I'll take 2 sixty rounders for half that price.

You just failed Zombie 101, hard.

Actually that muzzle brake is .mil issue.

I think the 60s would work fine.  The 100?  Not so much.

Japan doesn't count.

mine takes these. less money and not as cumbersume. 75 rounds!

60 rounders are for offense.  100 rounders are for defense.  

You act like that is unusual.

So you guys don't carry any extra magazines? Dang, now THAT is impressive!

Because someone in a firefight would gladly pay $120 to have 20 more rounds on tap before a reload, I certainly would.



Does everyone think they are Surefire's only customer?  Do you really think they are marketing $600 flashlights to people who's average use of a firearm is blasting away at a shooting range?



 

yes

It is us who are now making the mag-ski

They do...





 

Don't lie down during the zombie apocalypse.

Simple.

The Surefire mags come with the valuable " It Works" option.

no digital countdown timer?
3 of the 100's taped together more ammo–– on the rifle than the base load the soldier would carry normally ––- this will kill the ammo pouch market !
and If surefire wants to sell a metric shit ton they should start a rumor about a new high cap ban. Remember when USGI 30's went $30-$50 ?
Seriously tho I think it has its applications as long as its not a jam-o-matic,  having 60-100 rounds on tap right away would be great as long as it works.
As alot of people have said I see the three gunners testing it first and if it becomes a hit so be it.

Pansy.

Just don't load more than 30rds in the mag.

Someone fire up AUTOCAD

Supplementary gear is irrelevant - one 60-round magazine doesn't weigh any more than two 30-round magazines.

As for the weight of the rifle - I bet the M4 with 60-round magazine doesn't weigh any more than an M16A2 with 30-round magazine (& I bet it's still a hell of a lot lighter than an A2 with a PVS4 on top).

I'll buy a few of the 60 rounders when the price comes down to something reasonable.

Is that the MAGPUL patent?

That's reeeeeally expensive.  How much are the Magpul 40 rounders going for?  Or are they not out yet?

Would it make sense to have a 30rd mag in the gun to keep the weight down and hold the 60rd mags in reserve?

I like the 60. I'm interested to see when they hit the market if they are as GTG feeding as the tried and true USGI/PMAGS.



That's really the main downside I see. Case in point: Lets say you are carrying 300 rounds in 2 scenarios. 10 30 rounders or 3 100 rounders. You have 1 mag crap out in either scenario but in one you limit your loss to 10% while in the other you've just dropped 33% of your available ammo while you scramble to tinker with feed lips etc. to diagnose the problem. Could be a non-issue but if that did happen loosing a max of 100 rounds vs loosing a max of 30 rounds could provide some unwanted excitement.

where do you think they got the idea?

Here's a post I wrote a while ago of one that actually exists and works:

Recently, there has been some interest in quad magazines. Here is a short summary of their operation using the only one I own, a Sites Spectre 9mm.

The Spectre mag is even more unusual than some others because it’s actually a 4 into 2 into 1, as it’s a single feed mag like a pistol instead of a left/right feed style like a rifle.

All parts of the mag work together to feed cartridges properly and it’s a complicated operation as opposed to the simplicity of a straight walled box magazine. The follower is designed to work with the mag components, wall angles and spring tension. The tension is VERY high, and it’s very hard to load, perhaps the worst in existance. This being said, this isn’t really a problem because this is a law enforcement weapon as opposed to a combat weapon where the ‘field’ comes into play. Loading mags in an office, is quite different than in dark/wet/dirty conditions. It is assumed that you will carry all the loaded mags you will need with you.

The 30 round mag:



The 4 wide area is separated into 2 chambers, and two separate springs are used. The follower rides in the slot and is large enough to push the alternating rounds on each side, yet thin enough to travel unobstructed from the 4 wide area to the 2 wide area while still pushing cartridges. It is also designed to ride the partition sheet metal so that it will not be allowed move out of perfect position causing a horrible jam. Of course, once it enters the 2 wide chamber and is free of the partition, it is held properly by the sides of the mag as normal.




The partition that separates the 4 wide area ends at the perfect point for the sides of the narrowing mag walls to integrate one cartridge from each side into a 2 wide stack.



The narrowing from 2 to 1 happens at the last moment so the follower just has to perform one last motion in order to feed the last round. Note the roller on the follower held by a wire arm. This makes this a dynamic component. It is important for the last round, as the roller follows the mag contour and slides under the last round in order to hold it in the feed lips. Without this element, the last round would be left rattling in the mag since the follower would not be able to move high enough to properly tension the last round against the lips. In the first photo, you can see this roller at work. This wouldn’t be necessary in a typical left/right feed mag like a rifle.



The ‘pistol’:

Quad stacks have been around since the '30s.  They are not a mystery, it's a judgement call as to their ultimate value considering the weight, cost, and reliability versus a standard mag or drum.

Actually, yes they are.  Tactical ninjas are where the money is at.  Any gun shop  owner  will tell you so.

I have mixed feelings when I see the price.

Nail - Head

 

There are downsides to any equipment. If there werent everyone would use the same loadout.

Meh,  I'd buy the 100 just to annoy a fudd and piss off a libtard

I would imagine that #8 is shorter ( front to back) than the two followers , and the followers have a hollow space in the middle ( just not big enough for the cartridge to fall into ) that would 'wrap around' that #8 divider as the rounds rise up.


Kinda laughs in the face of the whole KISS theory . I'd want to see alot of testing in the field before Id trust it in battle .

But could be fun as a range toy .

Let's see.  Adds about 5 more pounds to the rifle.

Barrel doesn't get to cool at all during mag changes that would be normal with 20 and 30 round mags.

Not a good idea.

Unless your role is suppressive fire.

I predict a droopy barrel on your future.

brings the rain

I for one am looking forward to using the 100 rounder on my PSD.

Wow, five pounds?

You're saying that the magazine body weighs 4 pounds more than a standard 30-rounder's?

I didn't see that, I agree it changes my opinion of the thing.  I thought it would only be double the weight of a 30-round body, so maybe it'd add a pound total, when fully loaded.

And you're right, barrel coolling during reloads is essential.  I believe that's why the SEALs have transitioned to 5 round magazines.

There are also upsides.

(Kinda like the one it gave me)  I think I will be seriously looking into this

I really like the look of the 60 round magazine. The 100 round one looks like it might be fun for FA toys at a special FA shoot.

I won't comment on military usefulness because that's a circle jerk argument, but no one has mentioned that a 60 round magazine could get you through 90% of 3 Gun rifle stages without a reload, and I would expect Surefire to release a quality product that works, as opposed to the craptacular 40 round magazines currently on the market.

'Cause!  Being uber tacticool is priceless!  
 

I am not a soldier.  But I agree with "Duke"; if this thing is reliable, it could be a useful tool to our fighting men overseas.  Apparently, some of our remote bases are only manned by a few soldiers & the enemy sometimes tries to over run these bases with supperior numbers.  Besides, for road-block or base defense duty, weight would not be a concern.  Same for in-vehicle use & the 60 is short enough to manuever in a larger vehicle (like we are using now).  

If these mags give our boys an edge in that situation, then I am 100% for them!

Besides, they could also come in useful for 3gun.

FuyYun seems to think differently.  Apparently NO ONE will buy this for a range toy, it's strictly for "Operators".  Like $600 flashlights.

So instead of the John Holmes of AR magazines, it should be the Ron Jeremy of AR mags?