[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Washington: King Co mandates all new apartment complexes have to have 10% electric car parking (Page 2 of 3)
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Quoted: Power generation doesnt do any good if the delivery system fails.  Power outages are mostly a thing for suburban, exurban and rural people who require miles of lines that already are costing the utility tens of thousands of dollars a month. Those people are last on the list for getting their power restored after a doug fir drops on it. If you’re in a denser area like where apartments are located your lines are more likely to be buried and they are a higher priority when service is down. |
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Quoted: Why don't these little tyrants buy their own complexes and configure their own parking? It's like they think that they own other people's property.  The larger problem is that cities will ban on street parking and require lots of off street parking at tremendous expense. |
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Quoted: So much this! Why does everything need to mandated and regulated by government??? Because government knows best.   Socialist always look to the government to solve all problems, or at least throw money at the problem so they can skim their cut off the top for themselves and their people.
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Quoted: Electric infrastructure in Washington is probably the best in the country. Quoted: Quoted: Fucking idiots completely ignore the fact that our power infrastructure absolutely cannot support the electric car only dream these morons have up here Electric infrastructure in Washington is probably the best in the country. So if the best can't even support it what does that say.... 
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Quoted: Wow, finally something Illinois can be proud of! Must be an oversight, we'll get right on it. Quoted: Wow, finally something Illinois can be proud of! Must be an oversight, we'll get right on it. 
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Quoted: Yes, but that allows no room for Democratic Socialism.  Liberalism destroys everything it touches - name anything positive that have come from the countless trillions spent on Socialist causes. Do you think parking minimums should be eliminated for new construction to allow for the markets influence to be more present? |
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Quoted: Until it does. The company that figures out the answer to this equation is the next xxx billion $ company. Quoted: Quoted: Fucking idiots completely ignore the fact that our power infrastructure absolutely cannot support the electric car only dream these morons have up here Until it does. The company that figures out the answer to this equation is the next xxx billion $ company. That’s a fact |
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I fail to understand the outrage here. Yeah, sure, it’d be better to let “the market”, whatever that means anymore, decide how many EV parking spots an apartment complex has, but we’re talking about a liberal city (which is damn near all of them) in a liberal state (which is damn near half of them). Cities mandating silly things is old news. A developer who doesn’t like the mandate is free to go build somewhere else… half a dozen will line up to build there instead. I might think that a lot of the people who drive EV’s are douches, but there’s no denying that the technology is maturing and represents the future. It’s not like we started using IC motor vehicles because we’d perfected oil drilling and refining and had some huge surplus of liquid fuels sitting around. Most city dwellers honestly would be better served having EV’s than IC’s. I’m all for offering amenities to city dwellers that attract them to cities and keep them there. |
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Quoted: That’s a fact Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Fucking idiots completely ignore the fact that our power infrastructure absolutely cannot support the electric car only dream these morons have up here Until it does. The company that figures out the answer to this equation is the next xxx billion $ company. That’s a fact And how long will that take? The problem is being legislated on a FF track. Is the solution development progressing at a similar rate? |
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Quoted: I fail to understand the outrage here. Yeah, sure, it’d be better to let “the market”, whatever that means anymore, decide how many EV parking spots an apartment complex has, but we’re talking about a liberal city (which is damn near all of them) in a liberal state (which is damn near half of them). Cities mandating silly things is old news. A developer who doesn’t like the mandate is free to go build somewhere else… half a dozen will line up to build there instead. I might think that a lot of the people who drive EV’s are douches, but there’s no denying that the technology is maturing and represents the future. It’s not like we started using IC motor vehicles because we’d perfected oil drilling and refining and had some huge surplus of liquid fuels sitting around. Most city dwellers honestly would be better served having EV’s than IC’s. I’m all for offering amenities to city dwellers that attract them to cities and keep them there. Yeah, sure, they forced me to watch them beat my parents to death with a baseball bat, rape my younger sister, boil my dog alive and burn down our house - but I fail to understand the outrage here. |
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If I rented an apartment that had a large percentage of parking spaces marked off for handicapped or EV's. I would either have a handicapped tag or a fake plug installed on my car so I could "plug" into the charging station. Who looks to see if a car is charging anyway if the "plug" is connected to a car in that spot. Too many spaces marked off for different BS. |
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Quoted: And, there are enough EV drivers that this would probably draw renters as an incentive. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Fucking idiots completely ignore the fact that our power infrastructure absolutely cannot support the electric car only dream these morons have up here Electric infrastructure in Washington is probably the best in the country. And, there are enough EV drivers that this would probably draw renters as an incentive. So the mandate is unnecessary. |
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Quoted: We’re talking about the generation capacity to handle EVs. Hydro is a good setup for that. The lines are a separate issue, until you’re willing to pay for buries lines there’s not much to be done about that. Quoted: Quoted: yeah okay bud.  wrong again... power goes out in Lakewood, Tacoma, Puyallup, University Place.. everywhere, so that dumbass argument is busted. We’re talking about the generation capacity to handle EVs. Hydro is a good setup for that. The lines are a separate issue, until you’re willing to pay for buries lines there’s not much to be done about that. You were talking about infrastructure and by the outage map it looks pretty poor compared to most states. |
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Quoted: That’s a fact Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Fucking idiots completely ignore the fact that our power infrastructure absolutely cannot support the electric car only dream these morons have up here Until it does. The company that figures out the answer to this equation is the next xxx billion $ company. That’s a fact There is no magic solution. It will take an outrageously huge amount of money to do what needs to be done if we go all electric. The technology exists. |
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Quoted: Fucking idiots completely ignore the fact that our power infrastructure absolutely cannot support the electric car only dream these morons have up here It can. If most people aren't allowed to have cars and those that do are using smart chargers that only allow them to charge when permitted to do so. |
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Quoted: I fail to understand the outrage here. Yeah, sure, it’d be better to let “the market”, whatever that means anymore, decide how many EV parking spots an apartment complex has, but we’re talking about a liberal city (which is damn near all of them) in a liberal state (which is damn near half of them). Cities mandating silly things is old news. A developer who doesn’t like the mandate is free to go build somewhere else… half a dozen will line up to build there instead. I might think that a lot of the people who drive EV’s are douches, but there’s no denying that the technology is maturing and represents the future. It’s not like we started using IC motor vehicles because we’d perfected oil drilling and refining and had some huge surplus of liquid fuels sitting around. Most city dwellers honestly would be better served having EV’s than IC’s. I’m all for offering amenities to city dwellers that attract them to cities and keep them there. If you fail to see the problem then you are part of it. Government should not mandate these things. I will grudgingly accept building standards for safety but this is well beyond that. |
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Quoted: I’m talking about generation capacity. The trees are tall sbd have shallow roots, thats a different issue. Quoted: Quoted: You were talking about infrastructure and by the outage map it looks pretty poor compared to most states. I’m talking about generation capacity. The trees are tall sbd have shallow roots, thats a different issue. No, you said infrastructure in your initial post. You are now backpedaling. It is ok to admit you were mistaken. |
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Quoted: Lol - power goes out more here than when I lived in Texas. Quoted: Quoted: Electric infrastructure in Washington is probably the best in the country. Lol - power goes out more here than when I lived in Texas. Agreed! I lived there for 22 years and 27 here in Southern Oklahoma and the power went off up there for days for alittle bit of wind. Down here our shit stands up to winds higher! And on top of that we got tornadoes on a yearly. And our shit is better than yalls there that fails if a strong gale blows thru. Deal with tornados and hurricanes. Tropical storms every year then get back with that weak ass statement |
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Quoted: Agreed! I lived there for 22 years and 27 here in Southern Oklahoma and the power went off up there for days for alittle bit of wind. Down here our shit stands up to winds higher! And on top of that we got tornadoes on a yearly. And our shit is better than yalls there that fails if a strong gale blows thru. Deal with tornados and hurricanes. Tropical storms every year then get back with that weak ass statement Something like 90% of down time here was from trees across the line or people crashing into pole. |