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Posted: 10/7/2015 11:32:32 AM EDT
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The question is, Did they hit anything in Syria?
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Posted: 10/7/2015 11:33:10 AM EDT
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Was that a body flying through the air at 00:33? poor bastards on fire running
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Posted: 10/7/2015 11:35:02 AM EDT
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I have no problems with Russia bombing the shit out of ISIS  |
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Posted: 10/7/2015 11:42:59 AM EDT
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This is the first time I've ever seen an Arab armored column supported by infantry. The Russians must have told them they have been doing it wrong. However these 2 guys take out 2 tanks in the column.  https://youtu.be/7Jn1vN5Bz0E
https://youtu.be/7Jn1vN5Bz0E https://youtu.be/CD_VIYWGDsg
https://youtu.be/CD_VIYWGDsg Jesus Christ, that thing kicks out some knuckle balls 
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Posted: 10/7/2015 12:09:26 PM EDT
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I doubt those missiles are heading toward ISIS. Lying Russian bitches....
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Posted: 10/7/2015 12:14:21 PM EDT
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Lol at the posters who think Russia is targeting Isis.
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Posted: 10/7/2015 12:19:22 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/7/2015 12:34:25 PM EDT
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Julian Röpcke ?@JulianRoepcke
Today is #Putin's birthday. I guess this is one reason for the - tactically premature - #Assad/#Russian offensive. Deadly for regime troops. From a tactical point of view, 2 more weeks of intense Russian air strikes on the front would have been necessary, before that offensive. Furthermore, it seems the Russians lack the intelligence capability to identify rebels setting up those AT missile launchers. |
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Posted: 10/7/2015 12:55:32 PM EDT
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Russian drone films ISIS militants hiding weapons, munitions near Syrian mosques |
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Posted: 10/7/2015 1:00:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Was that a body flying through the air at 00:33? poor bastards on fire running One of them was really cooking. |
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Posted: 10/7/2015 1:02:24 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/7/2015 1:14:24 PM EDT
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Don't know how accurate this is compared to other maps on whats going on. |
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Posted: 10/7/2015 1:17:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I doubt those missiles are heading toward ISIS. Lying Russian bitches.... Looks like old as fuck propaganda footage. |
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Posted: 10/7/2015 1:23:49 PM EDT
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This is the first time I've ever seen an Arab armored column supported by infantry. The Russians must have told them they have been doing it wrong. However these 2 guys take out 2 tanks in the column. https://youtu.be/7Jn1vN5Bz0E
https://youtu.be/7Jn1vN5Bz0E https://youtu.be/CD_VIYWGDsg
https://youtu.be/CD_VIYWGDsg I'm not so sure that first one got knocked out. |
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Posted: 10/7/2015 1:24:04 PM EDT
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After watching the video, this. Looks like old as fuck propaganda footage. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I doubt those missiles are heading toward ISIS. Lying Russian bitches.... Looks like old as fuck propaganda footage. Some of it might have been stock footage, but they did launch missiles from Caspian Sea. Several videos from Iraq showing the missiles fly over are pretty much proof of that. What NeedMoreAmmo is saying is that they didn't target ISIS. That is hard to determine for sure. Russia is going to target anyone who opposes Assad, be it FSA or ISIL/ISIS |
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Posted: 10/7/2015 1:31:11 PM EDT
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I'm not so sure that first one got knocked out. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This is the first time I've ever seen an Arab armored column supported by infantry. The Russians must have told them they have been doing it wrong. However these 2 guys take out 2 tanks in the column. https://youtu.be/7Jn1vN5Bz0E
https://youtu.be/7Jn1vN5Bz0E https://youtu.be/CD_VIYWGDsg
https://youtu.be/CD_VIYWGDsg I'm not so sure that first one got knocked out. I think you're right. Watching it again, it looks like the explosion is about on line with the two stumps/poles you see in the video. The tank main gun fires shortly after the explosion. |
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Posted: 10/7/2015 1:35:00 PM EDT
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damn one of those guys that jumped out of the tank was smoking on the ground
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Posted: 10/7/2015 1:36:28 PM EDT
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This is the first time I've ever seen an Arab armored column supported by infantry. The Russians must have told them they have been doing it wrong. However these 2 guys take out 2 tanks in the column. https://youtu.be/7Jn1vN5Bz0E
https://youtu.be/7Jn1vN5Bz0E https://youtu.be/CD_VIYWGDsg
https://youtu.be/CD_VIYWGDsg Only one hit. The first missile looks to have detonated before it reached the tank, you can tell by the blast profile. |
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Posted: 10/7/2015 1:37:04 PM EDT
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Here's another video of the cruise missiles over Iraq
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/651788832283754496/pu/vid/240x240/NKWHYB5NqhBcvY5p.mp4 |
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Posted: 10/7/2015 1:45:02 PM EDT
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Russia has done in a few days what the US failed to accomplish over the course of years. The strategic implication is that the only backing for the Fed Res Note as the World's Reserve Currency, the US Military, is ineffective. Thank you Dear Leader. Uhhhh...... |
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Posted: 10/7/2015 1:57:23 PM EDT
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Was that a body flying through the air at 00:33? poor bastards on fire running It was something off the front of the tank (a spare bit of track, a fender skirt, etc.). It's amazing that 3 guys exited the tank during/after the brew up. The commander was probably a real crispy critter after crawling out of the flames. |
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Posted: 10/7/2015 2:16:36 PM EDT
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Oh great! They aimed for ISIS and hit Obama's brothers
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Posted: 10/7/2015 2:27:39 PM EDT
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Do Iraqis hang out and film the sunrise?
How do the folks know where to look? |
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Posted: 10/7/2015 2:31:18 PM EDT
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Over 1,000 Militants Surrender To Syrian Army In Last 24 Hours.. |
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Posted: 10/7/2015 2:34:43 PM EDT
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Over 1,000 Militants Surrender To Syrian Army In Last 24 Hours.. http://www.mintpressnews.com/over-1000-militants-surrender-to-syrian-army-in-last-24-hours/210151/ When Assad is back in control, there is going to be massive purge. They are dead men walking. |
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Posted: 10/7/2015 2:45:50 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/7/2015 2:52:45 PM EDT
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Hmmmm. Looking around, it seems that Dagestan has VLS capable of accommodating 8 3K14s, but I was under the impression that the only variant in service was an anti-ship version, and that the land attack version wasn't in service. Perhaps I be wrong. Dport could probably correct me here, but alas, he is gone. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Edited, ('cause I left the lab open without responding for a while,) to not point something out I thought you missed about numbers, but which you seem to have figured out.  Yeah, my math was bad when I wrote that , however... the Russians said 4 ships fired 26 missiles. Which means they lied or another ship somewhere has VLS.Hmmmm. Looking around, it seems that Dagestan has VLS capable of accommodating 8 3K14s, but I was under the impression that the only variant in service was an anti-ship version, and that the land attack version wasn't in service. Perhaps I be wrong. Dport could probably correct me here, but alas, he is gone. My understanding is that all three major variants (anti-ship, land attack, and anti-submarine) are in service and have been for at least a couple of years. The Tatarstan also can carry 8. Between five ships, if all are so equipped, 40 missiles could be launched. One thing I found interesting was the use of the SS-N-12 for land attack. A few were used this way during the Russo-Georgian War, launched by the Moskva. I'm not sure there had been any indication of such a capability before, at least not that far inland (the older Styx proved the potential for attacking targets on the coast). |
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Posted: 10/7/2015 2:53:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryNot the Russians |
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Posted: 10/7/2015 2:53:54 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/7/2015 2:54:19 PM EDT
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Russian drone films ISIS militants hiding weapons, munitions near Syrian mosqueshttps://www.rt.com/news/317811-isis-moves-military-hardware/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lP4b47LaBJE Putin is about to teach them a lesson about only the US holding back from bombing mosques. Russia don't play shit for cultural sensitivity. Eagerly awaiting the video showing that mosque and the surrounding area getting flattened. |
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Posted: 10/7/2015 2:54:21 PM EDT
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Not the Russians Nor Obama. The truth is somewhere in between. |
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Posted: 10/7/2015 2:55:43 PM EDT
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Those videos are hilarious.
They sound like the mom in the bleachers at a little league game when little Timmy finally makes contact with a pitch. |
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Posted: 10/7/2015 2:55:52 PM EDT
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Nor Obama. The truth is somewhere in between. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Not the Russians Nor Obama. The truth is somewhere in between. I agree. But Russia Today is even more biased than US Media. It is funded by the Kremlin. |
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Posted: 10/7/2015 2:57:24 PM EDT
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Over 1,000 Militants Surrender To Syrian Army In Last 24 Hours.. http://www.mintpressnews.com/over-1000-militants-surrender-to-syrian-army-in-last-24-hours/210151/ By Fars News Agency.. I:E Iranian news source. Salt on isle 3 please, salt is needed on isle 3. |
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Posted: 10/7/2015 3:00:31 PM EDT
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I use to think that the wide variety of news sources was a good thing. That we'd all benefit from the "everyone a journalist" idea, with all kinds of new information coming to light.
I'm not so optimistic any more. It seems like most news sources are just reporting what other news agencies have reported, and using those multiple reports to claim that the information is authentic. And then you drill down and it all came from one post on the Chinese equivalent of The Onion, or from a state-owned propaganda station. This places the burden of identifying accurate information on the reader, and with the nested reporting, this burden is essentially impossible for a working person to handle. 
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Posted: 10/7/2015 3:03:03 PM EDT
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I have no problems with Russia bombing the shit out of ISIS Or any other snackbars over there |
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Posted: 10/7/2015 3:07:58 PM EDT
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Russian drone films ISIS militants hiding weapons, munitions near Syrian mosqueshttps://www.rt.com/news/317811-isis-moves-military-hardware/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lP4b47LaBJE
That mosque is in Kafr Halab, SW of Aleppo/NE of Idlib 
But lets keep on spreading the Russians propaganda... |
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Posted: 10/7/2015 3:15:27 PM EDT
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If the missiles were in the same hemisphere I'd be surprised. They probably just landed harmlessly in the Med Sea so they could be picked up and re-stuffed full of black powder. |
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Posted: 10/7/2015 3:37:12 PM EDT
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I dont know who this guy is or what his channel says, but he's got lots of vids of Russians blowing stuff up. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWgcv9Aks4rhtLkLD6RwbIQ/videos Drop your bombs between the Minarets Down the Casbah way. As soon as the Sharif was chauffeured outta there. The jet pilots tuned to the cockpit radio blare |
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Posted: 10/7/2015 3:38:39 PM EDT
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I guess this is a live fire training for Russia.
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Posted: 10/7/2015 3:49:44 PM EDT
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Not the Russians Typical GD...government bad unless it fits our narrative. |
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Posted: 10/7/2015 3:50:03 PM EDT
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I doubt those missiles are heading toward ISIS. Lying Russian bitches.... ISIS = armed muslim terrorists Syria moderates = armed muslim terrorists Assad forces = armed muslim terrorists Does not matter who you target in Syria, none of them are US-friendly. |
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Posted: 10/7/2015 3:51:43 PM EDT
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Typical GD...government bad unless it fits our narrative. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Not the Russians Typical GD...government bad unless it fits our narrative. derp |
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Posted: 10/7/2015 3:52:47 PM EDT
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I've been enjoying watching them light their money on fire. Lord knows, our own wallet could use a break.
Carry on, Russia. My popcorn is still warm, and buttered. |
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Posted: 10/7/2015 3:53:40 PM EDT
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Typical GD...government bad unless it fits our narrative. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Not the Russians Typical GD...government bad unless it fits our narrative. As bad as the US govt is they are total fucking saints when compared to the tyrannical Putin regime. |
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Posted: 10/7/2015 3:58:11 PM EDT
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ISIS = armed muslim terrorists Syria moderates = armed muslim terrorists Assad forces = armed muslim terrorists Does not matter who you target in Syria, none of them are US-friendly. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I doubt those missiles are heading toward ISIS. Lying Russian bitches.... ISIS = armed muslim terrorists Syria moderates = armed muslim terrorists Assad forces = armed muslim terrorists Does not matter who you target in Syria, none of them are US-friendly. It doesn't matter if they are friendly, it matters if they are useful. Many of the allies the US has had over the years weren't pro-US even at the best of times. If US policy regarding the Assad regime is to overthrow him, then there are limited number of resources to use to do this without direct US intervention. For those that think Assad is the strongman that Syria needs to hold things together, remember he is directly 100% responsible for the Syrian Civil War emerging from Arab Spring protests. Arab Spring: A Research & Study Guide, Syria |
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Posted: 10/7/2015 5:31:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It doesn't matter if they are friendly, it matters if they are useful. Many of the allies the US has had over the years weren't pro-US even at the best of times. If US policy regarding the Assad regime is to overthrow him, then there are limited number of resources to use to do this without direct US intervention. For those that think Assad is the strongman that Syria needs to hold things together, remember he is directly 100% responsible for the Syrian Civil War emerging from Arab Spring protests. Arab Spring: A Research & Study Guide, Syria Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I doubt those missiles are heading toward ISIS. Lying Russian bitches.... ISIS = armed muslim terrorists Syria moderates = armed muslim terrorists Assad forces = armed muslim terrorists Does not matter who you target in Syria, none of them are US-friendly. It doesn't matter if they are friendly, it matters if they are useful. Many of the allies the US has had over the years weren't pro-US even at the best of times. If US policy regarding the Assad regime is to overthrow him, then there are limited number of resources to use to do this without direct US intervention. For those that think Assad is the strongman that Syria needs to hold things together, remember he is directly 100% responsible for the Syrian Civil War emerging from Arab Spring protests. Arab Spring: A Research & Study Guide, Syria GRAPHIC VIDEO NSFW |
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Posted: 10/7/2015 5:40:27 PM EDT
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Putin is about to teach them a lesson about only the US holding back from bombing mosques. Russia don't play shit for cultural sensitivity. Eagerly awaiting the video showing that mosque and the surrounding area getting flattened. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Russian drone films ISIS militants hiding weapons, munitions near Syrian mosqueshttps://www.rt.com/news/317811-isis-moves-military-hardware/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lP4b47LaBJE Putin is about to teach them a lesson about only the US holding back from bombing mosques. Russia don't play shit for cultural sensitivity. Eagerly awaiting the video showing that mosque and the surrounding area getting flattened. The Putin will play to win. Obama plays to be seen playing, then goes golfing. |
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Posted: 10/7/2015 5:47:41 PM EDT
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My understanding is that all three major variants (anti-ship, land attack, and anti-submarine) are in service and have been for at least a couple of years. The Tatarstan also can carry 8. Between five ships, if all are so equipped, 40 missiles could be launched. One thing I found interesting was the use of the SS-N-12 for land attack. A few were used this way during the Russo-Georgian War, launched by the Moskva. I'm not sure there had been any indication of such a capability before, at least not that far inland (the older Styx proved the potential for attacking targets on the coast). Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Edited, ('cause I left the lab open without responding for a while,) to not point something out I thought you missed about numbers, but which you seem to have figured out. Yeah, my math was bad when I wrote that , however... the Russians said 4 ships fired 26 missiles. Which means they lied or another ship somewhere has VLS.Hmmmm. Looking around, it seems that Dagestan has VLS capable of accommodating 8 3K14s, but I was under the impression that the only variant in service was an anti-ship version, and that the land attack version wasn't in service. Perhaps I be wrong. Dport could probably correct me here, but alas, he is gone. My understanding is that all three major variants (anti-ship, land attack, and anti-submarine) are in service and have been for at least a couple of years. The Tatarstan also can carry 8. Between five ships, if all are so equipped, 40 missiles could be launched. One thing I found interesting was the use of the SS-N-12 for land attack. A few were used this way during the Russo-Georgian War, launched by the Moskva. I'm not sure there had been any indication of such a capability before, at least not that far inland (the older Styx proved the potential for attacking targets on the coast). Tartarstan only has Kh35 capability, and those lack the range. Dagestan's 3K14s are not the same as the 3M54s the three corvettes can carry. So max 32 for the flotilla onboard. |
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Posted: 10/7/2015 6:19:52 PM EDT
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 The missiles would have been the long range subsonic land attack version of the Klub cruise missile family. The Klub family is a modular family of different cruise missiles tasked for different roles depending on their motors and guidance systems. Some members of this family of missiles are used for attacking surface warships, and others for attacking submarines. Those that are used to attack surface warships typically skim close to the sea, but have a supersonic terminal phase. Those used to attack submarines are short range, sometimes supersonic, and launch a light anti-submarine torpedo into the sea near the point where the submarine has been spotted. The land attack version of the Klub used in this attack uses a combination of inertial and satellite guidance and in order to achieve a longer range (up to 2,500 km is claimed) uses a turbojet as opposed to a rocket engine to fly subsonically at Mach 0.8. Lastly, it is significant that the Russians have chosen to launch their missiles from the Caspian Sea rather than the Mediterranean (land based versions of long range cruise missiles are prohibited by the 1987 Intermediate Nuclear Forces ("INF”) Treaty). The choice of the Caspian Sea is dictated by the political situation. The US has very powerful fleet and intelligence assets in the Mediterranean - as do US allies such as Israel. Launching their missiles from the Caspian Sea enables the Russians to do so without outside observation or interference. http://russia-insider.com/en/military/how-and-why-russia-launched-its-cruise-missiles-against-isis/ri10315 |
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