Does anyone know any good recipes for frenched lamb ribs that is carnivore friendly?

All the recipes I could find called for olive oil, sugar, etc.

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Why would someone choose to eat "rabbit" food?  That's a great question.  I ask the same when it comes to coffee, unsweetened tea (dirt water), alcohol, oysters, clams... and the list could go on.  We all have different tastebuds and enjoy different things.


You state that state that fiber can be harmful.  If you have the time, would you mind linking to any studies showing that?  I know we don't have any studies showing that it's a must have like so many think.  But I've never read where it's harmful.  If it's harmful, how much does one have to consume for it to be harmful?  And harmful in what way?  I'm genuinely interested in the data.


Interesting that you say, "our bodies do work the same.  Otherwise medical treatments wouldn't be a thing."
This November will mark the 10 year anniversary of being diagnosed with T-Cell ALL.  I had two treatment options.  My onc opted for the one that would be outpatient and have the best chance of success.

I was only able to do one round of that treatment because of Asparaginase.  It can have a side effect of clotting or bleeding for some.  I got both at the same time.  After switching to the other treatment (hyper-cvad) I started to develop severe neuropathy because of a reaction to Vincristine.  I stayed with the hyper-cvad... minus the Vincristine.

It's weird.  Drugs that will work for a majority of people had side effects for me that made it dangerous to continue using them.  What's that about all of our bodies being the same?  It's almost like there are a lot of similarities with a number of variations.  This topic gets even more interesting when you start talking about the differences in males and females and hormones.

I'm not trying to be a jerk.  I'm trying to not be dogmatic.  All of our bodies are a little different.  What one person likes, another doesn't.  What one person can handle, another can't.  The Inuit lived primarily on meat products, while various Asian communities have a diet loaded with enough rice to blow me up.  I think most of us in this thread can agree that the standard American diet (SAD) is horrendous and was never about our health as much as it was about supporting our farmers.  The more we can get to eating an animal based diet, the better off we will be.  I'm just not one to sit back and say that someone can't have some hot sauce, spices or the occasional veggies as part of their diet if it works for them.

I truly hope that doesn't come off as snarky or passive aggressive.  Tone is very difficult with the written word.

Based on this post, If you're willing to give it a go I would try 30-60 days going strict with red meat, the cleanest bacon you can find, a clean butter and some quality salt.  It's a great elimination diet.  After that you can either decide to stick with it because of how you're feeling, or you could slowly reintroduce things and see how your body handles them.  Some people find out they don't do well with something as simple as black pepper where others don't notice a change at all in how they feel.

As others have said, a great place to start would be to check out some Dr Ken Berry videos where he talks about BBBE.  He is a huge voice in this space.  Interestingly enough, his wife is a nurse and she's more on the keto spectrum and will have some fruits and veggies on occasion.  They also live what they preach and primarily feed their kid (or kids) a diet of majority animal products.

Avoid the pink salts.  They have tons of heavy metals in them.

Almost as laughable as claiming a healthy diet is 6-11 servings of bread and pasta a day.

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I eat this several times a week.  
Eggs are good.
Cheese is good
Beef is good.  Taco seasoning you gotta find one that isn’t loaded with sugar.
The avocado spread is fine. I think it’s one carb in a teaspoon.
The sour cream has 1 carb per 2 tablespoons.


Avocado cilantro sauce I love

Listen pal, with today’s shitty music I don’t mind a little Iron Maiden and Slayer in my diet.

No problem at all and I'm glad you had a good outcome with your treatment.

Yes of course there are variations among individuals, even if we operate the same generally, so it's important to see what works for you. Like I said, some people do have unique conditions. If you only feel 10% worse eating plants when I feel 50% worse or more, that's of course up to you if that 10% off of optimal is worth it. For me that choice is insanely easy.

As for research re: fiber, it is out there. If you can't find literature and podcasts on it I can post some links but I'd prefer you do your own research. I've found that if I provide information it is never considered and it's always a waste of my time/effort. Every single time. But if somebody uses their time and effort to seek it, they'll appreciate the knowledge much more. The short answer is we don't need it, we can't digest it (herbivores can), it blocks nutrients from being absorbed completely, it causes irritation, and the foods that contain it aren't very nutritious to begin with.

Looks like the steak on the opening of Flintstones cartoon

Haha, that’s just the rack too.

This is the roast:

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@Hunter-Killer

I use the free version of an app called Carb Manager. It lets you set macros goals and shows how what you’re eating works with that. Best free app I’ve found.

I’ll check it out. Thanks.

It’s a great app and it’s free.

So what’s the catch?

Well…

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I think Ive decided to give this a shot starting 4.1.

It will give me time to research more, as well as compile all the supps, ingredients and food to be prepared.

I still have food that I eat now that I would prefer not to throw out, but doesnt fit the carnivore plan.

Before you start have your kidney function tested and then tested two weeks after starting the diet.

Keto does wonderful things for me...but my kidneys cannot handle all the protein and every time I try my labs indicate the beginnings of kidney failure. When I stop keto my kidney function returns to normal.

@StarCityShooter forget that nonsense, start tomorrow. Freeze everything that doesn't fit carnivore and buy a dozen eggs tomorrow. You can go from there.


random ass questions... are there any good carnivore prepper foods? I buy a half cow every year and store it in the freezer but rice/beans/pasta is sooo much easier to store long term. Or if we're that bad, eat what you got kinda situation?

My brains not hardwired that way. I prefer to plan and prep. Im already eating better than I have in years, so its not like Im living out of a drive through window and getting the 3 for free from McDs

Haha, I did the same thing.

It also allowed me plenty of time to stock up on prime ribeye steaks.  For over two months, every time I went to the grocery store I checked out their prime ribeyes.  If I saw one I really liked, I bought it.  Whether that was one or six.  I currently have 26 prime ribeyes in my freezer.

I'll assume you already read all the posts from guys who went cold turkey on carbs and were dismayed about the nasty tricks their asses played on them for the first few days.

Keep that in mind, and remember that some people have the temporary issue for several days while others get passed it relatively quickly.

And don't be dismayed by any forms of 'keto flu' you may experience resulting from your brain/body adjusting to the sudden lack of carbs/sugars in your diet and your metabolism readjusting to start burning fats for fuel instead.

I just want to stress that it's an adjustment, and many of the issues you might experience are normal and last for a few days.
Good luck on your journey of discovery.

To piggy back here... You can also increase your fat intake now and gently reduce cards between now and 4/1 to greatly reduce any symptoms. Sorta pregame if you will.

Yep, sure did on the tricks and bathroom issues. Thanks

After competitive bodybuilding years ago, and the suck it brought, Im fairly confident I will be able to adjust to this. It will just be a new habits and processes

My carb intake now is already pretty low as is and when there are carbs, they are fruit/veggies based, with the periodic brown rice or sweet potatoes. Pizza, bread, etc have been gone for a while now, so no issues there.

I already know I'll probably end up in a modified version of this diet due to some of the veggies, nuts, etc. that I truly enjoy. Or family events and activities? Yea, Im not missing out on eating my daughters favorite meal with her on her birthday or Christmas, etc.

Today is day 20.

I started to have to hold up my pants when I use a urinal a couple of days ago.

Still haven't weighed myself.

But will need to break out the smaller pants this week.

I cheated a little yesterday, someone brought a crapton of some kind of rice dish and some baked beans and I ate about two spoonfuls of each.

I felt "off" yesterday afternoon, kind of hard to describe.

It's perfectly fine to get a starting weight.
there's nothing wrong with knowing where you started.

Don't use the scale but once every 30 or 60 days, though.
People tend to like to see daily weight reductions, and then when they hit a plateau for a week or so, or they don't see 2 pound losses every day -  they get discouraged.

Yes.  This.  Keep it consistent, move a lot, and let your body do its thing.  Don’t get tripped up because you aren’t seeing crazy changes every day or every other day.  Won’t work like that.

I have a very good reason not to weigh myself, I don't have a scale.

I used to store beans/rice/etc. Gave it away or threw it out.

In terms of prepping, my food is alive right now taking care of itself. Land or sea. My long term plan involves being able to hunt or fish in the worst case scenario, and realistically that probably means mostly fishing if things get that bad.

Pemmican and biltong with a good fat content if you want something ready for the medium-term. A freezer full of beef is about as good as it gets IMO

Edit: Salt and canned butter maybe. But definitely salt

@StarCityShooter

If you want to increase your chances of having minimal side effects during the adaptation period, you might want to consider looking into a digestion supplement.

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https://www.doctorkiltz.com/carnivore-diet-side-effects/

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Be me.
Unknowingly have gallstones block a bile duct.  Repeatedly.  For a few years, until a new Doc finally figures it out.
Cholecystectomy
Try a 72 hour fast.
Get half way through a strip of bacon.
Surprisingly discover that you can't run fast enough.

For those of you with questions:  Eating OMAD of high fat meat does not cause an issue.  But the first meal after fasting can.
Those of you with similar conditions: You have been warned.

Just saying.

I did the Atkins diet years ago.  It worked.  I lost weight.  Downside: I had much lower stamina on long hikes & hunts.  Carb loading/energy storage is a thing, apparently.

I did keto in the past with the same results as you. Stamina and strength both went way down but I did burn a bunch of fat. Same thing when I started carnivore. Turns out I wasn't eating enough. Now I can do way more volume for workouts. Way more energy than I've had in a long time.

I thought the same as you up until this past year. Look into it.. even if you don't try it, it's pretty damn interesting what results everybody is getting. And how what we've been taught about food was an actual proven fraud.

“Eating 6-11 servings of bread and pasta a day is part of a healthy diet.”

- Nutrition “experts” in the United States federal government

Strict carnivore allowed me long, intense workouts in my garage a few years ago, no AC, during peak summer FLORIDA heat.  The energy was incredible, but I was mindful to make sure I was eating enough.  Fat is the energy, so lots of butter, eggs, and fatty cuts of meat.   Glorious sweat streaming off me in that garage.  No shortage of fuel.  

Carnivore is incredible.

I'll add it to the stuff to look into

Pretty warm day in FL.  2 mile walk to the gym, leg day, 2 mile walk back.  Amazing.

Not a single drop, dip, or lull in my energy.

What are the thoughts on coffee on this? Or is just a caffeine pill the better route?

Not sure I can give caffeine up just quite yet

Coffee is horrible for digestive health overall and many people get other issues. Would it keep you from making improvements? No. Would you feel better without it? Yes

I quit caffeine and had more stable energy throughout the day and slept better. I started taking tablets for peak energy for workouts and now I'm back on the caffeine train using those

I already gave up carbs and beer. If I also gave up coffee I’d be welding a bulldozer in my garage…

Tablets work fine. They're not as intense and take longer to get the effect so maybe I'd do coffee in the am for a week and tablets if you need more later in the day. Then 2nd week only tablets as needed and a cup of coffee occasionally as a treat or whatever

Absolutely second this.  I am ok, at best, with coffee.  I do like drinking it, but if it is too strong or too hot, whatever is in my gut is coming out, fast, and it ain’t fun.  Lighter, iced coffee does OK.  I would experiment and see but avoid going strong if you value your digestive health.

I’ve already recently stopped smoking and vaping and got back to the gym, so I’m baby stepping my exit from vices, and coffee is next, but I am going to step down slowly.

Try it and see but the superior solution is ditch it entirely since you will function quite well energy-wise without it.

Got it. Im not huge on coffee, but I figured it would be closer to being allowed than what I use now. Theyre Crystal Light energy powder mixes, and do have some carbs and calories.

So Ill probably just switch to coffee, and then tabs to get through the initial start and then reassess from there.

Hows this salt? Popped up a bunch in searches and seemed popular

Redmond is one of the preferred salt vendors.
I haven't used it, but LMNT is supposed to be the cat's ass supplement, too, especially for water fasting.

Comes from Utah.  One of the few sea salts that don't have microplastics in it.

Huh.  Good to know!

Ingredients
BEEF, GLUTEN FREE SOY SAUCE (WATER, SOYBEANS, RICE, SALT), BEEF BROTH, FLAVORINGS, VINEGAR, CULTURED CELERY POWDER (CELERY POWDER, SEA SALT), GRANULATED GARLIC, SALT