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Originally Posted By Loremsk:
So you've already done the comparative isotopic and crystallographic analysis of said glass? Do share your results with the class, please. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Loremsk:
Originally Posted By llanero: There's green glass all along the shore of Lake Superior. Must've been an airburst. No way it was lightning or anything like that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudbury_Basin |
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Still reading through it too. |
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Originally Posted By TxRabbitBane:
That would be catastrophic. Cataclysmic... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Originally Posted By waterglass:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANETpqZWmyc View Quote Hmmm. Kinda like the water runoff you might see after a global flood? |
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Originally Posted By 6GUNZ:
Erosion in Sphinx enclosure caused by water runoff? Hmmm. Kinda like the water runoff you might see after a global flood? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 6GUNZ:
Originally Posted By waterglass:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANETpqZWmyc Hmmm. Kinda like the water runoff you might see after a global flood? The great pyramid when it was covered in the polished white casing stones could be seen with the naked eye from space. A reflected imagine of it would have made it twice as bright. |
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Originally Posted By waterglass: Or many years of seasonal flooding of the Nile. Imagine a mirror image of the pyramids reflected by water. The Khafri pyramid enclosure also has major water erosion. The great pyramid when it was covered in the polished white casing stones could be seen with the naked eye from space. A reflected imagine of it would have made it twice as bright. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By 6GUNZ:
If the Nile flooded the foundations that would pretty much make it impossible to build anything there. Every year, your building site would be covered in water for months at a time, then when the waters receded they would leave a layer of silt that would have to be cleared away. And by the time you got the site ready to build again, it would almost be time for another flood. And that's to say nothing of actually trying to use the finished structure when it's foundations are underwater for months out of the year. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By 6GUNZ:
If the Nile flooded the foundations that would pretty much make it impossible to build anything there. Every year, your building site would be covered in water for months at a time, then when the waters receded they would leave a layer of silt that would have to be cleared away. And by the time you got the site ready to build again, it would almost be time for another flood. And that's to say nothing of actually trying to use the finished structure when it's foundations are underwater for months out of the year. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 6GUNZ:
Originally Posted By waterglass: Or many years of seasonal flooding of the Nile. Imagine a mirror image of the pyramids reflected by water. The Khafri pyramid enclosure also has major water erosion. The great pyramid when it was covered in the polished white casing stones could be seen with the naked eye from space. A reflected imagine of it would have made it twice as bright. |
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Originally Posted By waterglass: I think the entire complex was designed from the outset to be flooded artificially once completed and that they kept water there all year around. I think the three pyramids and a series of other structures were there for some pragmatic purpose and the causeways and shafts in the plateau were some kind of hydraulic system. View Quote |
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A good video of the Khafre pyramid. mute when he is in the wind for better experience.
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Originally Posted By waterglass:
A good video of the Khafre pyramid. mute when he is in the wind for better experience. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mAF-9tcbRI View Quote BEAUTIFUL VIDEO Peru Lost Ancient High Technology: Machu Pic'chu And Ollantaytambo |
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Originally Posted By TxRabbitBane: I always hear that, but can’t you see the tool marks on the stones where they were hand-fitted? Didn’t they also find numerous examples of the tools used in the fitting? Never underestimate the tenacity of folks without the distraction of internet pornography. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By 30calTBLkid:
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Originally Posted By TxRabbitBane: I always hear that, but can’t you see the tool marks on the stones where they were hand-fitted? Didn’t they also find numerous examples of the tools used in the fitting? Never underestimate the tenacity of folks without the distraction of internet pornography. He just naysays, but doesn't post anything up. Even when he makes claims, he doesn't back it up with anything. |
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I'll go with a much simpler and more humanistic theory.
The king that was directing all the fine craftsmanship died, and his lazy son came into power saying, "Screw my father's ways, we must complete these walls before the GREAT _____ is upon us. Get the smaller stones and stack them using mortar!" |
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Originally Posted By DDalton:
I'll go with a much simpler and more humanistic theory. The king that was directing all the fine craftsmanship died, and his lazy son came into power saying, "Screw my father's ways, we must complete these walls before the GREAT _____ is upon us. Get the smaller stones and stack them using mortar!" View Quote |
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Originally Posted By HEATSEAKER:
And then the skilled tradesmen eventually die off without leaving any trained apprentices behind to carry on the legacy so the most economical, fastest, and soulless way of building things become the new normal.. See plenty of examples of this in our own Western culture. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By HEATSEAKER:
Originally Posted By DDalton:
I'll go with a much simpler and more humanistic theory. The king that was directing all the fine craftsmanship died, and his lazy son came into power saying, "Screw my father's ways, we must complete these walls before the GREAT _____ is upon us. Get the smaller stones and stack them using mortar!" ETA to add a link to the story. The locals swear by it and even point to where the remains are. https://www.tajmahal.org.uk/legends/black-taj.html |
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This thread is for fans of Erich von Daniken.
It was great craftsmen of the age that built them. This may come as a shock but the only thing that really separates us from the ancient humans is our technological advancement. Very smart and skilled humans existed back then. |
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Originally Posted By DDalton:
I'll go with a much simpler and more humanistic theory. The king that was directing all the fine craftsmanship died, and his lazy son came into power saying, "Screw my father's ways, we must complete these walls before the GREAT _____ is upon us. Get the smaller stones and stack them using mortar!" View Quote |
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Originally Posted By waterglass:
https://www.theepochtimes.com/150000-year-old-pipes-baffle-scientists-in-china-out-of-place-in-time_748970.html?sidebar=related-below View Quote I don't know where they get the sources for things earlier than written history though, just accepted as fact in general? The dating was done using thermoluminescence, a technique that determines how long ago crystalline mineral was exposed to sunlight or heated. Humans are only thought to have inhabited the region for the past 30,000 years. Even within the known history of the area, the only humans to inhabit the region were nomads whose lifestyle would not leave any such structures behind. They say only nomads that left no structures behind lived there, in the same paragraph as stating the pyramids and pipes to the lake are 150k years old. I know dating is off, but by how far? The spark plug geode is an odd example, to have the markings exact but be from a modern time and embedded in rock. I don't know how a pyramid with plumbing would have naturally formed. |
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Originally Posted By brass:
Good article. I like out of place artifacts since they make no sense. I don't know where they get the sources for things earlier than written history though, just accepted as fact in general? The dating was done using thermoluminescence, a technique that determines how long ago crystalline mineral was exposed to sunlight or heated. Humans are only thought to have inhabited the region for the past 30,000 years. Even within the known history of the area, the only humans to inhabit the region were nomads whose lifestyle would not leave any such structures behind. They say only nomads that left no structures behind lived there, in the same paragraph as stating the pyramids and pipes to the lake are 150k years old. I know dating is off, but by how far? The spark plug geode is an odd example, to have the markings exact but be from a modern time and embedded in rock. I don't know how a pyramid with plumbing would have naturally formed. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By brass:
Good article. I like out of place artifacts since they make no sense.
I don't know where they get the sources for things earlier than written history though, just accepted as fact in general? The dating was done using thermoluminescence, a technique that determines how long ago crystalline mineral was exposed to sunlight or heated. Humans are only thought to have inhabited the region for the past 30,000 years. Even within the known history of the area, the only humans to inhabit the region were nomads whose lifestyle would not leave any such structures behind. They say only nomads that left no structures behind lived there, in the same paragraph as stating the pyramids and pipes to the lake are 150k years old. I know dating is off, but by how far? The spark plug geode is an odd example, to have the markings exact but be from a modern time and embedded in rock. I don't know how a pyramid with plumbing would have naturally formed. Stone incased toads always interested me. on an unrelated note you may remember I posted the huge pre greek polygonal walls in Italy. I think these ones in Japan are very similar. The technology in Japan also goes back into prehistory. The function is the same. They are earth quake proof. Note I do not vouch for the narration, but the video does a good job of showing scale and the polygonal features of the walls. Mute them if you do not like them. Gigantic Polygonal Masonry Found At Osaka Castle? Ancient Advanced "Mega-City" Hidden In Japan? This channel has quite a few videos on OOPARTs. |
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Originally Posted By waterglass:
There is a lot of legit mystery in the world if you look for it. I was addicted to reading about ooparts as a kid. Raining frogs, modern looking stuff supposedly found in coal and stone, eternal lamps found in toms, The light bowls that were once suspended from the ceilings of churches, architecture and the possibility of suppressed understanding of gathering electric current from the atmosphere using domes and spires etc. Stone incased toads always interested me. on an unrelated note you may remember I posted the huge pre greek polygonal walls in Italy. I think these ones in Japan are very similar. The technology in Japan also goes back into prehistory. The function is the same. They are earth quake proof. Note I do not vouch for the narration, but the video does a good job of showing scale and the polygonal features of the walls. Mute them if you do not like them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgiAVpyaPYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dINpSV2aSkk View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By waterglass:
Originally Posted By brass:
Good article. I like out of place artifacts since they make no sense.
I don't know where they get the sources for things earlier than written history though, just accepted as fact in general? The dating was done using thermoluminescence, a technique that determines how long ago crystalline mineral was exposed to sunlight or heated. Humans are only thought to have inhabited the region for the past 30,000 years. Even within the known history of the area, the only humans to inhabit the region were nomads whose lifestyle would not leave any such structures behind. They say only nomads that left no structures behind lived there, in the same paragraph as stating the pyramids and pipes to the lake are 150k years old. I know dating is off, but by how far? The spark plug geode is an odd example, to have the markings exact but be from a modern time and embedded in rock. I don't know how a pyramid with plumbing would have naturally formed. Stone incased toads always interested me. on an unrelated note you may remember I posted the huge pre greek polygonal walls in Italy. I think these ones in Japan are very similar. The technology in Japan also goes back into prehistory. The function is the same. They are earth quake proof. Note I do not vouch for the narration, but the video does a good job of showing scale and the polygonal features of the walls. Mute them if you do not like them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgiAVpyaPYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dINpSV2aSkk If you run across more like these post them up. I think a lot is more related than other sources seem, since many "mainstream" sources scarcely mention these castles, and if so, nothing about their age or unique bits about them. Going by the normal fare, the only large block structures from pre-history are the Pyramids and Stonehenge. Even more on those carved caves in India isn't easy to locate beyond photos here and there. Most all the photos usually have a sort of aliens or other mysterious power theory packaged with them, but it's easy enough to discard that wrapper by hitting mute or just ignoring the commentary beyond location. |
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Originally Posted By brass: Thanks. I love these types of videos. See all sorts of unique things across the world that just aren't covered anywhere else in an easily accessible way. I don't always buy their theories, but the stuff shown is always impressive and inspiring for thought experiments on what would be involved. If you run across more like these post them up. I think a lot is more related than other sources seem, since many "mainstream" sources scarcely mention these castles, and if so, nothing about their age or unique bits about them. Going by the normal fare, the only large block structures from pre-history are the Pyramids and Stonehenge. Even more on those carved caves in India isn't easy to locate beyond photos here and there. Most all the photos usually have a sort of aliens or other mysterious power theory packaged with them, but it's easy enough to discard that wrapper by hitting mute or just ignoring the commentary beyond location. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By waterglass:
There is a lot of legit mystery in the world if you look for it. I was addicted to reading about ooparts and such as a kid. Raining frogs, modern looking stuff supposedly found in coal and stone, eternal lamps found in toms, The light bowls that were once suspended from the ceilings of churches, architecture and the possibility of suppressed understanding of gathering electric current from the atmosphere using domes and spires etc. Stone incased toads always interested me. on an unrelated note you may remember I posted the huge pre greek polygonal walls in Italy. I think these ones in Japan are very similar. The technology in Japan also goes back into prehistory. The function is the same. They are earth quake proof. Note I do not vouch for the narration, but the video does a good job of showing scale and the polygonal features of the walls. Mute them if you do not like them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgiAVpyaPYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dINpSV2aSkk This channel has quite a few videos on OOPARTs. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By 6GUNZ:
I noticed some of those weird little nodes on the Japanese stones. I would just love to know what those were for. Doesn't make any sense that they were used for lifting, but they must have had some purpose. The really strange thing is that they didn't shave them off after they were done for a clean look. Suggests their purpose was ongoing and not just for construction. View Quote Maybe they act as a male socket to reset the stones in case they move during a quake. Or maybe they were used as a way to measure the angle of the wall somehow I dunno |
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Crystal balls bro.
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View Quote It was the best way to learn things not covered in general knowledge books 40 years ago. Even today it's not easy to find some of the info tied together so well, locations, sizes, etc. Need to research a lot just to get those details, even the whacky theories have bits of facts in them, which is more educational than watching American Idol. --ETA: The dowsing rod test was funny, at any rate (4 minutes in). |
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Originally Posted By brass: That series (In Search Of...) was the grandaddy of the UFO and Ancient Aliens stories. Especially after the "Chariots of the Gods" book made a stir, so the show played on that interest. It was the best way to learn things not covered in general knowledge books 40 years ago. Even today it's not easy to find some of the info tied together so well, locations, sizes, etc. Need to research a lot just to get those details, even the whacky theories have bits of facts in them, which is more educational than watching American Idol. --ETA: The dowsing rod test was funny, at any rate (4 minutes in). View Quote |
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Originally Posted By waterglass: That is mainly why I posted it. That dowsing rod bit was hilarious. Even he had trouble keeping a strait face. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By headstoner:
Hahahaha my brother and his wife fell for that kooky shit, I told them their is a low spot right there-------> and it looks damp. Their well ended up being almost 400 feet deep because they did the dowsing rod thing and drilled a high spot. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By headstoner:
Originally Posted By waterglass: That is mainly why I posted it. That dowsing rod bit was hilarious. Even he had trouble keeping a strait face. |
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Cycles....
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Some good video of Baalbek. I don't vouch for his theories and statements beyond the fact that it may be partially pre roman.
Baalbek In Lebanon Some video from the Quarries of Baalbek That might be useful to headstoner to glean how they were cutting the stones. Baalbek Live Baalbek Quarry Part 2 |
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Originally Posted By waterglass:
Some good video of Baalbek. I don't vouch for his theories and statements beyond the fact that it may be partially pre roman. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwiCgwY-OW8 Some video from the Quarries of Baalbek That might be useful to headstoner to glean how they were cutting the stones. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I88ZTt62eA8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piZDkpnBF2s View Quote I thought I saw some semi-circular cuts as well, that would make me believe a drill was used. The video is good but not really geared towards getting close up footage of marks and such for any definitive assessment. Edit: ...but I do see some tires in that second video so the mystery of transporting has been solved. |
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Originally Posted By headstoner:
My guess would be cable saws on a lot of it, that would be the quickest and easiest way to make those large cuts. In the 2nd baalbec video where he says probably an atempt by romans to cut out some smaller stones you see the outside is cut deeper than the inside, if you ran a straight line from the outside to the top of the inside it looks like the depths would line up indicating that something was used in a straight line ( cable under tension). I thought I saw some semi-circular cuts as well, that would make me believe a drill was used. The video is good but not really geared towards getting close up footage of marks and such for any definitive assessment. Edit: ...but I do see some tires in that second video so the mystery of transporting has been solved. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By headstoner:
Originally Posted By waterglass:
Some good video of Baalbek. I don't vouch for his theories and statements beyond the fact that it may be partially pre roman. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwiCgwY-OW8 Some video from the Quarries of Baalbek That might be useful to headstoner to glean how they were cutting the stones. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I88ZTt62eA8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piZDkpnBF2s I thought I saw some semi-circular cuts as well, that would make me believe a drill was used. The video is good but not really geared towards getting close up footage of marks and such for any definitive assessment. Edit: ...but I do see some tires in that second video so the mystery of transporting has been solved. |
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Originally Posted By headstoner: My guess would be cable saws on a lot of it, that would be the quickest and easiest way to make those large cuts. In the 2nd baalbec video where he says probably an atempt by romans to cut out some smaller stones you see the outside is cut deeper than the inside, if you ran a straight line from the outside to the top of the inside it looks like the depths would line up indicating that something was used in a straight line ( cable under tension). I thought I saw some semi-circular cuts as well, that would make me believe a drill was used. The video is good but not really geared towards getting close up footage of marks and such for any definitive assessment. Edit: ...but I do see some tires in that second video so the mystery of transporting has been solved. View Quote How much tension and reciprocating speed would you need for cable cutting? He will be putting out higher quality video in a few weeks. There is tool marks in Lebanon and Jordan that I think you will be able to identify maybe. |
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Originally Posted By waterglass:
Yup, an RGN moved em. How much tension and reciprocating speed would you need for cable cutting? He will be putting out higher quality video in a few weeks. There is tool marks in Lebanon and Jordan that I think you will be able to identify maybe. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By headstoner:
You don't really need any tension other than what is needed to keep the cable tracking where you want it , the weight of the cable (today's cables) is plenty to cut granite. Speed isn't really a factor that determines ability to cut, only the speed of the cutting but that would also depend on what the "cable" is made of and what is used for the abrasive and how it may or may not be attached to the cable. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By headstoner:
Originally Posted By waterglass:
Yup, an RGN moved em. How much tension and reciprocating speed would you need for cable cutting? He will be putting out higher quality video in a few weeks. There is tool marks in Lebanon and Jordan that I think you will be able to identify maybe. |
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Originally Posted By waterglass: If you could see the cut marks would it give you an idea of the speed of the cable? The Romans had the basics of a steam engines, but there is no proof they ever used them. View Quote Here's a fairly simple saw being used to cut a stone, you can see there is no need for much tension other than enough to provide a true tracking line and it is running pretty fast with close diamond segments so tool marks would be minimun ( a lot of times the marks come from inconsistency in the cutting, vibrations, jerking motions, disc saws wobbling, and uneven segments) Cutting basalt, marble, granite with a DIY wire saw made of a vehicle hoist Even without the use of engines, proper gearing could provide more speed at the work than what is needed to drive the saw. Think large pulley small pulley. |
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Originally Posted By headstoner:
Sometimes. It might show if something straight or curved was used, a cable might show either depending if it was supported by wheels away from the work or if it was used in a back and forth motion like a cable saw used to cut a tree limb. Here's a fairly simple saw being used to cut a stone, you can see there is no need for much tension other than enough to provide a true tracking line and it is running pretty fast with close diamond segments so tool marks would be minimun ( a lot of times the marks come from inconsistency in the cutting, vibrations, jerking motions, disc saws wobbling, and uneven segments) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpaHY2RygGQ Even without the use of engines, proper gearing could provide more speed at the work than what is needed to drive the saw. Think large pulley small pulley. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By headstoner:
Originally Posted By waterglass: If you could see the cut marks would it give you an idea of the speed of the cable? The Romans had the basics of a steam engines, but there is no proof they ever used them. Here's a fairly simple saw being used to cut a stone, you can see there is no need for much tension other than enough to provide a true tracking line and it is running pretty fast with close diamond segments so tool marks would be minimun ( a lot of times the marks come from inconsistency in the cutting, vibrations, jerking motions, disc saws wobbling, and uneven segments) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpaHY2RygGQ Even without the use of engines, proper gearing could provide more speed at the work than what is needed to drive the saw. Think large pulley small pulley. |
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