Interesting how Russia was supposed to be "Nigeria with snow". Yet Ukraine is still outgunned by them, after 45 individual countries have supplied Ukraine with military aid.

The US media was reporting what Milley was telling them. The Pentagon thought the war would be very short. I guess we can add that to the list of things the clowns in Washington were completely wrong about.

Andriy Yermak Met with Alexander Soros



Head of the Office of the President of Ukraine Andriy Yermak met with American businessman, philanthropist, and chair of the Open Society Foundations, Alexander Soros.

During the meeting, they discussed further cooperation on issues of importance for Ukraine. In particular, they discussed the implementation of the Peace Formula, including the points on energy and nuclear safety, food security, and the release of all detained and deported Ukrainians.

Special attention was paid to the reconstruction of critical infrastructure facilities. Andriy Yermak briefed on the consequences of yesterday's Russian attack, stressing that it was one of the largest shelling by the Russian Federation.

The interlocutors also discussed opportunities for the development of the Ukrainian economy, the reconstruction and restoration of Ukraine, and humanitarian policy.

Alexander Soros noted the growing role of Ukrainian civil society in countering Russian aggression and upholding democratic values. Dialogue between the government and civil society, which has significantly intensified recently, is an essential component of Ukraine's victorious strategy.

https://www.president.gov.ua/en/news/andrij-yermak-zustrivsya-z-oleksandrom-sorosom-92865

That family is pretty well known for doing that, right?

Nigeria is one of the better off countries in the Third World.
Russia is at or near the bottom in Eastern Europe, which it fucked up by being Russia.

Us walking away from Afghanistan and LEAVING the Taliban all of our EVERYTHING was a joke that can't be topped.

Russia has never done anything that stupid and never will.



I am not going to be laughing when at the end of the day when I (in America) have to be the one to pay for all new energy infrastructure in Ukraine because Russia destroyed everything they had and Ukraine STILL eventually ended the war on Russian terms.

USkraine dicking around right there in Russias back yard is the very definition of FAFO.



What do we do when we CAN'T win over a country of goat herders? We go pick a fight with someone stronger...

Russian power is still decreasing. And will continue to.

But our cost is steeper than some admit.

Soviets did really good in Afghanstan

Most everyone in the US media and maybe the US intelligence apparatus.
In European media, it was a different story.

Not really, though it must be said that the '80s Afghan mujahideen were being supported by the West, the Muslim world and China, not just Pakistan as the Taliban were.

That family is very well known for spending money on things they want to fully control.  Soros and his son are evil period.  They have done tremendous harm to the United States.  If they invest money into Ukraine its purpose is only to further their own goals.  Ukraine should distance themselves from the Soros’s.

Russia 10k KIAs in 10yrs vs US 2420 KIAs in 20yrs.

Russia always gets their Armies slaughtered because they suck.

Everything about this post is bullshit including the part about you living in America

No, the USSR is outgunning Ukraine.  Snowgeria is strip-mining its 35+ year old garbage dumps while killing off all its fetal-alcohol-syndrome "churkas".

https://kyivindependent.com/russia-fires-2-times-more-shells-than-ukraine/

https://euromaidanpress.com/2024/09/09/isw-russian-troops-advanced-in-toretsk-and-near-chasiv-yar-but-made-no-new-gains-in-the-pokrovsk-direction/

I would say establishing a communist government and pushing it worldwide for over 70 years was monumentally stupid.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx29z3v919xo.amp

https://www.newsweek.com/russia-ukraine-kursk-isw-incursion-1950647

It wasn't really Russians who started that ball rolling though.

Russia is losing roughly 800-1500 men daily in Ukraine.

Pro “moose and squirrel” folks love to push the “russia is bringing in 30k men monthly! Ukraine can’t handle that!” But fail to ask why Russia is bringing in 30k men monthly.

Where are those men going?

Losing like KIA?  That's hard to think about. All for what?

https://www.kyivpost.com/post/38716

KIA and seriously wounded.

For what?

Putin's ego and legacy as the man who "reunited" Ukraine with Russia.

Imagine if we were losing 800-1500 daily in Iraq and still hadn't ousted Saddam.

It'd be a national humiliation and disaster

Dictatorships have different rules, it's one of the reasons smart people try really hard to avoid them.

I was being more philosophical.  

I get that Russians think differently but reuniting Ukraine with Russia was never a realistic goal. Even without NATO support.  You really think that is the big picture motivation?  

2+ years in, it's obviously not achievable.  I may be very critical of how we are conducting ourselves vis a vis our support.   But even at less than decisive levels of support a Russian "victory" isn't going to happen.   "We" are just feeding humans into the sausage grinder at this point.  It has a very WW1 feel to it.  

1k people a day....chasing people down with drones...its like some dystopian nightmare.  

At some point having the ability to end a war, and choosing not to, is unethical.  When I say that what I mean is the US has the conventional force capable of quickly ending the war.  Applying combined arms, mostly air but air needs supporting tech and people, could decisively change outcomes.  Yet we dabble around the edges.

The only argument I can see against it is the threat of nuclear war, which is a huge deal.  If the decision has been made that the threat is real and too great to risk,  we have essentially determined that Uktainian lives are expendable.  I hope that's the calculus, if it's geopolitical masters of the universe stuff "best deal we've ever gotten" I think it will eventually seripusly harm the US.

I don't think most people view the war in those terms.  It's kinda awful.  War is bad, war is sometimes unavoidable, the least evil war is over quickly as to kill and maime the least number of people.  If that means you have to decisively and dramatically shit stomp the enemy with over whelming force, then so be it..

Why aren't we taking Russian logistics apart? Why aren't we killing air defenses as a priority?

Russian soldiers are probably assholes, I am morally comfortable killing people that leave you no choice. Life is the basic human right, you have the right to defend it.  Seems like we have choices.

I'm no kind of expert but it seems like we are willing to let the killing continue for some reason.

Keeps the unemployment rate low

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/09/world/europe/russia-pokrovsk-ukraine.html

When you're drowning, you don't refuse help because it comes from unsavory sources. If you want to criticize who they get aid from, the only real option is to send enough aid that they don't look elsewhere. That's not realistic or reasonable.

US isolationists: 'don't send aid to Ukraine!'
Also: 'look, they're taking aid from globohomo Soros! They are evil!'

I've posted this before: it's not about Ukraine, it's about Russia.

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I can see they're better off.  Nope.

Accepting aid from the likes of Soros and the WEF is asking Jimmy Savile for help, the price that will have to paid in exchange will NOT be worth it.

What are the chances that "Soros money" has never had strings attached?

Ahh thanks for putting your past and future posts in perspective,  I had no idea.

Then think about a native German speaker that has the name and avatar of THE most famous Russian general of WW2.   There has to be a story there too.   It's a thread slide for sure but I'm interested.

I'm actively listening incase any such story is told...  

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Missed this until the post above.

You are then aware that much of the Euro media was not saying that the war would end in a couple of weeks.  
As with US media, it is not monolithic, but there was much more awareness and cautious reporting than seen in the USA.  

I do not speak a second language, so I most likely missed many sources that don't have an English version, but what I did see/read was predicting a longer war.
For my part I actively sought Euro news as the US version was so clearly in the tank for the short war.

The duality of man

What happened to Gen. Zhukov in the end? Didn't Stalin do something bad to him?

The Jungian thing?




Zhukovs new nickname:  Pvt Joker!

*account warning incoming*

DW streams on YT in English.  You can get a different angle on things for sure.

When a people put their mind to fight for their freedom and survival it is amazing what they can accomplish. Too many bought into the Russian propaganda including the Russians. If someone is willing to throw away freedom for a Russian Tyrant, mark them. Do not trust them. They mock the power of the human spirit.

American colonials declared all they had was worth the price of freedom. They took on the greatest power on the planet. With the help of a few allies, they won. It can be done again if they have the courage and a few allies.

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