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Posted: 11/8/2020 4:24:26 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 58Teague: Pair of Walther P22s- $1200 each located in eastern Afghan https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EMQm_2FWwAAOTKv?format=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EMQnAPGWwAAGUjR?format=jpg&name=large Now how did those get there? And why? |
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Posted: 11/8/2020 4:25:49 PM EST
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Posted: 11/8/2020 4:34:05 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 58Teague: Now idea how, but this is why Two interesting handguns captured in #Paktia #Afghanistan - a suppressed Walther P22 and Turkish Tisas Zigana K. Both are quite common, but the P22 is a real favourite of Taliban (And other) hitmen. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ElRDYgxWoAwXHA3?format=png&name=900x900 Makes sense. Thanks for starting this thread, this is very interesting. How common is 22lr? That’s mostly a recreational/game round, and in a war torn country those don’t seem like exceedingly common pursuits. |
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Posted: 11/8/2020 4:37:05 PM EST
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Posted: 11/8/2020 4:49:09 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 58Teague: I wouldn't say common, but available for sure. Plenty in pakistan and india Is 22 “legal” there? It’s a moot point in a war zone but I know a lot of countries that disallow military calibers allow 12 ga and 22. |
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Posted: 11/8/2020 4:52:44 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 58Teague: From Pakistan, guy is trying to get them to the US at an affordable price.~60$ Don't be caught lackin https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmFqH8qXEAICj4o?format=jpg&name=900x900 Wrap I took off a captured SMLE and brought home to put on one of mine.   On an Afghan carpet even. |
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Posted: 11/8/2020 5:04:18 PM EST
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Posted: 11/8/2020 6:17:59 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cowbell: Mmmm, that Type 1 AK  https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/259822/D48DC696-72D4-4E78-913D-0C79A1C4238B_jpe-1675406.JPG Notice the folding hinge? Thats not just a Type 1, but a Type 1 AKS-47.
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Posted: 11/8/2020 6:23:02 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Gooch: Notice the folding hinge? Thats not just a Type 1, but a Type 1 AKS-47. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Gooch: Originally Posted By Cowbell: Mmmm, that Type 1 AK https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/259822/D48DC696-72D4-4E78-913D-0C79A1C4238B_jpe-1675406.JPG Notice the folding hinge? Thats not just a Type 1, but a Type 1 AKS-47. Good eye, I did notice that. Wonder what that would go for in the states. $$$ |
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Posted: 11/8/2020 6:43:55 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Harv24: And I would touch it up with a fresh coat of Crinkle flat black paint......  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Harv24: Originally Posted By USMCTanker: The hate in that country for any sort of butt stock attached to a shoulder-fired weapon is baffling. For $150.00, I’d still take it though. And I would touch it up with a fresh coat of Crinkle flat black paint...... Absolutely. Bead blast, repark, new grip panels (because I hate holding things covered in human fecal matter), install a buttstock, fresh crinkle paint, a dozen good magazines, some weapons lube and we'd be in like Flynn. Sterlings were made with great care and I doubt if it's worn out mechanically. |
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Posted: 11/8/2020 7:05:19 PM EST
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Posted: 11/8/2020 9:06:10 PM EST
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Posted: 11/9/2020 8:55:48 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 58Teague: From Pakistan, guy is trying to get them to the US at an affordable price.~60$ Don't be caught lackin https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmFqH8qXEAICj4o?format=jpg&name=900x900 Not gonna lie. It is interesting |
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Posted: 11/10/2020 11:18:53 AM EST
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Posted: 11/10/2020 11:22:30 AM EST
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Posted: 11/10/2020 2:13:27 PM EST
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Posted: 11/10/2020 2:33:58 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 58Teague: From Pakistan, guy is trying to get them to the US at an affordable price.~60$ Don't be caught lackin https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmFqH8qXEAICj4o?format=jpg&name=900x900 Damn, I'd get one for $60. It's ridiculous, but I've spent more on even dumber shit.
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Posted: 11/10/2020 2:39:43 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cowbell: Mmmm, that Type 1 AK https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/259822/D48DC696-72D4-4E78-913D-0C79A1C4238B_jpe-1675406.JPG This picture is from a video where separatists in Pakistan attacked a couple army trucks, killed 15 soldiers, and looted the trucks of the weapons. Just watched the video yesterday. |
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Posted: 11/10/2020 2:52:50 PM EST
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Posted: 11/10/2020 3:00:04 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 58Teague: ......Iraq  https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZI3tEdWkAEQM5B?format=jpg&name=large Honestly, I'd rock that RPD. |
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Posted: 11/10/2020 3:08:55 PM EST
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Posted: 11/10/2020 3:24:14 PM EST
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Are those AK bullpup kits?
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Posted: 11/10/2020 3:27:27 PM EST
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Posted: 11/10/2020 5:00:46 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 58Teague: You guys will like this type 2 then Only asking $525 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkUMR3xXcAA5Cke?format=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkUMScAX0AYUPfT?format=jpg&name=large  Attached File |
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Posted: 11/10/2020 6:22:37 PM EST
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Big Army let us appropriate crates of MP5s that were unwanted, (Pakistani Ordnance) and we found out they were not the pos thought to be....we issued them out every Friday until our supply was out. Fridays in case the Iraqis had a wedding, or some other happy fire event scheduled for the weekend
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Posted: 11/10/2020 6:31:11 PM EST
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Question: Does the US military maintain SN records of rifles once they go off to war?
Would it be possible, at least hypothetically, to take one of those M16s and run the SN against some database and figure out who it was last issued to and when (maybe even where) it went missing? |
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Posted: 11/10/2020 7:47:15 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By phurba: Makes sense. Thanks for starting this thread, this is very interesting. How common is 22lr? That’s mostly a recreational/game round, and in a war torn country those don’t seem like exceedingly common pursuits. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By phurba: Originally Posted By 58Teague: Now idea how, but this is why Two interesting handguns captured in #Paktia #Afghanistan - a suppressed Walther P22 and Turkish Tisas Zigana K. Both are quite common, but the P22 is a real favourite of Taliban (And other) hitmen. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ElRDYgxWoAwXHA3?format=png&name=900x900 Makes sense. Thanks for starting this thread, this is very interesting. How common is 22lr? That’s mostly a recreational/game round, and in a war torn country those don’t seem like exceedingly common pursuits. It could be internet BS, but I read a thread here where the IDF was known to field suppressed 10/22s during large gatherings/riots |
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Posted: 11/10/2020 7:50:19 PM EST
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Iraqi bling
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Posted: 11/10/2020 8:13:08 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Photographic: It could be internet BS, but I read a thread here where the IDF was known to field suppressed 10/22s during large gatherings/riots Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Photographic: Originally Posted By phurba: Originally Posted By 58Teague: Now idea how, but this is why Two interesting handguns captured in #Paktia #Afghanistan - a suppressed Walther P22 and Turkish Tisas Zigana K. Both are quite common, but the P22 is a real favourite of Taliban (And other) hitmen. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ElRDYgxWoAwXHA3?format=png&name=900x900 Makes sense. Thanks for starting this thread, this is very interesting. How common is 22lr? That’s mostly a recreational/game round, and in a war torn country those don’t seem like exceedingly common pursuits. It could be internet BS, but I read a thread here where the IDF was known to field suppressed 10/22s during large gatherings/riots No, you're right. The IDF uses Ruger rimfires a lot. They have kneecap contests. https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/10/21/israel-adopts-ruger-sr-22-in-less-lethal-sniper-role https://worldisraelnews.com/idfs-less-deadly-sniper-rifle-credited-with-drop-in-fatalities-along-gaza-border/ Best, JBR |
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Posted: 11/10/2020 8:55:55 PM EST
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Posted: 11/10/2020 8:57:18 PM EST
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Posted: 11/11/2020 5:33:24 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By arowneragain: Question: Does the US military maintain SN records of rifles once they go off to war? Would it be possible, at least hypothetically, to take one of those M16s and run the SN against some database and figure out who it was last issued to and when (maybe even where) it went missing? There was a digital records transition a few years back. If those SNs survived the transition, we can tell you the last unit who owned the item and theoretically when it was lost. If the records did not survive the transition, it is possible - but much less likely - to find their provenance through old paper records. At that point it's just easier to torch'em. So we do. I've witnessed proofs that US-marked weapons found in Iraq were lost or captured during WW2. We don't keep global track of who was assigned what weapon. That happens at the unit level. Nowadays if it's found, and there is a serial number on it, I can have the BDE, BN, or Company Commander on the phone within 20 minutes to inform them we found their missing gear. That can turn into a fun day.  A few months ago I found a NBC mask. I called the Commander and he told me somebody would be by to pick it up later. On the way to lunch I saw some random private low crawling across the parking lot at the next motorpool over. An hour later that same soldier low crawled into my office, stood up, and told me he was there for a NBC mask. I don't think he will lose anything ever again.
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Posted: 11/11/2020 10:53:36 AM EST
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Posted: 11/11/2020 11:09:31 AM EST
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Posted: 11/11/2020 12:14:06 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By XNARC: Big Army let us appropriate crates of MP5s that were unwanted, (Pakistani Ordnance) and we found out they were not the pos thought to be....we issued them out every Friday until our supply was out. Fridays in case the Iraqis had a wedding, or some other happy fire event scheduled for the weekend I’m Mr Pink https://i.imgur.com/07escZ5.jpg Why do I have to be Mr. Pink? LOL |
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Posted: 11/11/2020 12:35:14 PM EST
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Posted: 11/11/2020 3:22:04 PM EST
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Posted: 11/11/2020 3:45:38 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 58Teague: #Taliban's M4 w/ UTG PRO- pattern handguard + M203 UGL and Trijicon ACOG scope. = UTG NOW OPERATOR RATED, step aside super precision https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ecvi_J6XYAAWRQ_?format=jpg&name=medium Gomer: Holy fuck Sarge, guess what!!! I think I found my rifle... GSgt: Why is it not in hand my right now Gomer Pyle?! Gomer: "turns Iphone around to show Gunny ARFCOM thread". GSgt: 
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Posted: 11/11/2020 3:50:25 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hellion-Productions: No, you're right. The IDF uses Ruger rimfires a lot. They have kneecap contests. https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/10/21/israel-adopts-ruger-sr-22-in-less-lethal-sniper-role https://worldisraelnews.com/idfs-less-deadly-sniper-rifle-credited-with-drop-in-fatalities-along-gaza-border/ Best, JBR Even the Izzies went retarded about the usage of their riot control 10/22s. In recent years major restrictions have been put on their usage
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Posted: 11/11/2020 3:54:20 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 58Teague: Tactical Store In Idlib. That logo  https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EcQii_4XYAE8R_3?format=jpg&name=large  Attached File |
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Posted: 11/11/2020 4:05:57 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 58Teague: @Jdude Thanks for the info. All the ANA M16s and 240s most likey all have similar stories i.e. given by U.S. then captured. But those M16A1s that popped up in Syria for example might have a more interesting story. Back in the 1990s, M16A1s turned up in Mexico in possession of drug cartels last known to have been property of the Army of the Republic of Vietnam. Destroyed the Clinton Admin "river of iron" narrative about US gun dealers selling guns to Mexican cartels. |
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Posted: 11/11/2020 7:44:51 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 58Teague: Pakistan original. 7.62x39 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmgmRuIXEAEz-3u?format=jpg&name=large A mix of my 2 favorite guns? Shut up and take my Rupees! |
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Posted: 11/11/2020 8:29:53 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jdude: There was a digital records transition a few years back. If those SNs survived the transition, we can tell you the last unit who owned the item and theoretically when it was lost. If the records did not survive the transition, it is possible - but much less likely - to find their provenance through old paper records. At that point it's just easier to torch'em. So we do. I've witnessed proofs that US-marked weapons found in Iraq were lost or captured during WW2. We don't keep global track of who was assigned what weapon. That happens at the unit level. Nowadays if it's found, and there is a serial number on it, I can have the BDE, BN, or Company Commander on the phone within 20 minutes to inform them we found their missing gear. That can turn into a fun day. A few months ago I found a NBC mask. I called the Commander and he told me somebody would be by to pick it up later. On the way to lunch I saw some random private low crawling across the parking lot at the next motorpool over. An hour later that same soldier low crawled into my office, stood up, and told me he was there for a NBC mask. I don't think he will lose anything ever again. Thanks! I appreciate the answer. |
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Posted: 11/12/2020 11:29:21 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HenryKnoxFineBooks: Back in the 1990s, M16A1s turned up in Mexico in possession of drug cartels last known to have been property of the Army of the Republic of Vietnam. Destroyed the Clinton Admin "river of iron" narrative about US gun dealers selling guns to Mexican cartels. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HenryKnoxFineBooks: Originally Posted By 58Teague: @Jdude Thanks for the info. All the ANA M16s and 240s most likey all have similar stories i.e. given by U.S. then captured. But those M16A1s that popped up in Syria for example might have a more interesting story. Back in the 1990s, M16A1s turned up in Mexico in possession of drug cartels last known to have been property of the Army of the Republic of Vietnam. Destroyed the Clinton Admin "river of iron" narrative about US gun dealers selling guns to Mexican cartels. A bunch of M16s were surplused by Vietnam and Cambodia a few years ago. |
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Posted: 11/12/2020 1:15:35 PM EST
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Quote HistoryLOOKS LIKE SOMETHING CLASSIC FIREARMS DID RIGHT BEFORE AN EXCITING ANNOUNCEMENT!!!! |
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Posted: 11/12/2020 2:04:09 PM EST
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Some of the stuff we confiscated in 2006.
Hadjified Lee Enfield   Nice old PPSh 41, this one was a lot of fun.   Iranian G3  Pakistani MG3  Hadjified Rasheed  Thompson, never got to fire this one.    Post raid haul.  Found all these in an old warehouse on the east side of Camp Taji.         |
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Posted: 11/12/2020 2:30:42 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 58Teague: A legit M24 for sale in khyber. Battlefield capture and brought back to Pakistan. ~$2500 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmgrTejW8AAhAey?format=jpg&name=medium https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmgrRTNXEAAx0Rt?format=jpg&name=medium What’s sad is we have ANA brand new M24’s, which they proceeded to load up with shitty M80 ball and never hit anything. Guaranteed that was sold off by some ANA turd. |
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Posted: 11/12/2020 3:11:00 PM EST
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Posted: 11/12/2020 5:32:35 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gtate: Some of the stuff we confiscated in 2006. Hadjified Lee Enfield https://i.imgur.com/00VDonp.jpg https://i.imgur.com/eDoJs8s.jpg Nice old PPSh 41, this one was a lot of fun. https://i.imgur.com/KD751UH.jpg https://i.imgur.com/kBF5SYH.jpg Iranian G3 https://i.imgur.com/SKF4VEB.jpg Pakistani MG3 https://i.imgur.com/6ZcJIGJ.jpg Hadjified Rasheed https://i.imgur.com/btPoxub.jpg Thompson, never got to fire this one. https://i.imgur.com/MciRFJ5.jpg https://i.imgur.com/TK1W8V6.jpg https://i.imgur.com/I68oAH5.jpg Post raid haul. https://i.imgur.com/FWxvTDP.jpg Found all these in an old warehouse on the east side of Camp Taji. https://i.imgur.com/182LpQw.jpg https://i.imgur.com/mCtzbx4.jpg https://i.imgur.com/7xq3PqU.jpg https://i.imgur.com/bJG1xN1.jpg https://i.imgur.com/rricKCz.jpg https://i.imgur.com/2cCD11u.jpg https://i.imgur.com/our6LGo.jpg https://i.imgur.com/lCTERVZ.jpg OK you win this thread.  |
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