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Posted: 8/21/2021 2:37:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Fooboy]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bradd_D: Battlewerx is lower.  I'm officially AIWB now boys!  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/21/2021 4:14:09 PM EDT
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https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/I-did-something-gross-Red-Dot-on-a-G43-/5-2480690/
Put a deltapoint micro on my G43, come make fun of how stupid it looks. |
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Posted: 8/21/2021 7:34:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Hydra-shokz]
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Originally Posted By Fooboy: Always has been I'm officially AIWB now boys! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/113559/F1547429-461E-4C2F-9C40-79FD9AE56CD9_jpe-2060816.JPG 
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Posted: 8/21/2021 9:13:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fooboy: Always has been I'm officially AIWB now boys! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/113559/F1547429-461E-4C2F-9C40-79FD9AE56CD9_jpe-2060816.JPG What holster? |
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Posted: 8/21/2021 9:16:41 PM EDT
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JM custom kydex
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Posted: 8/22/2021 5:56:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fooboy: JM custom kydex
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Posted: 8/22/2021 8:06:02 PM EDT
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Somebody that’s more knowledgeable than I am …
If I have my Slide milled for a Holosun (that I already have), can I mount a Trijicon RMR or SRO? With an adapter? |
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Posted: 8/23/2021 10:18:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Warhawk: Somebody that’s more knowledgeable than I am … If I have my Slide milled for a Holosun (that I already have), can I mount a Trijicon RMR or SRO? With an adapter? I'm sure somebody will correct me if I'm wrong, but if I'm not mistaken the Holosun 407C & 507C mounts on the RMR pattern. Shouldn't need an adapter if you decide to upgrade later. |
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Posted: 8/24/2021 6:37:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Warhawk: Somebody that’s more knowledgeable than I am … If I have my Slide milled for a Holosun (that I already have), can I mount a Trijicon RMR or SRO? With an adapter? The mounting footprint is the same in the RMR/SRO & 507/407. However, most places that mill will ask you whether ryou're mounting a Trijicon or Holosun product because the screw length will be different. They may provide you different screws based on which optic you're running. |
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Posted: 8/24/2021 6:47:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rush4theYehO: The mounting footprint is the same in the RMR/SRO & 507/407. However, most places that mill will ask you whether ryou're mounting a Trijicon or Holosun product because the screw length will be different. They may provide you different screws based on which optic you're running. Thanks, that makes my decision easier. |
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Posted: 8/24/2021 9:27:30 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/25/2021 7:23:41 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/25/2021 7:54:40 PM EDT
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I don't even use the RMR on my Hellcat when I go to the range
 I really should start trying to shoot w/the RMR, though |
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Posted: 8/25/2021 10:21:15 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/25/2021 11:51:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mister_H: https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/I-did-something-gross-Red-Dot-on-a-G43-/5-2480690/ Put a deltapoint micro on my G43, come make fun of how stupid it looks. Terrible |
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Posted: 8/26/2021 8:43:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Idaholandho: Terrible Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Idaholandho: Originally Posted By Mister_H: https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/I-did-something-gross-Red-Dot-on-a-G43-/5-2480690/ Put a deltapoint micro on my G43, come make fun of how stupid it looks. Terrible It’s actually pretty good. It looks very ugly though and adds ~ 3/4” to the rear of the gun. Closed diode that doesn’t fog up or fill with sweat, integrated back up rear sights, easy battery access. |
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Posted: 8/27/2021 10:23:57 AM EDT
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What's this?
 Attached File Attached FileLooks like it's a newish Carry Optics rig for me. I've been shooting a 2011 in Limited but the front sight is a fuzzy memory so I re-purposed my old G17 I used to run in Production. I now have an optic worth more than the gun.  Attached FileOf course I had to buy a new belt rig. I had a hell of a time finding a holster to accommodate the light. The DSG holster I settled on seems like it will work well.  Attached FileI did some dry fire this morning and my index is right on with the dot. Maybe the large window of the SRO makes it easier. |
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Posted: 8/30/2021 5:09:33 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/30/2021 12:42:45 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/30/2021 4:20:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bradd_D: With a reticle that small, what is the purpose of the dot inside the circle? It makes sense on an Eotech on a rifle, but I don't see the benefit here. The dot is used to hit the little pieces of tile…. Duh  Cp |
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Posted: 8/31/2021 9:28:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bradd_D: With a reticle that small, what is the purpose of the dot inside the circle? It makes sense on an Eotech on a rifle, but I don't see the benefit here. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bradd_D: With a reticle that small, what is the purpose of the dot inside the circle? It makes sense on an Eotech on a rifle, but I don't see the benefit here. I was wonder the same thing. I'm a dedicated EOTech fan with five of them on rifles. I always though that style of reticle would be too cluttered on a tiny handgun optic and that photo seems to confirm my suspicions. |
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Posted: 8/31/2021 9:33:06 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bradd_D: With a reticle that small, what is the purpose of the dot inside the circle? It makes sense on an Eotech on a rifle, but I don't see the benefit here. Originally Posted By eaglecp: The dot is used to hit the little pieces of tile…. Duh Cp Originally Posted By triburst1: I was wonder the same thing. I'm a dedicated EOTech fan with five of them on rifles. I always though that style of reticle would be too cluttered on a tiny handgun optic and that photo seems to confirm my suspicions. I had to hold the camera close to the dot, which makes it look much smaller. The center is 2 MOA and the circle is 32 MOA, so when I'm holding it at arms length it looks much bigger. I got the 507 for the option of the bigger dot since I was new to red dots. I like it. It grabs my attention and at 25 yards the circle looks to be ~8". So basically the head size or vitals. As soon as the circle crosses into the target I know I can make a good enough hit, and can use the 2MOA to be very specific. |
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Posted: 9/2/2021 1:28:29 AM EDT
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It looks like the majority of people putting dots on pistols still retain irons.
Do any of you trust your pistol optics enough to forgo irons? |
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Posted: 9/2/2021 7:45:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spork: It looks like the majority of people putting dots on pistols still retain irons. Do any of you trust your pistol optics enough to forgo irons? I trust them both 99% so I like having redundancy For a defensive pistol. |
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Posted: 9/2/2021 7:49:18 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AK-12]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spork: It looks like the majority of people putting dots on pistols still retain irons. Do any of you trust your pistol optics enough to forgo irons? Aside from bolt actions with large scopes and no provision to mount them, I don't have any rifles with optics and no irons either. No reason not to have both. |
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Posted: 9/2/2021 7:53:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spork: It looks like the majority of people putting dots on pistols still retain irons. Do any of you trust your pistol optics enough to forgo irons? |
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Posted: 9/2/2021 8:08:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spork: It looks like the majority of people putting dots on pistols still retain irons. Do any of you trust your pistol optics enough to forgo irons? I think the type 2 RMRs are gtg, I kept the irons to use as a crutch for the times that I don’t find the dot. |
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Posted: 9/2/2021 8:39:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spork: It looks like the majority of people putting dots on pistols still retain irons. Do any of you trust your pistol optics enough to forgo irons? I've seen red dots and irons go down in matches. I've been shooting (red FO front sight) and going for a second shot on target and see no red because my FO was gone. there's almost no penalty for keeping irons, and you get redundancy. Even with the dot off the front sight works like you would see it through a big ghost rear for "good enough" accuracy. the 507k has a rear sight milled in to the ass end of the sight. That way you don't need to use a rear at all and you have built in backups. |
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Posted: 9/2/2021 10:55:19 AM EDT
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Yeah. I'd really like to have both.
The problem is that it's my USP 9 that I'm trying to upgrade so my options are very limited. |
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Posted: 9/2/2021 11:18:18 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Millennial]
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Got a Glock 19C incoming. Brand new. Debating if I should send it out for milling or not and if I do, do I go irons or optic forward? Delete rear sight altogether?
Could make a great carry gun; flat shooting without holster complications from the extra comp length. |
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Posted: 9/2/2021 4:17:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Landric]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spork: Yeah. I'd really like to have both. The problem is that it's my USP 9 that I'm trying to upgrade so my options are very limited. Right there with you. I have a spare complete upper for my USP45 that I am going to get cut for an optic. I have had zero luck finding iron sights that will co-witness. Generally speaking I prefer to have both dot and irons on any serious gun. |
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Posted: 9/2/2021 6:06:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pneumagger: Got a Glock 19C incoming. Brand new. Debating if I should send it out for milling or not and if I do, do I go irons or optic forward? Delete rear sight altogether? Could make a great carry gun; flat shooting without holster complications from the extra comp length. |
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Posted: 9/2/2021 7:28:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bradd_D: The window on my Glock 17 gets fouled up pretty quickly while shooting. I can't help but wonder if a C Glock would be worse. |
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Posted: 9/2/2021 7:31:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fooboy: Solution: irons in front of optic |
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Posted: 9/2/2021 7:35:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Fooboy]
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1) It puts the optic window as far back as possible from the ejection port
2) The rear irons occlude the glass from crud coming out of the barrel as it unlocks. It doesn't have to be big (the irons), it just has to work. ETA: Actually my thread on irons placement got archived, I'm going to post it here and link to it in the OP. |
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Posted: 9/2/2021 7:41:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Fooboy]
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Rear Irons Placement - Why I think you should mill your rear irons in front of your red dot
This question seems to come up a lot. This is why I think you should put Irons in front of your RMR (in order of priority to me): - Puts the RMR further away from the ejection port and RMR window is also partially eclipsed by the rear sight, both of which result in elimination of carbon and lube buildup on the glass. After hundreds of rounds my RMR window is still minty fresh instead of carbon frosted like my buddies gun (m&p). This can be more or less of an issue depending on how dirty or clean the ammo you shoot is - RMR further back means I didn't have to cut or re-purchase any new holsters to fit the RMR. Given I have about $300 dollars in Glock 19 holsters, this was a good thing - The RMR window isn't very big, and having the irons to the rear eats up some of the bottom of the window. At least with irons in front, the dot can be superimposed so the full window is usable - While I dont beat up my RMR, irons forward provide some protection to the optic body if you cycle the gun off a hard surface - At least with Glocks, you can mill slightly deeper, putting the dot a smidge lower. As far as the reduced sight radius, I can still shoot head shots at 25 Y on IPSC target, so I don't find that to be an issue. The only real downside is that you're committing to keep an optic on as it would look funny with only a cover plate on |
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Posted: 9/2/2021 7:41:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fooboy: 1) It puts the optic window as far back as possible from the ejection port 2) The rear irons occlude the glass from crud coming out of the barrel as it unlocks. It doesn't have to be big (the irons), it just has to work. ETA: Actually my thread on irons placement got archived, I'm going to post it here and link to it in the OP. |
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Posted: 9/2/2021 7:44:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bradd_D: My post was in regards to the fouling coming out of the two large ports in the barrel and slide on a C Glock.  |
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Posted: 9/2/2021 7:50:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bradd_D: They're only a fraction of the size of the window. With the irons in front of the optic you can see the entire window. The only part the sights cover is in front of the window which isn't necessary anyway, sort of how occluded red dots work. |
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Posted: 9/3/2021 4:22:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fooboy: Rear Irons Placement - Why I think you should mill your rear irons in front of your red dot This question seems to come up a lot. This is why I think you should put Irons in front of your RMR (in order of priority to me): - Puts the RMR further away from the ejection port and RMR window is partially eclipsed by the rear sight, both of which result in elimination of carbon and lube buildup on the glass. After hundreds of rounds my RMR window is still minty fresh instead of carbon frosted like my buddies gun (m&p). This can be more or less of an issue depending on how dirty or clean the ammo you shoot is - RMR further back means I didn't have to cut or re-purchase any new holsters to fit the RMR. Given I have about $300 dollars in Glock 19 holsters, this was a good thing - The RMR window isn't very big, and having the irons to the rear eats up some of the bottom of the window. At least with irons in front, the dot can be superimposed so the full window is usable - While I dont beat up my RMR, irons forward provide some protection to the optic body if you cycle the gun off a hard surface - At least with Glocks, you can mill slightly deeper, putting the dot a smidge lower. As far as the reduced sight radius, I can still shoot head shots at 25 Y on IPSC target, so I don't find that to be an issue. The only real downside is that you're committing to keep an optic on as it would look funny with only a cover plate on I'd also add,
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Posted: 9/4/2021 4:51:57 PM EDT
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Got 500 in today. Fun shooting.
  
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Posted: 9/9/2021 6:01:24 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/9/2021 7:43:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WardenAKFiles: https://imgdump5.novarata.net/5htey4.jpg https://imgdump5.novarata.net/3vlftn.jpg https://imgdump5.novarata.net/psqh2d.jpg That looks nice. Wish it had the 250 trigger. Needs a light too I know I'm the odd man out on this one |
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Posted: 9/9/2021 11:18:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WardenAKFiles: https://imgdump5.novarata.net/5htey4.jpg https://imgdump5.novarata.net/3vlftn.jpg https://imgdump5.novarata.net/psqh2d.jpg  Attached FileCp |
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Posted: 9/15/2021 7:30:09 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/15/2021 7:38:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI'm thinking about buying another 43X and sending the slide to Battlewerx.  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/15/2021 7:51:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bradd_D: I'm thinking about buying another 43X and sending the slide to Battlewerx. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/2261/Amglo_408_JPG-2092176.JPG I'm probably going to get another one as well. Might get a MOS as well since I really want the frame for a SF XSC. Maybe a 48. |
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Posted: 9/15/2021 7:51:52 PM EDT
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Dang boys those milled 43x look legit.
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Posted: 9/15/2021 10:31:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fooboy: Dang boys those milled 43x look legit. What I was going to say… |
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Posted: 9/16/2021 9:27:57 AM EDT
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Something very simple
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