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Originally Posted By Trollslayer:
Note - the game's name is "22LR Tack Driving Range Game". View Quote I even learned from the experience and will go do it again... I did handicap myself using a 50 yard target at 75 yards, and the margin of error size of a .17 vs. .22 means it is easier for a .17 HMR to miss.... If my math is right a 22lr has 60 percent more surface area than a .17 HMR Red @Trollslayer PS - did you post up any of your targets and pic of the set up...rules..... |
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Originally Posted By badredfish: Well we are not playing for money and I took what I got...[/b]
The post is not any sort of admonition. It was a lead-in to my subsequent discussion of 22LR ammo quality. I even learned from the experience and will go do it again... THAT is what it is all about, even if using a centerfire. I did handicap myself using a 50 yard target at 75 yards, and the margin of error size of a .17 vs. .22 means it is easier for a .17 HMR to miss.... If my math is right a 22lr has 60 percent more surface area than a .17 HMR That is a huge handicap for such a demanding target. @Trollslayer PS - did you post up any of your targets and pic of the set up...rules..... I believe I posted my last target in the larger thread. I may even have it somewhere. It wasn't very good. My scope won't focus at less than 50 yards, so that is minimum distance. I tried it at 100 yards, too. The wind at my range is a killer, even at 100 yards! I was toying with the idea of setting up the targets as an event and inviting people to try their hand at it. Maybe use a white board to tally the scores. |
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Originally Posted By badredfish:
Can you play this game with a 17 HMR? That is the only killer rimfire I got.... Red View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By badredfish:
Can you play this game with a 17 HMR? That is the only killer rimfire I got.... Red Originally Posted By TN-MadDog: Well, technically this is a 22lr thread but I would be interested in seeing how your gun shoots. I say give it a shot and post some pics of your rifle and targets. What is your set up? Originally Posted By Trollslayer: Isn't this what lead to the demise of the rimfire benchrest competitions? IIRC, there was a consensus the ammo was the limiting factor and people got fed up investing so much time and energy only to be let down by the ammo. Even the best, most expensive was found lacking (centerfire ammo was their benchmark for comparison). Ammunition quality and characteristics are also why 17HMR and other non-22LR cartridges are specifically excluded from or categorized separately for events like these. Their ammo is so much better and their ballistics are so much better, 22LR is just not competitive with them. Note - the game's name is "22LR Tack Driving Range Game". I was curious to see how it would do and this thread has not been all that active anyway. I have enjoyed shooting these targets and I believe it has improved my rimfire shooting. I would encourage everyone to give a try and post up some targets. |
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I gave it a try yesterday with my new .22 can in the woods behind my house.
It’s a lot more difficult than I thought it would be so I bought 500 more subsonic rounds today. |
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For those running cans on your .22s... do you see any benefit to precision?
I only ask because my Mk12 tends to shoot better with the can on. Just curious of others’ experience with rimfires. |
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Man, don't have the "eyes" for iron sights anymore. I haven't shot that old Win. M52B in a long time. Used to be fun. Used to shoot the thumb tacks out of my buddy's targets at 25 yds. Just the top two, so the target would flop down forward and he would have to wait for an all clear to go put more thumb tacks in it. Killed a fly or two at 25 yds. Just leaves a bloody spot, or maybe a piece of leg or wing stuck to the edge of the hole. When my father-in-law would say, "Hey, let's shoot the .22's a bit." I'd walk out the door with that 52B and he'd tell me to put it back and get one of his rifles because it wasn't any fun when I had "that rifle."
I know, people tell "used to" stories all the time, but I was there so it's not a story to me. I did it. And it was fun. |
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Originally Posted By M1A4ME:
Man, don't have the "eyes" for iron sights anymore. I haven't shot that old Win. M52B in a long time. Used to be fun. Used to shoot the thumb tacks out of my buddy's targets at 25 yds. Just the top two, so the target would flop down forward and he would have to wait for an all clear to go put more thumb tacks in it. Killed a fly or two at 25 yds. Just leaves a bloody spot, or maybe a piece of leg or wing stuck to the edge of the hole. When my father-in-law would say, "Hey, let's shoot the .22's a bit." I'd walk out the door with that 52B and he'd tell me to put it back and get one of his rifles because it wasn't any fun when I had "that rifle." I know, people tell "used to" stories all the time, but I was there so it's not a story to me. I did it. And it was fun. View Quote |
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My first attempt at the 25 YD Tack Driving target.
20/25 tacks driven I had a bad flyer for my first tack, but rather than wait for another Range Cold, I shot the full target. I think I need a scope with higher mag and a finer reticle. My scope max is 8X and the hunting reticle is good for squirrel but completely covers a 25 yd tack Attached File |
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Originally Posted By AeroEngineer:
My first attempt at the 25 YD Tack Driving target. 20/25 tacks driven I had a bad flyer for my first tack, but rather than wait for another Range Cold, I shot the full target. I think I need a scope with higher mag and a finer reticle. My scope max is 8X and the hunting reticle is good for squirrel but completely covers a 25 yd tack https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/314595/B0FBE94A-5FCB-420E-A6C3-974620A757E8_jpeg-948299.JPG View Quote |
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Originally Posted By badredfish:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/22838/thumbnail_20190519_155444_jpg-951267.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/22838/thumbnail_20190519_155453_jpg-951269.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/22838/thumbnail_20190519_155435_jpg-951270.JPG It was really windy... and I suck...LOL Red View Quote Waiting on some better days to burn 22 ammo |
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Originally Posted By CplRick: The line of credit on the Race Card is maxed out, sorry. |
Why put it that way? That's damned good.
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Originally Posted By TN-MadDog:
Originally Posted By Trollslayer:
Why put it that way? That's damned good. It might be the perfectionist in me. Anything less than 100% drives me nuts, it's why I dont golf anymore. My son shot 14/25 with his savage and centerpoint scope. My other buddy had 11/25 with a good rifle but the wrong glass. He did better with my equipment but no one wanted to put any coin up to make it interesting. |
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Originally Posted By Plank_Spanker:
LOL It might be the perfectionist in me. Anything less than 100% drives me nuts, it's why I dont golf anymore. My son shot 14/25 with his savage and centerpoint scope. My other buddy had 11/25 with a good rifle but the wrong glass. He did better with my equipment but no one wanted to put any coin up to make it interesting. View Quote I can shoot 25 round groups that are basically one ragged hole but while that one ragged hole looks good it will not fit inside one of the dots. I think there might have been one perfect target posted in this thread but not really all that many over 20. I have a rifle/scope combo that I believe is capable but ammo (and maybe me) is part of the problem. Too many times I have had flyers when I know that It was not me or the rifle. I have tried the 100 yard target a few times and with the ammo I have used so far it is pretty much wasting time. Shooting this game really requires a lot of concentration, good shooting form and consistent ammo. |
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Originally Posted By TN-MadDog:
It is more difficult than it looks and I have yet to get a perfect score. I can shoot 25 round groups that are basically one ragged hole but while that one ragged hole looks good it will not fit inside one of the dots. I think there might have been one perfect target posted in this thread but not really all that many over 20. I have a rifle/scope combo that I believe is capable but ammo (and maybe me) is part of the problem. Too many times I have had flyers when I know that It was not me or the rifle. I have tried the 100 yard target a few times and with the ammo I have used so far it is pretty much wasting time. Shooting this game really requires a lot of concentration, good shooting form and consistent ammo. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By TN-MadDog:
Originally Posted By Plank_Spanker:
LOL It might be the perfectionist in me. Anything less than 100% drives me nuts, it's why I dont golf anymore. My son shot 14/25 with his savage and centerpoint scope. My other buddy had 11/25 with a good rifle but the wrong glass. He did better with my equipment but no one wanted to put any coin up to make it interesting. I can shoot 25 round groups that are basically one ragged hole but while that one ragged hole looks good it will not fit inside one of the dots. I think there might have been one perfect target posted in this thread but not really all that many over 20. I have a rifle/scope combo that I believe is capable but ammo (and maybe me) is part of the problem. Too many times I have had flyers when I know that It was not me or the rifle. I have tried the 100 yard target a few times and with the ammo I have used so far it is pretty much wasting time. Shooting this game really requires a lot of concentration, good shooting form and consistent ammo. |
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Originally Posted By CplRick: The line of credit on the Race Card is maxed out, sorry. |
Originally Posted By Plank_Spanker:
Your right, it gets me to concentrate on basic shooting fundamentals. I have everyone that shoots at my range try it & it's an eye opener for all of them, mostly with the equipment they have. Most have a decent rifle with poor glass. Most of my buddies that shoot still won't come off a few bucks to purchase glass that will actually make a difference. Their good marksman too. View Quote What is good glass for a 22lr? Red |
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I keep buying .22 LR guns and testing them with different ammo. I've been VERY disappointed in the results.
I wish I could find a 'tack-driver.' |
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Originally Posted By badredfish:
@Plank_Spanker What is good glass for a 22lr? Red View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By badredfish:
Originally Posted By Plank_Spanker:
Your right, it gets me to concentrate on basic shooting fundamentals. I have everyone that shoots at my range try it & it's an eye opener for all of them, mostly with the equipment they have. Most have a decent rifle with poor glass. Most of my buddies that shoot still won't come off a few bucks to purchase glass that will actually make a difference. Their good marksman too. What is good glass for a 22lr? Red I hope I didn't come across the wrong way. I was by no means criticizing anyone equipment. I do have friends that purchase less expensive optics expecting good results but it falls far short of those expectations. Buy once, cry once. Good glass for a .22lr? To shoot this challenge accurately? Anything with a fine reticle & at least for my poor eyes, something in the x14 power range. My son shot 14/25 with a Centerpoint 4x16 that I bought for him at wally world. It cost $70.00. The glass in that optic is not as good as 1k optic of any other manufacturer. The glass on my CZ is a Millet 6x25. I got it for my .308 but was not happy with the results. I think I have other issues with that rifle & it could be a whole other thread so I put the optic on the CZ. The biggest issue with this scope is the tube size. It's 35mm & I can't find rings for it in a 3/8" beaver tail. I bought the shortest riser I could find but it's still about 3/4" to tall. I use a towel wrapped around the stock for a better cheek weld. One thing I do when shooting the 25yd challenge, depending on which ammo I use, it can be difficult to adjust the optic, at this distance, POA=POI, If you look at my target, on one of the sight in targets I drew cross hairs on the circle. If I can get the horizontal & vertical cross hairs on the edge of each circle, top & side, It gives me a better POA, It has helped me at least. Most everything I've learned has been trial & error, I've never had any formal training. I've wasted more money than I care to admit but shooting stuff is fun as O_P says. At least my sons have the benefit of learning from my mistakes & I hope to leave them some reliable & accurate equipment. |
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Originally Posted By CplRick: The line of credit on the Race Card is maxed out, sorry. |
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Originally Posted By CplRick: The line of credit on the Race Card is maxed out, sorry. |
Originally Posted By Plank_Spanker:
@badredfish I hope I didn't come across the wrong way. I was by no means criticizing anyone equipment. I do have friends that purchase less expensive optics expecting good results but it falls far short of those expectations. Buy once, cry once. Good glass for a .22lr? To shoot this challenge accurately? Anything with a fine reticle & at least for my poor eyes, something in the x14 power range. My son shot 14/25 with a Centerpoint 4x16 that I bought for him at wally world. It cost $70.00. The glass in that optic is not as good as 1k optic of any other manufacturer. The glass on my CZ is a Millet 6x25. I got it for my .308 but was not happy with the results. I think I have other issues with that rifle & it could be a whole other thread so I put the optic on the CZ. The biggest issue with this scope is the tube size. It's 35mm & I can't find rings for it in a 3/8" beaver tail. I bought the shortest riser I could find but it's still about 3/4" to tall. I use a towel wrapped around the stock for a better cheek weld. One thing I do when shooting the 25yd challenge, depending on which ammo I use, it can be difficult to adjust the optic, at this distance, POA=POI, If you look at my target, on one of the sight in targets I drew cross hairs on the circle. If I can get the horizontal & vertical cross hairs on the edge of each circle, top & side, It gives me a better POA, It has helped me at least. Most everything I've learned has been trial & error, I've never had any formal training. I've wasted more money than I care to admit but shooting stuff is fun as O_P says. At least my sons have the benefit of learning from my mistakes & I hope to leave them some reliable & accurate equipment. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Plank_Spanker:
Originally Posted By badredfish:
Originally Posted By Plank_Spanker:
Your right, it gets me to concentrate on basic shooting fundamentals. I have everyone that shoots at my range try it & it's an eye opener for all of them, mostly with the equipment they have. Most have a decent rifle with poor glass. Most of my buddies that shoot still won't come off a few bucks to purchase glass that will actually make a difference. Their good marksman too. What is good glass for a 22lr? Red I hope I didn't come across the wrong way. I was by no means criticizing anyone equipment. I do have friends that purchase less expensive optics expecting good results but it falls far short of those expectations. Buy once, cry once. Good glass for a .22lr? To shoot this challenge accurately? Anything with a fine reticle & at least for my poor eyes, something in the x14 power range. My son shot 14/25 with a Centerpoint 4x16 that I bought for him at wally world. It cost $70.00. The glass in that optic is not as good as 1k optic of any other manufacturer. The glass on my CZ is a Millet 6x25. I got it for my .308 but was not happy with the results. I think I have other issues with that rifle & it could be a whole other thread so I put the optic on the CZ. The biggest issue with this scope is the tube size. It's 35mm & I can't find rings for it in a 3/8" beaver tail. I bought the shortest riser I could find but it's still about 3/4" to tall. I use a towel wrapped around the stock for a better cheek weld. One thing I do when shooting the 25yd challenge, depending on which ammo I use, it can be difficult to adjust the optic, at this distance, POA=POI, If you look at my target, on one of the sight in targets I drew cross hairs on the circle. If I can get the horizontal & vertical cross hairs on the edge of each circle, top & side, It gives me a better POA, It has helped me at least. Most everything I've learned has been trial & error, I've never had any formal training. I've wasted more money than I care to admit but shooting stuff is fun as O_P says. At least my sons have the benefit of learning from my mistakes & I hope to leave them some reliable & accurate equipment. Check out this link - they just might have the scope mount that will get you where you want to go. https://www.bkltech.com/Dovetail-to-Weaver-Picatinny-Adaptor-Mounts-s/7.htm You did not come across the wrong way - I know in glass you get what you pay for...I set up my Marlin 17V to practice shooting as a substitute for my deer rifles. Easy on the recoil and pocketbook too. 10 to 14 bucks for 50 rounds vs. the 20 bucks for 20 and the extra recoil. Scopes are a very subjective thing...just wanting to see what you had to add to the conversations. We are all here to learn. Have a great Memorial Day! Red |
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Originally Posted By CplRick: The line of credit on the Race Card is maxed out, sorry. |
Originally Posted By badredfish: @Plank_Spanker Check out this link - they just might have the scope mount that will get you where you want to go. https://www.bkltech.com/Dovetail-to-Weaver-Picatinny-Adaptor-Mounts-s/7.htm You did not come across the wrong way - I know in glass you get what you pay for...I set up my Marlin 17V to practice shooting as a substitute for my deer rifles. Easy on the recoil and pocketbook too. 10 to 14 bucks for 50 rounds vs. the 20 bucks for 20 and the extra recoil. Scopes are a very subjective thing...just wanting to see what you had to add to the conversations. We are all here to learn. Have a great Memorial Day! Red View Quote |
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Originally Posted By badredfish: @Plank_Spanker What is good glass for a 22lr? Red View Quote One thing that I think is important with rimfire scopes in general and especially for this tack driving game is to have one that has parallax adjustment and will adjust down to less than 25 yards. The Bushnell Engage that I have has parallax adjustment down to 10 yards. They are not terribly expensive compared to top tier scopes but it has good clear glass and a decent reticle. I was just looking and while they tend to be close to $250 I saw one place that has them on sale for $185. I bought mine used in very good condition off the EE here. |
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Originally Posted By Plank_Spanker:
So up at 5am & put a brisket on the smoker. Cut the grass in the pasture & had a chance to shoot this again. Nice & calm out this morning. The rifle set up. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/381345/5A1E41C5-E7A8-4A04-8043-AA3602B0F96D-959520.jpg The target. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/381345/568C4A64-7893-4A73-9518-751037051766-959522.jpg The results. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/381345/D9BBACDA-E7A2-4BC8-92C6-A831DD6A0CD5-959527.jpg I noted my POA for this set. Being able to put the reticle on a known edge gives me a bit more confidence that my POA is the same every time, opposed to circling around trying to hold center on a circle. This ammo I got at SGAmmo for .04 a round. I bought that high dollar RWS R 50 in the gold box. I shot the 19/25 with it but conditions were not as nice as this morning. View Quote Pretty good shooting on your first target! The next two, do you think the difference was the ammo, the conditions, or something else? |
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I think I will grab my stuff and head to the range.
I'll check back in later. |
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Originally Posted By TN-MadDog:
Nice set up you have to shoot at home. Pretty good shooting on your first target! The next two, do you think the difference was the ammo, the conditions, or something else? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By TN-MadDog:
Originally Posted By Plank_Spanker:
So up at 5am & put a brisket on the smoker. Cut the grass in the pasture & had a chance to shoot this again. Nice & calm out this morning. The rifle set up. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/381345/5A1E41C5-E7A8-4A04-8043-AA3602B0F96D-959520.jpg The target. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/381345/568C4A64-7893-4A73-9518-751037051766-959522.jpg The results. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/381345/D9BBACDA-E7A2-4BC8-92C6-A831DD6A0CD5-959527.jpg I noted my POA for this set. Being able to put the reticle on a known edge gives me a bit more confidence that my POA is the same every time, opposed to circling around trying to hold center on a circle. This ammo I got at SGAmmo for .04 a round. I bought that high dollar RWS R 50 in the gold box. I shot the 19/25 with it but conditions were not as nice as this morning. Pretty good shooting on your first target! The next two, do you think the difference was the ammo, the conditions, or something else? Honestly I think the ammo was a bigger part of it. 50% was my setup. A lot of those shots dint feel right when I let them go, that leads me to compensate for something that might not be there. I should have gone back to my routine. Then you had the shot that felt solid on the break and I’m like WTF. |
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Originally Posted By CplRick: The line of credit on the Race Card is maxed out, sorry. |
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Brisket looks awesome!
I’m still st the range, just finished shooting two targets. Wanted to shoot another but my rifle was pretty dirty from my last range session and it started getting sluggish so I’m quitting for the day. Very light and variable winds but prett hot and humid. Damn biting flies are irritating as shit. Did pretty good though. Here are my two targets. First Attached File Second Attached File |
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Originally Posted By TN-MadDog:
Brisket looks awesome! I’m still st the range, just finished shooting two targets. Wanted to shoot another but my rifle was pretty dirty from my last range session and it started getting sluggish so I’m quitting for the day. Very light and variable winds but prett hot and humid. Damn biting flies are irritating as shit. Did pretty good though. Here are my two targets. First https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/35314/0CC03AD4-1732-4707-B29D-98A647B4C5D5_jpeg-959864.JPG Second https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/35314/0F09E778-5B5D-4D31-92CA-479EA958EA28_jpeg-959865.JPG View Quote I'm certain I could not shoot as well with a bi-pod & squeeze bag. |
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Originally Posted By TN-MadDog:
Brisket looks awesome! I’m still st the range, just finished shooting two targets. Wanted to shoot another but my rifle was pretty dirty from my last range session and it started getting sluggish so I’m quitting for the day. Very light and variable winds but prett hot and humid. Damn biting flies are irritating as shit. Did pretty good though. Here are my two targets. First https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/35314/0CC03AD4-1732-4707-B29D-98A647B4C5D5_jpeg-959864.JPG Second https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/35314/0F09E778-5B5D-4D31-92CA-479EA958EA28_jpeg-959865.JPG View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Plank_Spanker:
Great shooting. Nice rifle too. I'm certain I could not shoot as well with a bi-pod & squeeze bag. View Quote The bipod gives a very solid rest and the squeeze bag makes it easier to quickly move to different aiming points. |
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That is damn good shooting.
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That is good shooting, I'll have a go at 50 yards again soon.
I didn't have time to shoot the AR at 100 yards. That could get expensive. |
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Originally Posted By CplRick: The line of credit on the Race Card is maxed out, sorry. |
Can someone email me the target files? [email protected]
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If that is a legitimate 25/25, you should post it in the 1 MOA All Day Long Thread. They will add you to the short list of people who have done it.
I may have forgotten some other, but that might be the first 25/25 I've seen on this board. |
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Very nice rife, and good shooting.
I hate to be the one to point it out but those are the 50 yard targets. Don't feel too bad, you are not the first to get them mixed up. Please try it again with the 25 yard targets, it is a very fun and challenging game. @RV8guy any chance the target files could be edited to have the yardage listed on the top of the target? |
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Originally Posted By TN-MadDog:
Very nice rife, and good shooting. I hate to be the one to point it out but those are the 50 yard targets. Don't feel too bad, you are not the first to get them mixed up. Please try it again with the 25 yard targets, it is a very fun and challenging game. @RV8guy any chance the target files could be edited to have the yardage listed on the top of the target? View Quote My son did that to us the other day. I still couldn't shoot a perfect score. You could just overlay a 25 yd target on the 50 yd & re-score it. |
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Originally Posted By CplRick: The line of credit on the Race Card is maxed out, sorry. |
Originally Posted By RV8guy:
3 If you printed the target correctly the "Tacks" should be .375" for 25 yrd tack, .5" for 50 yrd tack, and 1" 100 yrd tack outside diameter. View Quote |
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Rifle (Savage FV-SR w/can) and target down range:
Attached File Attached File Target 1 Attached File Target 2. As you can see one is very questionable so I didn’t count it. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By esa17:
Rifle (Savage FV-SR w/can) and target down range: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/232306/D4C82336-F027-462E-A09F-E237BC0D6753_jpeg-1002741.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/232306/14DB2D91-B393-4C4A-8EE8-6BE872699C7D_jpeg-1002923.JPG Target 1 https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/232306/1F320822-AE7C-4FC1-B94D-E36F0808B53A_jpeg-1002926.JPG Target 2. As you can see one is very questionable so I didn’t count it. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/232306/74551485-5FE1-41E1-8E81-73BA53F086FB_jpeg-1002925.JPG View Quote We really need to get the files changed to show the yardage on top of the targets to avoid this confusion. I bought a pretty good quantity of the CCI Standard Velocity and neither of my rifles likes it very much. Haven't tried it in my SBR or Ruger Mark II. |
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