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Posted: 7/18/2023 7:19:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I like that he’s a nerd that got into and really good at shooting. It’s a refreshing change from the culture of former military instructors and the perception that unless one has combat experience they don’t know what they are talking about. Agreed. I learn all my solo CQB tactics from Lucas. |
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Posted: 7/18/2023 7:24:29 PM EDT
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Why would anyone here have a problem with him? His 2A stance appears unimpeachable and he runs a good business.
We've found the problem and it is us.... |
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Posted: 7/18/2023 7:58:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In this thread E-4 one pump wonders flex on a gun enthusiast whose done far more for the 2a community than their XXL 9 line shirt ever did Amen |
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Posted: 7/18/2023 11:22:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pound for pound, they are doing more for 2A than pretty much anyone. Oh get da flip outta here that's bs |
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Posted: 7/18/2023 11:35:56 PM EDT
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I have one of their holsters and it's very good. Other than that I don't know anything about them.
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Posted: 7/19/2023 1:26:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What % of arf.com are A class shooters? We're splitting hairs now on whether A class shooting is or isn't "high level"? Come on, guys.  When I was A class (M class now), I would do stand and shoots in public bays and people would stop shooting to watch because they were dumbfounded. They couldn't comprehend that handguns could be shot that accurately at that speed, and I didn't (still don't, for the most part) consider myself particularly good. Instagram has skewed what people consider good shooting, and High Hit Factors have crept up over the years. An A class shooter today would likely win Nationals in the 90s. The difference is the internet has enabled people to start at a higher level and get better faster. |
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Posted: 7/19/2023 3:33:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't recall the story exactly so pardon me if I don't get the facts entirely right. Anyway, about a year ago they came out their plate carrier. They advertised it as made in the USA. After they received them, they discovered that the subcontractor they hired farmed out the production to (IIRC) Mexico. Although the quality was fine, they fire-saled them at a steep discount. So, I can't speak to their religious practices. I also can't speak to if he speeds up his videos. However, I think they are pretty stand up business people. That’s the way they explained it…. Also want to add, he drives a 4Runner so he can’t be all that bad. One of the best videos he ever made was he sponsored an Air Soft shooter from Japan. Put a real 9mm in his hand and ran some courses with him. It was the first time the guy ever had a real firearm in his hands. The video was actually real good. |
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Posted: 7/19/2023 6:02:48 AM EDT
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I've bought a handful of holsters, and a few other products they sell. Thier plate carrier fit my wife better than her first spear since she is so small. They sell a lot of other good products. They have helped to normalize armor, short rifles, and NV. Lucas is very proficient and has an opinion. That makes people mad.
They are ultra based. They will continue to get my money. |
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Posted: 7/19/2023 10:30:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: One of the best videos he ever made was he sponsored an Air Soft shooter from Japan. Put a real 9mm in his hand and ran some courses with him. It was the first time the guy ever had a real firearm in his hands. The video was actually real good. 32 minute video, but amazing how well that kid did.  Can Airsoft Translate to Real Firearm Skill? |
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Posted: 7/19/2023 10:34:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I enjoy their videos, podcast and emails for 2nd amendment support. I also enjoy supporting a local business. Trex is based about an hour from me. And I do like to support my neighbors too. |
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Posted: 7/19/2023 10:35:25 AM EDT
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chicken wings
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Posted: 7/19/2023 10:39:08 AM EDT
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They had a deal recently where they gave you a free AC1 PC with purchase of a set of plates. I already had a nice PC, but needed the plates so figured having an extra PC wouldn't hurt.
Everything was smooth and shipped fast. And it turns out that I really like the AC1. That was my first shopping experience with them. The icing on the cake was there was some sort of brief questionnaire about whether or not you carry, 2a, etc. This gave an additional discount for being a good citizen or something to that effect. Great experience overall. I'll be spending more money with them in the future. |
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Posted: 7/19/2023 11:17:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 32 minute video, but amazing how well that kid did.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQDfwyUgtjgThat was fun video. Kid did great. |
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Posted: 7/19/2023 11:41:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That is a valid point and I agree. Even if he’s “only” A class, he’s extremely high level compared to the vast majority of the internet. Maybe a better point to make is that most people don’t know what a “true” high level shooter looks like. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What % of arf.com are A class shooters? We’re splitting hairs now on whether A class shooting is or isn’t “high level”? Come on, guys. That is a valid point and I agree. Even if he’s “only” A class, he’s extremely high level compared to the vast majority of the internet. Maybe a better point to make is that most people don’t know what a “true” high level shooter looks like. This is what good shooters look like
You guys are arguing about fast shooters who use huge targets |
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Posted: 7/19/2023 11:45:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is what good shooters look like
You guys are arguing about fast shooters who use huge targets Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: What % of arf.com are A class shooters? We’re splitting hairs now on whether A class shooting is or isn’t “high level”? Come on, guys. That is a valid point and I agree. Even if he’s “only” A class, he’s extremely high level compared to the vast majority of the internet. Maybe a better point to make is that most people don’t know what a “true” high level shooter looks like. This is what good shooters look like
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Posted: 7/19/2023 11:53:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 32 minute video, but amazing how well that kid did. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQDfwyUgtjgBack in 04, there was a Japanese shooter who used airsoft all year and then showed up a month before the steel challenge championships to use a real gun. He won. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tatsuya_Sakai_(marksman) |
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Posted: 7/19/2023 12:45:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is what good shooters look like
You guys are arguing about fast shooters who use huge targets Most accurate /= best... That's got to be one of the most boring shooting sports out there. |
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Posted: 7/19/2023 2:03:50 PM EDT
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I like their holsters own several.
Lucas when I met him he seemed like a solid dude. I know there’s a lot of he speeds up his video talk out there but from what I saw he’s a top notch shooter. Wish we had more people like him around. Never owned any of his products until meeting him wanted one after that. |
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Posted: 7/19/2023 2:06:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Most accurate /= best... That's got to be one of the most boring shooting sports out there. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This is what good shooters look like
You guys are arguing about fast shooters who use huge targets Most accurate /= best... That's got to be one of the most boring shooting sports out there. What is boring is sitting around for hours waiting for a minute of shooting. |
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Posted: 7/19/2023 2:08:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What is boring is sitting around for hours waiting for a minute of shooting. If you're not doing anything between when you shoot, you're probably not helping reset, and you're not going to shoot very well. |
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Posted: 7/19/2023 3:06:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you're not doing anything between when you shoot, you're probably not helping reset, and you're not going to shoot very well. Fudds don’t understand action pistol and never will. Let them have their boring ass B8s. Most of em are too fat to run anyways. |
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Posted: 7/19/2023 3:13:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is what good shooters look like
You guys are arguing about fast shooters who use huge targets A USPSA head box A zone is 2x4”, and the head box is total size is 6x6”. Is that huge? Now try shooting that at speed through a port kneeling or squatting and it’s 20 yards away. There’s a ton to action pistol shooting, much more than stand and shoot. You can keep your boring bullseye shooting. It’s gay. |
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Posted: 7/19/2023 3:14:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you're not doing anything between when you shoot, you're probably not helping reset, and you're not going to shoot very well. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What is boring is sitting around for hours waiting for a minute of shooting. If you're not doing anything between when you shoot, you're probably not helping reset, and you're not going to shoot very well. I shoot with one hand in my pocket. You should try it, it gives you something to do between shots. |
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Posted: 7/19/2023 3:16:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A USPSA head box A zone is 2x4”, and the head box is total size is 6x6”. Is that huge? Now try shooting that at speed through a port kneeling or squatting and it’s 20 yards away. There’s a ton to action pistol shooting, much more than stand and shoot. You can keep your boring bullseye shooting. It’s gay. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This is what good shooters look like
You guys are arguing about fast shooters who use huge targets A USPSA head box A zone is 2x4”, and the head box is total size is 6x6”. Is that huge? Now try shooting that at speed through a port kneeling or squatting and it’s 20 yards away. There’s a ton to action pistol shooting, much more than stand and shoot. You can keep your boring bullseye shooting. It’s gay. Lol, yes it is huge. |
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Posted: 7/19/2023 3:16:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I like their holsters own several. Lucas when I met him he seemed like a solid dude. I know there’s a lot of he speeds up his video talk out there but from what I saw he’s a top notch shooter. Wish we had more people like him around. Never owned any of his products until meeting him wanted one after that. Not so much anymore, because those people now realize how foolish and petty they look. |
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Posted: 7/19/2023 3:18:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: t rex what? Arms. They are shorter than they should be. |
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Posted: 7/19/2023 3:20:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol, yes it is huge. No it fucking isn’t considering that speed affects the scores. Let’s see your practiscore results? |
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Posted: 7/19/2023 3:25:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No it fucking isn’t considering that speed affects the scores. Let’s see your practiscore results? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Lol, yes it is huge. No it fucking isn’t considering that speed affects the scores. Let’s see your practiscore results? I don’t play that gun game. I play a different one, and yes, the target is huge.  Attached File |
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Posted: 7/19/2023 3:36:56 PM EDT
[#29]
Yawn. No time constraint, no stage planning, no problem solving, no movement. Boring AF.
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Posted: 7/19/2023 3:40:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yawn. No time constraint, no stage planning, no problem solving, no movement. Boring AF. No Walter Mitty fantasy, just show up, shoot, bust each others balls, go grab lunch and go home. |
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Posted: 7/19/2023 3:45:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They are 2A absolutists and are on our side |
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Posted: 7/19/2023 3:45:58 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No Walter Mitty fantasy, just show up, shoot, bust each others balls, go grab lunch and go home. That's cool, sounds like a great time. We do the same exact thing. Difference is that literally nobody cares about air pistol. |
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Posted: 7/19/2023 3:46:58 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Didn't Lucas work/help to get the Tennessee ammo tax repealed? This, unlike 99.9999% of other shit posted here, has had a direct impact on my life. For that alone, I appreciate his work and respect him. Personally, I don't give two shits about how well he shoots, how fast he does it, or anybody else's opinion about him. He spent his time and money to get the State of Tennessee to repeal a tax I was having to pay. Ain't none of you other mother fuckers done that. |
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Posted: 7/19/2023 3:51:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don’t play that gun game. I play a different one, and yes, the target is huge. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/513887/IMG_1708_jpeg-2891363.JPG Is the recoil of an actual firearm to much for you to handle? |
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Posted: 7/19/2023 4:00:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is the recoil of an actual firearm to much for you to handle? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I don’t play that gun game. I play a different one, and yes, the target is huge. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/513887/IMG_1708_jpeg-2891363.JPG Is the recoil of an actual firearm to much for you to handle? Give it up, just because you can’t hit what you aim at doesn’t mean you need to lash out. |
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Posted: 7/19/2023 4:13:37 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/19/2023 4:15:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Is the recoil of an actual firearm to much for you to handle? /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/temp-96.gif Let’s see some of your targets. |
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Posted: 7/19/2023 4:20:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Give it up, just because you can’t hit what you aim at doesn’t mean you need to lash out. I get acceptable hits, on the move, as fast as possible, all while handling an actual firearm... I dont care about shooting tiny groups with a handgun, even moreso an airgun. They have a far superior tool for making those slow precision shots... its called a rifle. When I want to shoot slow and precise, I go prone out with one... and even then, I hardly waste time shooting groups. |
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Posted: 7/19/2023 4:32:14 PM EDT
[#39]
We don’t take pics of targets or take them home we aren’t dorks. The holes get pasted over for the next shooter.
And we use real firearms. |
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Posted: 7/19/2023 4:35:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I get acceptable hits, on the move, as fast as possible, all while handling an actual firearm... I dont care about shooting tiny groups with a handgun, even moreso an airgun. They have a far superior tool for making those slow precision shots... its called a rifle. When I want to shoot slow and precise, I go prone out with one... and even then, I hardly waste time shooting groups. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Give it up, just because you can’t hit what you aim at doesn’t mean you need to lash out. I get acceptable hits, on the move, as fast as possible, all while handling an actual firearm... I dont care about shooting tiny groups with a handgun, even moreso an airgun. They have a far superior tool for making those slow precision shots... its called a rifle. When I want to shoot slow and precise, I go prone out with one... and even then, I hardly waste time shooting groups. Do you have your rifle with you at all times? |
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Posted: 7/19/2023 4:35:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We don’t take pics of targets or take them home we aren’t dorks. The holes get pasted over for the next shooter. And we use real firearms. lol, it’s ok, if you practice you might learn to shoot. |
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Posted: 7/19/2023 4:36:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hi boomer  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I don't watch his or any other gun tube videos and never have heard the company mentioned except in GD. Hi boomer Not a Boomer and I have no idea who he is either. |
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Posted: 7/19/2023 4:38:23 PM EDT
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Is this now an air pistol thread?
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Posted: 7/19/2023 4:41:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you have your rifle with you at all times? Nope, that's why I spend so much time becoming good at shooting a real handgun in a much more applicable manner... How often are you packing air? |
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Posted: 7/19/2023 4:43:23 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Nope, that's why I spend so much time becoming good at shooting a real handgun in a much more applicable manner... How often are you packing air? no No NO You MUST stand sideways to the target and slowly draw and present your sidearm to line up the perfect shot to sever the jugular of your attacker or else you are doing it all wrong |
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Posted: 7/19/2023 4:43:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Give it up, just because you can’t hit what you aim at doesn’t mean you need to lash out. If you can execute the fundamentals at speed, you can do it slow. Usually doesn't work well the other way around. |
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Posted: 7/19/2023 4:59:47 PM EDT
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Hating on air pistol target shooting is
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Posted: 7/19/2023 5:03:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hating on air pistol target shooting is Might as well do airsoft at that point. Could at least work on tactics. |
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Posted: 7/19/2023 5:07:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A USPSA head box A zone is 2x4”, and the head box is total size is 6x6”. Is that huge? Now try shooting that at speed through a port kneeling or squatting and it’s 20 yards away. There’s a ton to action pistol shooting, much more than stand and shoot. You can keep your boring bullseye shooting. It’s gay. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This is what good shooters look like
You guys are arguing about fast shooters who use huge targets A USPSA head box A zone is 2x4”, and the head box is total size is 6x6”. Is that huge? Now try shooting that at speed through a port kneeling or squatting and it’s 20 yards away. There’s a ton to action pistol shooting, much more than stand and shoot. You can keep your boring bullseye shooting. It’s gay. That’s a lot of words to say you can’t hit X rings at 50-yards |
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Posted: 7/19/2023 5:08:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hating on air pistol target shooting is It has nothing to do with this thread |
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