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Posted: 8/5/2015 5:52:50 PM EDT
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So many any other pistol that from the box with ZERO mods has the same trigger pull, trigger reset, function, reliability, and zero break in required? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There is a reason why the vast....VAST....majority of LE uses Glock. Well yeah... because GLOCK pretty much gives them the guns for free. What does that have to do with anything? Syphilis is free. You don't see people lining up to get it. It's because Glock works. Period. Any of easily a dozen modern pistols are every bit as good or better, to think any different is just fucking delusional. GLOCK = marketing. So many any other pistol that from the box with ZERO mods has the same trigger pull, trigger reset, function, reliability, and zero break in required? The glock plastic sights cost money to change out, just as the other pistols mods do 
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Posted: 8/5/2015 5:53:58 PM EDT
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So many any other pistol that from the box with ZERO mods has the same trigger pull, trigger reset, function, reliability, and zero break in required? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There is a reason why the vast....VAST....majority of LE uses Glock. Well yeah... because GLOCK pretty much gives them the guns for free. What does that have to do with anything? Syphilis is free. You don't see people lining up to get it. It's because Glock works. Period. Any of easily a dozen modern pistols are every bit as good or better, to think any different is just fucking delusional. GLOCK = marketing. So many any other pistol that from the box with ZERO mods has the same trigger pull, trigger reset, function, reliability, and zero break in required? Trigger pull and reset is subjective... personally I think the stock Glock trigger sucks balls. As for function, reliability, and no break-in? Absolutely. |
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Posted: 8/5/2015 5:56:44 PM EDT
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My last shootout in Death Valley resulted in the Glock literally warping.
There were a lot of bad guys and it couldn't handle the heat. The 9mm just couldn't get consistent one shot kills. I went back to my old 1911, it solved all my problems. |
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Posted: 8/5/2015 5:57:22 PM EDT
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Gee, it can shoot tight groups.
What happens more often - needing more than 8-9 rounds in a firefight or needing 1.5" groups? 
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Posted: 8/5/2015 5:58:06 PM EDT
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So we're left with... HK? Maybe Sig? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We've been through this before. Picking a pistol that requires hand fitting to outfit a unit is fucking stupid. And picking a pistol because the manufacturer builds them to a stupid low price point that selling units at 200 bucks a pop is profitable is equally dumb. So we're left with... HK? Maybe Sig? Yes, yes, and I'd throw in CZ in as well. |
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Posted: 8/5/2015 5:59:45 PM EDT
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Gee, it can shoot tight groups. What happens more often - needing more than 8-9 rounds in a firefight or needing 1.5" groups? Either is more useful than a "SWAT team" in an FBI field office.
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Posted: 8/5/2015 6:22:53 PM EDT
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Why couldn't they use stock 1911s? I thought JMB invented perfection in 1911? That's like saying ALL ARs or AKs are created equal. |
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Posted: 8/5/2015 6:37:23 PM EDT
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Either is more useful than a "SWAT team" in an FBI field office. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Gee, it can shoot tight groups. What happens more often - needing more than 8-9 rounds in a firefight or needing 1.5" groups? Either is more useful than a "SWAT team" in an FBI field office. This. A field SWAT unit is a joke. When I was on Chattanooga SWAT they always called us. |
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Posted: 8/5/2015 6:45:16 PM EDT
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No gun is malfunction free. Glock however has millions of rounds with very few. My personal Glocks have close to 100k with 2...both blazer ammo related Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:Every gun can malfunction, and Glock is FAR from being immune from that. No gun is malfunction free. Glock however has millions of rounds with very few. My personal Glocks have close to 100k with 2...both blazer ammo related I just seem em go down a lot more than one would think from what you read on the net. Granted about 98% of the shooters out there shoot glock so the pool is bigger. Don't get me wrong. I see 1911s go down as well. But mine just run and run. |
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Posted: 8/5/2015 6:47:42 PM EDT
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Syphilis is free. You don't see people lining up to get it. It's because Glock works. Period. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There is a reason why the vast....VAST....majority of LE uses Glock. Well yeah... because GLOCK pretty much gives them the guns for free. What does that have to do with anything? Syphilis is free. You don't see people lining up to get it. It's because Glock works. Period. what about the ones that dont? 
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Posted: 8/5/2015 6:48:40 PM EDT
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what about the ones that dont? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There is a reason why the vast....VAST....majority of LE uses Glock. Well yeah... because GLOCK pretty much gives them the guns for free. What does that have to do with anything? Syphilis is free. You don't see people lining up to get it. It's because Glock works. Period. what about the ones that dont? Obviously operator error. Glocks are Perfect(TM). |
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Posted: 8/5/2015 6:53:48 PM EDT
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I just seem em go down a lot more than one would think from what you read on the net. Granted about 98% of the shooters out there shoot glock so the pool is bigger. Don't get me wrong. I see 1911s go down as well. But mine just run and run. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted:Every gun can malfunction, and Glock is FAR from being immune from that. No gun is malfunction free. Glock however has millions of rounds with very few. My personal Glocks have close to 100k with 2...both blazer ammo related I just seem em go down a lot more than one would think from what you read on the net. Granted about 98% of the shooters out there shoot glock so the pool is bigger. Don't get me wrong. I see 1911s go down as well. But mine just run and run. the fact the glock fan boys cant bring themselves to face is that MOST modern pistols are very reliable. so much so as to reduce glocks only remaining plus to "its cheap." |
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Posted: 8/5/2015 6:54:16 PM EDT
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Obviously operator error. Glocks are Perfect(TM). Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There is a reason why the vast....VAST....majority of LE uses Glock. Well yeah... because GLOCK pretty much gives them the guns for free. What does that have to do with anything? Syphilis is free. You don't see people lining up to get it. It's because Glock works. Period. what about the ones that dont? Obviously operator error. Glocks are Perfect(TM). perfection V4.2 
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Posted: 8/5/2015 6:56:21 PM EDT
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Obviously operator error. Glocks are Perfect(TM). Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There is a reason why the vast....VAST....majority of LE uses Glock. Well yeah... because GLOCK pretty much gives them the guns for free. What does that have to do with anything? Syphilis is free. You don't see people lining up to get it. It's because Glock works. Period. what about the ones that dont? Obviously operator error. Glocks are Perfect(TM). Perfection™... Generation 4 |
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Posted: 8/5/2015 7:15:19 PM EDT
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Seven, or eight round mag. capacity is like bringing a half-loaded gun to a gunfight. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Nothing like using a 104 year old design as the latest and greatest pistol on the market.  Seven, or eight round mag. capacity is like bringing a half-loaded gun to a gunfight. And yet so many are flocking to the single stack Nines with 6 round magazines. Go figure. At 5'8" and 135lbs, I regularly carried a Colt concealed quite comfortably. Today, if I open carry, it is a G21 and concealed, its one of two G30's. But I have no issues or concerns about going back to a 1911. As my father owns two, if I get the bug to shoot one, I can always grab one of his. |
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Posted: 8/5/2015 7:16:43 PM EDT
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I bought my first 1911 in 2007. I had other Perfect guns already, just wanted to own a 1911 finally. I had shot one a few times, back in the 80s, which was a surplus rattletrap, not terribly accurate, but reliable and fun.
Fast forward to 2010, and I sold my last Perfect pistol, and owned only 1911s in auto-loaders. My primary, the one bought in 2007, has over 12,000 rnds through the pipe, has never failed me, hasn't had a single breakage, and hasn't even deaded me once. |
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Posted: 8/5/2015 7:33:15 PM EDT
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One is my primary carry that other is my backup.
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Posted: 8/5/2015 8:13:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wilson CQB. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Which bastard 9mm 1911 are you using? Wilson CQB.  |
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Posted: 8/5/2015 8:37:50 PM EDT
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Yet men from America went to war with them and won. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Nothing like using a 104 year old design as the latest and greatest pistol on the market. Seven, or eight round mag. capacity is like bringing a half-loaded gun to a gunfight. Yet men from America went to war with them and won. We didn't win because of 1911's. "Back in the day", single-stack pistol mags. were the norm (Hi-Power excepted and not "the norm"). I suppose loading M-4's from the top with stripper clips sounds cool to you as well. 
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Posted: 8/5/2015 8:41:41 PM EDT
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Is this real? I could've sworn that old Buck, Ditch, whatever his name is, said that he's never seen a 1911 go through a class of his without having a big malfunction/failure. He said this on a video he did about 1911's and how they aren't made like there were back in the day... (He did say that, but I don't know if I really believe him) Old buck needs to dive in a ditch and suck start 1 of his ultimate weapon glocks.. |
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Posted: 8/5/2015 8:44:37 PM EDT
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vs 
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Posted: 8/5/2015 8:46:09 PM EDT
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http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/132896f2a3d0ad71fdb379e6c4ddf006b8c8e935/c=53-0-2444-1798&r=x383&c=540x380/local/-/media/2015/02/17/GGM/MarineCorpsTimes/635597725902987917-43385.jpg Iraqi soldiers are the only ones professional enough to use the Glock 19.
Tip of the iraqi spear? |
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Posted: 8/5/2015 8:47:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryBOOM!! And I'm not even a Glock fanboy. |
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Posted: 8/5/2015 8:47:38 PM EDT
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Although I love my Glock I never had any issues with my Springfield 1911.
At the time as a young man I could oy afford one pistol and the wife liked the Glock better than the 1911. Will have another one day, but my carry gun will still be the G17 |
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Posted: 8/5/2015 8:57:35 PM EDT
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love it |
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Posted: 8/5/2015 10:41:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI can detail strip a 1911 with nothing more than a spent casing and the parts within the gun. Let me see you do THAT with a Glock.
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Posted: 8/5/2015 10:51:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I can detail strip a 1911 with nothing more than a spent casing and the parts within the gun. Let me see you do THAT with a Glock. Quote HistoryQuoted: I can detail strip a 1911 with nothing more than a spent casing and the parts within the gun. Let me see you do THAT with a Glock. You can get the grip screws off with the sear spring |
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Posted: 8/5/2015 10:55:16 PM EDT
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I can detail strip a 1911 with nothing more than a spent casing and the parts within the gun. Let me see you do THAT with a Glock. Quote HistoryQuoted:
I can detail strip a 1911 with nothing more than a spent casing and the parts within the gun. Let me see you do THAT with a Glock. I detailed striped a Glock on the side of a road with a ball point pen Because he was a gang-banger douche bag who I'm positive was on his way to do a drive by. He got his gun back in a ziplock. |
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Posted: 8/5/2015 11:05:20 PM EDT
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lol my neighbor actually submitted a pistol for the trials and was the runner up.
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Posted: 8/5/2015 11:08:36 PM EDT
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Your neighbor was Mr.Novak?
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Posted: 8/5/2015 11:08:46 PM EDT
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Accuracy is always important, but if the firearm doesn't go bang, then accuracy takes a back seat. Read the article, They went bang for many many many thousands of rounds Those articles are typically full of BS. Not saying it's impossible, but I would never treat a gun mag article as anything less than a paid for advertisement full of dumb rhetoric. It is an advertisment. Someone needs to tell MARSOC, Delta, and the SEALs that 1911s are the best around. Funny you say that http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/4872/marsoc1stmsobda11ve7.jpg All of them also use Glocks. Your point is bullshit. |
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Posted: 8/5/2015 11:22:09 PM EDT
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I can detail strip a 1911 with nothing more than a spent casing and the parts within the gun. Let me see you do THAT with a Glock. Quote HistoryQuoted:
I can detail strip a 1911 with nothing more than a spent casing and the parts within the gun. Let me see you do THAT with a Glock. So the parts that break are completely drop-in, and don't need a gunsmith to fit them correctly on a fleet of 1911s? What are the current "good" 1911 magazines? SWAT teams are chock full of stupid shit for the gear queers with a fucking public budget. |
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Posted: 8/6/2015 3:28:22 AM EDT
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I ordered my Pro straight from Springfield Armory. Took 2 years and 5 months from when I ordered it to delivery.
I love it though! 
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Posted: 8/6/2015 3:35:58 AM EDT
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Every time I had to stop to screw in the guide rod on my Springfield to keep it from falling out I was just more convinced of the genius of the design.
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Posted: 8/6/2015 3:44:01 AM EDT
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Nothing like using a 104 year old design as the latest and greatest pistol on the market. We just entered a model T into the Daytona 500. 
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Posted: 8/6/2015 5:01:41 AM EDT
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Are 1911's like dating? One girl is perfect and will last you a lifetime but all of the other women you dated are broken and will give you a lifetime of misery. 1911's are funny like that. This. I see all the 1911 complaints about how they can't even make it through a day's shooting without any issue. Meanwhile I keep firing away with my Delta Elite, having never had a failure of any form (after moving on from my plastic wonderguns that would jam up on every other mag). It just seems to come down to the individual gun more than the design. |
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Posted: 8/6/2015 5:07:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryWait what. Why would i need any of this? All i need is a paperclip to completely detail strip my TRP slide assembly. Dont think there will be a paperclip panic anytime soon, but ill wait for the nutcase paranoid tinfoil prepper to tell me im wrong and ill die in a zombie apocalypse. |
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Posted: 8/6/2015 5:26:05 AM EDT
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Wow, they tested a bunch of 1911s and picked a 1911? Whoulda thunk it?
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Posted: 8/6/2015 8:29:42 AM EDT
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Lo fucking L
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Posted: 8/6/2015 8:32:53 AM EDT
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Every time I had to stop to screw in the guide rod on my Springfield to keep it from falling out I was just more convinced of the genius of the design. FLGR is completely unnecessary. And a heresy. |
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Posted: 8/6/2015 8:43:42 AM EDT
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What generation is the 1911 on now? None of the ones you guys are posting look like this
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Posted: 8/6/2015 8:46:42 AM EDT
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Every time I had to stop to screw in the guide rod on my Springfield to keep it from falling out I was just more convinced of the genius of the design. You need a GI setup, that isn't how they were designed. Professional model comes with GI setup |
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Posted: 8/6/2015 8:48:37 AM EDT
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What generation is the 1911 on now? None of the ones you guys are posting look like this http://media.liveauctiongroup.net/i/7482/8788226_2.jpg?v=8CC7F07099C3C90 To be fair. The 1911 is over 100 years old. Glocks now a days look quite a bit different than when they were first released as well, and its no where close to the age of the original 1911 design. Atleast the new and old 1911s come with metal sights
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Posted: 8/6/2015 8:48:52 AM EDT
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If I was an FBI agent I'd pimp a suit from JC Penny's and a S&W Model 65 with a 3" barrel.
Like a Boss.
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Posted: 8/6/2015 10:44:03 AM EDT
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What generation is the 1911 on now? None of the ones you guys are posting look like this http://media.liveauctiongroup.net/i/7482/8788226_2.jpg?v=8CC7F07099C3C90 there is 1911 and 1911 A1 not a mathematician, but I come up with 2
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Posted: 8/6/2015 10:48:42 AM EDT
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there is 1911 and 1911 A1 not a mathematician, but I come up with 2 Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What generation is the 1911 on now? None of the ones you guys are posting look like this http://media.liveauctiongroup.net/i/7482/8788226_2.jpg?v=8CC7F07099C3C90 there is 1911 and 1911 A1 not a mathematician, but I come up with 2 What about the 70 and 80 series? |
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Posted: 8/6/2015 10:49:29 AM EDT
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What generation is the 1911 on now? None of the ones you guys are posting look like this http://media.liveauctiongroup.net/i/7482/8788226_2.jpg?v=8CC7F07099C3C90 there is 1911 and 1911 A1 not a mathematician, but I come up with 2 What about the 70 and 80 series? There is only one series.... The other is blasphemy |
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Posted: 8/6/2015 11:02:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: there is 1911 and 1911 A1 not a mathematician, but I come up with 2 Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What generation is the 1911 on now? None of the ones you guys are posting look like this http://media.liveauctiongroup.net/i/7482/8788226_2.jpg?v=8CC7F07099C3C90 there is 1911 and 1911 A1 not a mathematician, but I come up with 2 What about the MEU(SOC), PRO, CQBP, etc? None of those look like a standard 1911 or A1 to me. |
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Posted: 8/6/2015 11:11:09 AM EDT
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a \"field suitability\" test Like what? How many women holding baby's they can kill? How many churches filled with kids they can burn down?
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