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Link Posted: 7/17/2017 2:05:13 PM EDT
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F8F Bearcat would kick all the OP's listed aircraft's ass in a 1v1.
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Yeah, so would an F-15E, neither saw combat in WW2 though.
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 2:08:16 PM EDT
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Went off half cocked.  See post below.
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 2:10:28 PM EDT
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my grandfather was a crew chief on P-38's in the Pacific. One of the brightest men I've ever known and if he had to work on them for years - and loved them the rest of his life - then that's plenty endorsement for me.

Plus I always appreciated the concentrated firepower and twin-engines!

ETA - my next two choices are Hellcat and Corsair, respectively. Just felt like adding that.
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Our grandfathers probably crossed paths over there.  Mine was a p-38 pilot.  

I think my poll choice is obvious.
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 2:11:25 PM EDT
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Obviously, P-38
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 2:27:09 PM EDT
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the 1945 /post war versions of these aircraft were pretty serious compared to the mass produced wartime models.

I'm talking better everything
look up the pics of the Korean model corsair vs.  the early models

I'm thinking P47N or later model Corsair with cannons
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 2:32:25 PM EDT
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I can't fault you for those choices, but mine Would be the f4u hands down. 

Fasterer than the hellcat, and more importantly, faster than most 109s. Not to mention faster than almost every IJN aircraft it would face. 

built to fight japs, so not quite as maneuverable as the the hellcat but much more maneuverable than a mustang or a high. plenty maneuverable for killin germans and Japs. 

Better read vicibility than the hellcat (admittedly not as much as some of the other options)

late war, I would try to get in a -1c variant... because quad AN/m2 20mm cannons...


Also, a little known fact. The brits fixed the corsairs carrier problems by fitting them with solid rubber wheels instead of normal inflated wheels. This was done quite by accedent when they ran out of corsair wheels and had to improvise with what they had on board for one of their bombers. 
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Hellcat, or Jugg

8 50 cals are better than 6
I can't fault you for those choices, but mine Would be the f4u hands down. 

Fasterer than the hellcat, and more importantly, faster than most 109s. Not to mention faster than almost every IJN aircraft it would face. 

built to fight japs, so not quite as maneuverable as the the hellcat but much more maneuverable than a mustang or a high. plenty maneuverable for killin germans and Japs. 

Better read vicibility than the hellcat (admittedly not as much as some of the other options)

late war, I would try to get in a -1c variant... because quad AN/m2 20mm cannons...


Also, a little known fact. The brits fixed the corsairs carrier problems by fitting them with solid rubber wheels instead of normal inflated wheels. This was done quite by accedent when they ran out of corsair wheels and had to improvise with what they had on board for one of their bombers. 
What he said.

F4U has always been my favorite
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 2:34:55 PM EDT
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The only piston engined plane to shoot down a MiG jet.
Developed during WW2 so it counts. Its not it's fault if the war ended early.



Link Posted: 7/17/2017 2:38:58 PM EDT
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I cast a vote in for the P38 in honor of my wife's later uncle Art   He flew them towards the end of WWII.  He was USAAC and then USAF.  Retired with the rank of Lt. Col. after serving 29 years when they wanted him to fly a desk for his last year.  Of all the planes he learned to fly, the P38 was his all time favorite aircraft to fly.  Just loved the things.  One of the really cool people I have met in my life.   Had some interesting UFO stories too.   They never officially reported them because you would be grounded for psyche evaluation if you did.  One of his buddies was one of the founders of the Confederate Air Force.  Art died a few years ago.
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 2:49:14 PM EDT
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Poll question specified 'US Fighters.'

If not I would have voted for the Spitfire.  Lacked range and compared to the P-51, but it was a consummate dogfighter in the hands of a pilot who knew how to use it.
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Link Posted: 7/17/2017 2:51:23 PM EDT
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P38 is one of the coolest looking aircraft of all time. 

I pick that, and dive in from above to avoid getting caught in a dogfight. 
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 2:53:47 PM EDT
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America's top ace, Richard Bong, flew a P-38.  I'll go with his choice.
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America's top ace, Richard Bong, flew a P-38.  I'll go with his choice.
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P38 is one of the coolest looking aircraft of all time. 
And that
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 2:54:39 PM EDT
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Poll fail.  Correct answer is All of the Above.  I think I had models of each plane listed in the poll when I was a kid.

I love the Corsair (Black Sheep Squadron FTW!) and the Mustang is a beautiful aircraft and excellent dogfighter.  P-47 would be awesome for survivability (radial engine, armor) and eight .50 calibers.  The P-40 is a sentimental favorite of mine, even if it wasn't the best fighter of the bunch (shark mouth Flying Tigers hell yeah).

In the end, I went with the P-38.  Fast, sexy, lots of power, and having the guns mounted in the nose vs. the wings means much better accuracy.   I think I read someplace the top ace of the war, Richard Bong, loved the P-38 because he could easily engage targets at 1000 yards in his P-38 with its nose mounted .50s, because wing mounted guns had to be angled toward the centerline of the plane, usually crossing at about 400 yards.
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 2:58:57 PM EDT
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Easy answer
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 3:03:04 PM EDT
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Sexiest Allied plane of the war.
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 3:05:16 PM EDT
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How many guesses you need?  
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 3:07:24 PM EDT
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You guys are being such a bunch of hipsters. P-51D is the only right answer.
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 3:12:52 PM EDT
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I voted, Corsair, out of pure ignorance.  My pure ignorance tells me I'd vote, Mustang if missions were strictly air to air. Thunderbolt if missions were air to surface.  

I did some work for a Thunderbolt pilot one time. Cool dude. He drove a chopped 40 Merc.  He said he strafed trains and convoys mostly. I've seen footage of trains getting strafed. I always wondered if the footage was from his camera.
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 3:13:27 PM EDT
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F4U-1D or -4.  The -1C with the 20mm's had issues.  I believed they switched manufacturers for the cannons they put in the -4B and the later versions.  But, the -4 was the last variant to see action in WWII.

Second choice would be P-47N.  Eight 50's and fuel for all week!
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 3:22:37 PM EDT
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You guys are being such a bunch of hipsters. P-51D is the only right answer.
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Richard Bong and Thomas McGuire say lol
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 3:27:41 PM EDT
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I wouldn't fight for Stalin.
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 3:45:20 PM EDT
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I like to hunt and drink beer at night with my friends.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_P-61_Black_Widow

The Northrop P-61 Black Widow, named for the American spider, was the first operational U.S. warplane designed as a night fighter, and the first aircraft designed to use radar.[2][3] The P-61 had a crew of three: pilot, gunner, and radar operator. It was armed with four 20 mm (.79 in) Hispano M2 forward-firing cannons mounted in the lower fuselage, and four .50 in (12.7 mm) M2 Browning machine guns mounted in a remote-controlled dorsal gun turret.
Sensors, gotta see em to hit em.
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 4:01:21 PM EDT
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I'm 6'3" tall and 230lbs. What do I fit in?
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a non-bulkhead 1st class seat in a 767
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 4:02:40 PM EDT
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F4U by a mile.
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 4:04:23 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/17/2017 4:07:31 PM EDT
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The poll results is how I would have ranked them. I always have a hard time between the P-51 and the P-38 though.
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 4:16:23 PM EDT
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Have you heard the story about the already crippled P-51 that was separated from his squadron, came under attack from a high scoring German ace in a Bf-109, survived the attack because the German ran out of ammo after pumping everything he had into the American's aircraft, and then the American safely limped back across the channel to England?

No. You haven't heard that story because the American was flying a P-47 Thunderbolt, his name was Robert Johnson, and he went on to kill 28 German aircraft.

The P-51 is among the most beautiful aircraft ever flown, but if my ass was going into harm's way, I'd choose the P-47 first.
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 4:17:13 PM EDT
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P-47 all day long. A great fighter as well as fighter-bomber when needed. None of the vulnerabiliy of the inline engine. Catch the enemy on the ground and in the air.
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 4:20:13 PM EDT
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F-Something or other modern jet.

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Link Posted: 7/17/2017 4:21:05 PM EDT
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F4U followed closely by F6F.

Water cooling is STUPID in a fighter aircraft.
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 4:25:34 PM EDT
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I always liked the F4U, so I chose that. The P-51 is the best looking though.
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 4:26:17 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/17/2017 4:27:15 PM EDT
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Guess I'm the only person that likes the p-40
It's my favorite plane
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 4:28:27 PM EDT
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The only piston engined plane to shoot down a MiG jet.
Developed during WW2 so it counts. Its not it's fault if the war ended early.



http://imgproc.airliners.net/photos/airliners/7/3/7/0306737.jpg?v=v40
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Um, not even close dude.  Maj. Jesse Fulmar downed a Mig-15 in his Corsair.  He nailed it with his 20mm Cannon flying off the USS Bataan, a light carrier.  His was the first ever jet kill by a piston engined fighter.

And folks should remember, the Hellcat, while a badass fighter, was built to fight pretty much one single fighter, the A6M Zero.  The Aleutian Zero was used to iron out the Hellcat.  Not the BF-109, not the FW-190, or God forbid the ME-262.  It was getting outclassed by the later Japanese designs, who's only downfall was too few, too late.  Had the war gone another year, with a Japan capable of sustained secret manufacturing, (and we found caves full of stuff after the war) the Hellcat likely would have been regulated to attack only missions or sent back home as advanced trainers.  

Or, as they were in Korea, flying bombs.  Drones controlled by Skyraiders.  

The Corsair though, soldiered on, killing piston engine and jet engine aircraft and being the Angel on a Marines (and plenty of dogfaces too) shoulder.  

Corsair all the way.  -1D or -4D.  Or be naughty and give me an AU-1.
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 4:30:44 PM EDT
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Historically accurate: P38

Not historically accurate: Corsair all day all night, baby!
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 4:31:48 PM EDT
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Years ago we had a P-47 at our little airshow.   I was surprised how big that machine was......and was even moar surprised how fast and nimble it was, for its size.    Amazing monster of a machine.  

P-47 hands down......and hope i have enuf gas to get home.    *_*
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 4:33:47 PM EDT
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P51, decision based on looks alone, sexiest prop plane ever.
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 4:36:58 PM EDT
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The P-47 was the WWII version of the A-10. Tough as nails for sure but I would still choose the Merlin engine in the P-51 frame.
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 4:41:19 PM EDT
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Like my grandfather, I'd choose the P-51D.  This is a picture of him in his.  He flew with the 384th FS/364th FG

Link Posted: 7/17/2017 4:43:42 PM EDT
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Count me in as a member of the F6F cult. :)
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 4:50:24 PM EDT
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The only piston engined plane to shoot down a MiG jet.
Developed during WW2 so it counts. Its not it's fault if the war ended early.



http://imgproc.airliners.net/photos/airliners/7/3/7/0306737.jpg?v=v40
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[Cough]Peter Carmichael[Cough] 

EDIT:  I should post this.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Carmichael
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 4:58:36 PM EDT
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Count me in as a member of the F6F cult. :)
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Count me in as a member of the F6F cult. :)
Me too!
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 5:02:05 PM EDT
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The F4U. It beat p-51s in air to air combat and itself.


The Last Dogfight

"The Last Dogfight

Ironically, history’s last known piston-engine dogfight was between two legendary American warbirds from the Second World War – the P-51 Mustang and the Corsair. When a brief shooting war broke out in July of 1969 between estranged neighbours El Salvador and Honduras following a series of bitterly contested World Cup qualifying-round soccer matches, both countries’ antiquated air forces took to the skies. On July 17, Honduran Vought F4U Corsairs engaged a flight of Salvadorian Goodyear FG-1D Corsairs and Cavalier Mustangs — militarized versions of civilian air racing P-51s. During the duel, a Honduran pilot named Fernando Soto shot down two of the Salvadorian planes. El Salvador continued to fly its surviving Corsairs into 1975; Honduras didn’t retire its fleet until 1979."
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 5:12:20 PM EDT
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Poll fail - Brewster Buffalo not included.
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Death Wish much?
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 5:18:53 PM EDT
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P38

Fast, turned, climbed, flew like a jet before it's time because of to counter rotating props.   Had there been more they would have been the fighter with the most kills.

For panache the P51.
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 5:40:32 PM EDT
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F6F-5N.

Cannons and machine guns ftw
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 6:34:53 PM EDT
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F4U-4.

Or if we're letting it slide by allowing planes that were built but didn't actually see combat action before the war ended, F2G-1 or AU-1.
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 6:38:10 PM EDT
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Death Wish much?
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Death Wish much?
Finnish Buffaloes did pretty well against the Soviets, but they also were much closer to the original Buffalo in weight than the ones that we were using.





Boyington on the Buffalo:

"It was a DOG!" (His emphasis). Then he slowly leaned back in his chair and after a moment quietly said, "But the early models, before they weighed it all down with armorplate, radios and other shit, they were pretty sweet little ships. Not real fast, but the little fucks could turn and roll in a phonebooth. Oh yeah--sweet little ship; but some engineer went and fucked it up."
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 6:41:11 PM EDT
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My real answer, if I got to pick...

Give me operations, Oscar Brand
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 7:01:08 PM EDT
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I voted, Corsair, out of pure ignorance.  My pure ignorance tells me I'd vote, Mustang if missions were strictly air to air. Thunderbolt if missions were air to surface.  

I did some work for a Thunderbolt pilot one time. Cool dude. He drove a chopped 40 Merc.  He said he strafed trains and convoys mostly. I've seen footage of trains getting strafed. I always wondered if the footage was from his camera.
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As I understand it the F4U outperformed the P51 except at high altitude.

Also the Spitfire.

P51 was a very capable high altitude fighter with excellent range. But 1v1 is was better then a number of others.
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 7:12:54 PM EDT
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Um, not even close dude.  Maj. Jesse Fulmar downed a Mig-15 in his Corsair.  He nailed it with his 20mm Cannon flying off the USS Bataan, a light carrier.  His was the first ever jet kill by a piston engined fighter.

And folks should remember, the Hellcat, while a badass fighter, was built to fight pretty much one single fighter, the A6M Zero.  The Aleutian Zero was used to iron out the Hellcat.  Not the BF-109, not the FW-190, or God forbid the ME-262.  It was getting outclassed by the later Japanese designs, who's only downfall was too few, too late.  Had the war gone another year, with a Japan capable of sustained secret manufacturing, (and we found caves full of stuff after the war) the Hellcat likely would have been regulated to attack only missions or sent back home as advanced trainers.  

Or, as they were in Korea, flying bombs.  Drones controlled by Skyraiders.  

The Corsair though, soldiered on, killing piston engine and jet engine aircraft and being the Angel on a Marines (and plenty of dogfaces too) shoulder.  

Corsair all the way.  -1D or -4D.  Or be naughty and give me an AU-1.
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F4F Wildcats were scoring a bit over 1:1 kill ratio against the Japanese in 1942. When you consider pilot survival rates it was a blowout in favor of the Americans.

The Japs had no chance. Their problem wasn't simply manufacturing but pilots.

Considering the context of WW2 combat the F6F would probably be the fighter to be in. It was the one that stomped the Japs. I believe F6Fs had by far the most kills of any allied fighter.
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