


https://i.imgur.com/yE5rb34.jpeg



That's some great info, thanks!


My girlfriend says the same thing after I spend 30 minutes explaining the differences between the 1969 911 E/S MFI system compared to the later models. Usually it's a glazed expression that reads "This guy has a form of autism, right???"
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My girlfriend says the same thing after I spend 30 minutes explaining the differences between the 1969 911 E/S MFI system compared to the later models. Usually it's a glazed expression that reads "This guy has a form of autism, right???"
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I have not driven any of Porsche's SUVs but I suspect they are a different driving experience altogether. For a daily driver, or for maximum performance, PDK makes a lot of sense. Its popularity is quite understandable

ETA  I envy your access to so many models to drive. I dream of a 1973 911 E or S (or hell, I think a T could be fun too)  Way outside my budget and I don't have the additional garage space anyway


Now that the early cars are 60 years old, most of them don't have the original engines. So if you're not into needing an original matching numbers car, a T is perfect.

When I say early cars, I mean pre-73.

Definitely drive an early car. There is just something about them that's unique.

I also tell people don't get stuck on a certain year. If given an option, I would actually prefer a 69-71. The first few years had smaller 2.0/2.2 engines that just scream. The S models will sound similar to a 906 with small displacement, big valves, 9.8:1 or 9.9:1 cr, and mechanical fuel injection. The thing for most people is "bigger is better" so they'll often stuff 3.0SC or 2.7 (74-77) motors in them because they're more plentiful after the original motor gets tired. Or when they do rebuild the original motor, they up the displacement. That's fine but there is just something special about the small 2.0/2.2 motors. They have just a unique sound and you can really push them hard on the street without getting into too much legal trouble.

Plus the 69-71 cars have the earlier 901 transmission with the dog leg. So your 2-3 shift is just up and down and not over like a later 915. I like the 901 because it has kind of an early sports car (like a 356) feel to it.

This 69S recently sold on BAT for 72k which is insanely cheap for an early S. But I'm seeing those prices more and more.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1969-porsche-911s-coupe-15/


A lot of the early cars have mechanical fuel injection that often gets replaced with carbs. The problem with mechanical fuel injection is that it's a great system if you engine is stock, all the linkage is tight/measured, and the Bosch pump isn't leaking.
Inside the Bosch pump you have a 3D space cam that is tailored to your engine spec (like a 1970S Bosch MFI pump will have a different space cam inside than 72T pump). This was confusing for a lot of people back in the day. That and the fact if your MFI pump is leaking, you'll start mixing oil and fuel and have a lot of issues. So that's why a lot of mechanics convinced customers to ditch the MFI system and just run carbs.

A well tuned MFI system is like nothing else. My dad was a massive Porsche nerd and he had a 1972 911E while I had a 1979 911SC (back when both were cheap, like 10k-18k). I loved my SC but the moment I drove my dad's 72E, it was on a different level.

Just instant throttle response. Like individual throttle bodies. You breath on the pedal and it goes. Made my SC feel like it had a delay between my go pedal and the engine. And the sound of MFI. Just incredible. It's such an awesome system but because people like to tinker and adjust things (without knowing what they're doing), a lot of the MFI cars ran like crap so they got ditched to run carbs.

Didn't mean to ramble. Just love this system.


I'm currently rebuilding an Porsche MFI pump at my house at the moment. Had spare one.

Added a note with name so you guys didn't think I'm a BS'er


https://i.imgur.com/yE5rb34.jpeg



That's some great info, thanks!


My girlfriend says the same thing after I spend 30 minutes explaining the differences between the 1969 911 E/S MFI system compared to the later models. Usually it's a glazed expression that reads "This guy has a form of autism, right???"


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7/29/2026 5:08:23 PM EDT
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Thanks, I didn't think about hanging them.
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Originally Posted By Boregonian:


As HRJ showed they do make wall hangers for the quick Jack but it’s a lot easier to push them together and park over the top of them.  The hydraulic pump unit and hoses have quick disconnects so they are stored on a shelf.  

For basic stuff like oil changes you don’t even need to lift the car.  I back it to the edge of the garage which gets another inch or two and it’s easy to slip the oil pan under and reach the drain plug.

If you want to try an inexpensive loud exhaust check out the muffler bypass pipes on Amazon for ~$120 or so.  They look identical to the $800 Fabspeed version and are easy to change out.  You gotta take off the rear wheel to drop the muffler and then it’s three bolts and the clamp and the muffler is out.  It’s a fairly aggressive sound but the cat keeps it bearable compared to my other 911 that is no cats, no muffler but sounds insanely awesome loud.


Thanks, I didn't think about hanging them.


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7/29/2026 6:06:01 PM EDT
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Drove a friend's 2011 Cayenne with a manual last week. Kind of a rarer car.

Think it was the first time I've driven a manual and thought "Yeah, this is cool for 5 minutes but I would rather have a PDK."
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I drive my Cayman every day I can. It’s a manual. Sitting in Denver traffic sucks.

My next will be a PDK lol
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7/29/2026 7:02:15 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Lothbrok:

I drive my Cayman every day I can. It’s a manual. Sitting in Denver traffic sucks.

My next will be a PDK lol
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Originally Posted By Rigley:
Drove a friend's 2011 Cayenne with a manual last week. Kind of a rarer car.

Think it was the first time I've driven a manual and thought "Yeah, this is cool for 5 minutes but I would rather have a PDK."

I drive my Cayman every day I can. It’s a manual. Sitting in Denver traffic sucks.

My next will be a PDK lol

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