Because that’s who the msm wants as that’s who they have been pushing.

Boom

Sorry greybars, there's no gaslighting away the shit we see on a daily basis. Your boy is going to lose. Your peeps are gonna have to stuff even harder and everyone knows it. Not looking good for team dem.

@lokifox

This is totally worth the watch with Thomas Massie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omBSEuFTYEo

Ayup.  

The problem is that Trump has already proven from the 2016 campaign that say one thing and do the exact opposite.   Not look at a campaign promise as being "flexible", but do the outright opposite.  He says what you want to hear, but governs like a Democrat unless he is FORCED to toe the GOP line by "RINOs" (such as being restricted by McConnell to certain choices for USSC vacancies).  Biden campaigns left and governs left.  So going by words, of course Trump sounds better.  Unfortunately, going by Trump's statements and actions once in office, he is at best only fractionally more conservative than Biden.

As has been pointed out, this is a historic chance to choose between two candidates who each have a Presidential record.  Trump's words do not reflect his actions, and some of us vote based on actions, not words.

sO wHaT aRe yOu gOiNg tO SpeNd yOuR soCiAlIsm ChECKs oN?….  wHeRe dId ThIs iNFlAtiOn CoMe FrOm!

So Trump’s actions have no part in rampant inflation?

Nailed it.

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"Duhyup, Imma vote turd party"

Correct. It’s all Biden’s fault.

Got damn

.... and read these:

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Ayup.

And trump put people like Larry fink & Bob Iger on his advisory board, and hired Wilbur Ross  

https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-strategy-policy-forum/


I see we have Larry here — where is Larry Fink?  Larry did a great job for me.  He managed a lot of my money, and, I have to tell you, he got me great returns last year.  (Laughter.)  And then they go crazy — they’ll meet very smart people that made money, why don’t you let other people to run the economy?  I said, no, we have to get the right people.  And the people that voted for me understand that, and that’s what they want.

So when I campaigned for office, I promised the American people that I’d ask for our country’s best and brightest, and we have that.  Wilbur is representing us as secretary.  I tell you, you’re going to be so great — Secretary of Commerce, Wilbur Ross.  In fact, Carl Icahn got called up, and he goes, I hear you got Wilbur.

Everybody calls him Wilbur.  I’ve never heard him called — what, we just know him as Wilbur, right?  We’ve got the great Jack Welch, the legendary Jack Welch.  We appreciate him.



Totally not a globalist and an outsider

There's those uncomfortable facts again.

A pound of shitty Walmart ground beef in the plastic tube is almost $8.

10 lb sack of Walmart sugar is over $8.

Here's the facts Jack.
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Now you're moving the goalpost.  For the record his picks were WAY less than satisfying.  He ignored the bureaucracy and it was his demise in the first term. He failed to understand a Congress, populated with both Republican and Democrats, that created a self enrichment grift.  At the end of the day we both know the quick fix, and there can be a quick fix, is starving The Beast.  Federal Government needs to be cut by 2/3rds.  Name one one American citizens that could achieve that task.  The truth is since 1946 every Unitary Executive has been running around on the deck of the Titanic, some rearranging chairs and others creating gaping holes.

I don’t think of it as moving the goal posts.  People here are swooned into believing that trump is an outsider and isn’t a globalist.  There just so happens to be a sea of proof that shows the opposite is true… yet confirmation bias won’t let people see it for what it is


I agree with the rest of your post. We have a true representative government.


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Get outta here with your facts and logic!!! Sorry your girl lost!!

Trump is going to reverse all the bad stuff he did while in office to make America great again bro. He promises. You’ll see.

Fair.  So here we are five months away from a binary choice.

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Ayup. Same as it’s been for the last 100+ years.  The candidates just get shittier and shittier, while the scope of government continues to grow and the BoR continues to erode.

One need not wonder why we go further and further down the drain.


ETA:  it’s sobering to see an interview with one of the greatest statesmen this country has seen(certainly one of the only good ones in office today) only get to 4 pages.… yet if it’s about one of the blithering idiots running for president it’s on fire and 10+ pages.  We are going the way of the the Roman’s with the entertainment and perversion shit.

Not sure why he would do that.  Lower my damned taxes first.  I worked restaurants when younger and every person over about 25 worked there to hide money from the IRS or an ex.

I’m aware of the ROE in Trumplandia. Inconvenient facts of the 45th presidency you can’t dispute just get labeled MSNBC talking points. And then you call the poster a liar. None of which rates consideration for any of the nonsense.

I was promised I’d get tired of all the winning. All we ended up getting was excuses.

You ignoring his fuck ups  does not make them real.

Trump is not Joe. That’s all you really got. He’s the lesser of two evils. We can’t vote Joe the fuck up, so we get to vote for the orange fuck up.

It’s quite literally a race to the bottom.

Again, totally agree.  But the 10+ pages for the Presidential Election Race is consequential for all American Citizens, one only needs to look at the Executive Orders that the current Rotting Bag of Oatmeal that resides at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.  Every single EO enacted by the Piece of Shit has been designed to destroy what's left of the carcass of this Republic. This, I believe, is where the binary choice works in the favor of the American Citizen, albeit in a small way, by simple reversal of all Biden's EOs with the change in occupancy at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

Nikki Haylee is not going to be President.  Sorry your girl lost.

I would think a congressman shedding light on the real corruption in our government would be consequential for all Americans… yet here we are.

We saw the same thing when RP was on the debate stage, a true intellectual to say the least that no one could debate. And the washed masses pushed him aside for more bull shit rhetoric & entertainment. It’s quite astonishing really.

One is marginally better than the other no doubt.  That doesn’t change the fact that under both the government will grow and the BoR will continue to erode.  It’s a game where you lose no matter what.  

I hate that we call those comedy shows “debates”. Nothing about them is debating or intelligent discussion.

RP would have made a great POTUS.

Boom Part Deux

Ayup.  All that matters to the average American voting cattle is entertainment value.

Nobody said anything about her.

Deflection, denial, and excuses.

Like another poster said, it’s nothing but a 2 party race to the bottom these days. Our electorate has proven itself incapable of choosing its own representation and our entire primary system is well past due for a complete overhaul.

We are on the same page.

Not at all, a total swamp cleaner:

Swamp "Best People" hired by Trump (this is the short list)

1) Jared Kushner/Trump son-in-law, Soros business partner (w/his anti-2A donating brother) to the tune of $500,000,000. A regular guest at Soros' home with "beautiful Ivanka". He was appointed highest presidential adviser for 4 years. Helped get Israel $360 billion dollar check for Trump to sign at lightning speed (first year).

2) Bill Barr - attorney general/highest law enforcement position. He was George HW Bush's AG and drafted the domestic assault weapons ban and mag ban for Bush's crime bill in 1991 which ended up part of Clinton's Brady Bill and ban. He publicly stated he was in favor of a permanent mag ban as well as Bush's 1989 AW import ban.

3) democrat General Mattis. 'Nuff said?

4) globalist Rothschild banking head Wilber Ross. Rothschild bank bailed the Trump corporation out of failure in the early 1990s and Wilber was "da man". His reward was Commerce Secretary.

5) at least 6 Goldman Sachs banking corporate heads to White House advisory positions. (And Ted Cruz would be "owned" by GS because his wife had a position there according to Trump - LOL!)

6) Chuck Canteberry picked by Trump to head BATFE. When pro-2A groups reached out to Trump's office with info that Canteberry was anti-gun, Trump pushed for him anyway. Canteberry had so much anti-2A history that even RINO Republicans pushed so that he would not be appointed.

7) Trump left ALL Obama appointees at ATF for his entire term.

8) Appointed openly homosexual Richard Grinnel as ambassador to Germany and then continues to use him to shove the gay agenda down the throats of Republican party by hosting and promoting the gay Log Cabin Republican events at Mar-a-Lago. (Gee, Trump still hasn't sprung $300 for a conference room at Holiday Inn for the first Second Amendment Coalition meeting - still holding on to that supporter-donated $250 million to Stop the Steal).

9) Who was the "best people" in charge of the Second Amendment Coalition??? Big promise two months before the election with promises by Don Sr. and Jr. yet the the coalition page taken down from Trump's website months after he is sworn into office. Firearms industry people chosen to be involved NEVER heard from the Trumps again.

10) Leftwing medical dictator Fauchi left in charge (threatened doctors with loss of license of the prescribed Hydroxiclorequine or Ivermectin which saved lives). "Nobody better try and hurt him." - DJT

11) Fatass anti-2A NJ values Chris Christie was a Trump bestie early on.

12) General Mark Miley who is so left-leaning that many Trumpers think Biden appointed him - LOL!

"buH, deY aLL tUrNEd oN TrUMp..."

Sure, he will drain the swamp next time...

Keep up Corky.  The discussion has moved beyond your pathetic attempt to shape a MSNBC narrative.

Those NODs are not going to pay for themselves.

Not in Trumplandia.

I have returned to the thread to provide just that. Thank you for waiting.

Yes, prices for many durable goods can and will go down with a republican president in office. The reason is that the price of everything in this country is dependent on the cost of oil. There are many actions a president can take that can have an effect on oil prices. Some take time, others can be done instantly with a phone call or the stroke of a pen. Yes, inflation is bad and much damage has already been done, but if the screws were backed off JUST A LITTLE, watch and see what the economy would do. Imagine if the cost of gasoline or diesel dropped one whole dollar or more per gallon, what vast effects that would have nationally and even globally. We just need someone to pull the strangling hands off of our neck - and yes, that someone could be President Trump.

lol at the cope.

Embarrassing.

Keto fail!

Trump is keto. He eats pizza with a knife and fork so he can avoid the crust.

Quick scroll summary:

Trump not perfect.

Biden total disaster.

Hmm tough choice.

That's it?

I don’t think Trump can just wave his finger and lower the price of oil. Not overnight and not long term. Oil and gas prices fluctuate for many reasons and most of them are not within a presidents control.

Will to prices be lower under a president with an R by his name? Usually that is the case but it never holds. The prices are manipulated to make people rich not so you can have cheaper eggs.

Besides. What happens to the labor cost? Those people who are being paid more to show up now because they have to pay more for goods and services are not going to accept a cut in pay because gas is cheaper. You start cutting wages people walk off the job.

“The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design.” -F.A. Hayek

The sooner people understand that economics isn’t something can be controlled, the better off we’ll be.

Bingo. I get why Trump appeals to people, and I loathe Biden and his team. But Trump is literally responsible for the inflation we're experiencing. Biden is too, of course. The idea that Trump is going to fix it, absent some specific plan, is silly. Reagan shut down the inflation of the Carter era (in fairness, Carter did the same thing, but too late to matter), and he did so knowing he would cause unemployment as a side effect. But he ripped the bandaid off and it all worked out. I cannot imagine Trump having the iron will it would take to do that.

Rent Free.