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Posted: 9/11/2017 7:09:13 PM EDT
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At least I have something to sell, what are you selling that is actually being considered in congress? That's right, nothing. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Stop trying to sell your No one's buying. You actually call what you're selling "Conservative Government Healthcare"! 
You are the dictionary definition of RINO. And you are critical of the RINOs in Congress, because they can't effectively pass their RINO bills! 
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Posted: 9/11/2017 7:12:28 PM EDT
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The lesson the NevaTrumper refuse to get, if you can not get all you want today, take what you can and come back for more tomorrow. If you can not get a full repeal, repeal what you can and come back at it again later, and do not stop till you get it all. That is how the Dems got us to where we are, same as the NRA and others pushed for CCW for the last 25 years. Because I'm getting tired of waiting for all the winning we were promised. Can you point me to some winning please? Edit: bonus points for not repeating "supreme court justice nomination" 50 times and claiming 50 wins. |
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Posted: 9/11/2017 7:15:02 PM EDT
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Repeal. 100%. You actually call what you're selling "Conservative Government Healthcare"!
You are the dictionary definition of RINO. And you are critical of the RINOs in Congress, because they can't effectively pass their RINO bills! 100% repeal was not being considered in congress. You lose. |
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Posted: 9/11/2017 7:23:41 PM EDT
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Skinny repeal is conservative. Not as conservative as Full repeal I admit but still it is something better than nothing. 100% repeal was not being considered in congress. You lose. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Repeal. 100%. You actually call what you're selling "Conservative Government Healthcare"!
You are the dictionary definition of RINO. And you are critical of the RINOs in Congress, because they can't effectively pass their RINO bills! 100% repeal was not being considered in congress. You lose. I do put most of the blame on the dickheads in Congress though in that case. |
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Posted: 9/11/2017 8:01:43 PM EDT
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Excellent - when is Trump planning to start doing this? Because I'm getting tired of waiting for all the winning we were promised. Can you point me to some winning please? Edit: bonus points for not repeating "supreme court justice nomination" 50 times and claiming 50 wins. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The lesson the NevaTrumper refuse to get, if you can not get all you want today, take what you can and come back for more tomorrow. If you can not get a full repeal, repeal what you can and come back at it again later, and do not stop till you get it all. That is how the Dems got us to where we are, same as the NRA and others pushed for CCW for the last 25 years. Because I'm getting tired of waiting for all the winning we were promised. Can you point me to some winning please? Edit: bonus points for not repeating "supreme court justice nomination" 50 times and claiming 50 wins. |
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Posted: 9/11/2017 8:07:40 PM EDT
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Still blaming Trump for the GOPe in Congress never intending to do a damn thing. Giving a complete pass to people who voted 50 times for Repeal, then tanked the vote when it actually mattered. As far as I am concerned Trump's only failure is he is not doing rallies demanding the political carcases of the GOPe leadership in Congress. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The lesson the NevaTrumper refuse to get, if you can not get all you want today, take what you can and come back for more tomorrow. If you can not get a full repeal, repeal what you can and come back at it again later, and do not stop till you get it all. That is how the Dems got us to where we are, same as the NRA and others pushed for CCW for the last 25 years. Because I'm getting tired of waiting for all the winning we were promised. Can you point me to some winning please? Edit: bonus points for not repeating "supreme court justice nomination" 50 times and claiming 50 wins. |
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Posted: 9/11/2017 8:13:09 PM EDT
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Skinny repeal is conservative. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Repeal. 100%. You actually call what you're selling "Conservative Government Healthcare"!
You are the dictionary definition of RINO. And you are critical of the RINOs in Congress, because they can't effectively pass their RINO bills! It is not at all "conservative." Calling it such is no less dishonest than naming it the "Affordable Care Act." Not as conservative as Full repeal I admit but still it is something better than nothing. When it comes to Government Healthcare, NOTHING is more conservative than SOMETHING. 100% repeal was not being considered in congress. You lose. |
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Posted: 9/11/2017 8:59:54 PM EDT
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RAISE THAT DEBT CEILING!
It's Official: Debt Tops $20 Trillion for First Time; Jumps $317,645,000,000 in 1 Day The federal debt officially surpassed $20 trillion for the first time on Friday, as the debt subject to the legal limit set by Congress jumped $317,645,000,000 in one day--following President Donald Trump's signing of a spending-and-debt-limit deal that will fund the government through Dec. 8. 
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Posted: 9/11/2017 9:09:51 PM EDT
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Nope. It is not a "repeal." Not even close. It merely amends Obamacare. It is not at all "conservative." Calling it such is no less dishonest than naming it the "Affordable Care Act." No. "Something" is not always better than nothing. When it comes to Government Healthcare, NOTHING is more conservative than SOMETHING. Stop trying to sell your RINO Government Healthcare. No one's buying what you're selling. |
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Posted: 9/11/2017 9:18:31 PM EDT
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At least I have something to sell, what are you selling that is actually being considered in congress? That's right, nothing. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Stop trying to sell your No one's buying. 
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Posted: 9/11/2017 9:25:40 PM EDT
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RAISE THAT DEBT CEILING! It's Official: Debt Tops $20 Trillion for First Time; Jumps $317,645,000,000 in 1 Day https://i.imgur.com/uNUDMdI.png Quote HistoryQuoted:
RAISE THAT DEBT CEILING! It's Official: Debt Tops $20 Trillion for First Time; Jumps $317,645,000,000 in 1 Day The federal debt officially surpassed $20 trillion for the first time on Friday, as the debt subject to the legal limit set by Congress jumped $317,645,000,000 in one day--following President Donald Trump's signing of a spending-and-debt-limit deal that will fund the government through Dec. 8. We're gonna erase the debt limit! What comes after Trillion? Seems we're gonna have to start learning that 15,000,000,000,000 ain't no thang |
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Posted: 9/11/2017 9:27:42 PM EDT
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Stop trying to sell your No one's buying.  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/11/2017 9:28:46 PM EDT
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Repeal. 100%. You actually call what you're selling "Conservative Government Healthcare"!
You are the dictionary definition of RINO. And you are critical of the RINOs in Congress, because they can't effectively pass their RINO bills! Your strange purity driven view on life makes it hard for you to understand but normal Americans know that Congress is fucking them even after they voted in a President to give Congress the chance to make good on it's promises. |
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Posted: 9/11/2017 9:35:16 PM EDT
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When Trump gave Congress the chance to own up to their 8 years of promises they couldn't even pass a single line of text to make life better for Americans. Your strange purity driven view on life makes it hard for you to understand but normal Americans know that Congress is fucking them even after they voted in a President to give Congress the chance to make good on it's promises. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Repeal. 100%. You actually call what you're selling "Conservative Government Healthcare"!
You are the dictionary definition of RINO. And you are critical of the RINOs in Congress, because they can't effectively pass their RINO bills! Your strange purity driven view on life makes it hard for you to understand but normal Americans know that Congress is fucking them even after they voted in a President to give Congress the chance to make good on it's promises. LoL |
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Posted: 9/11/2017 9:41:26 PM EDT
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When Trump gave Congress the chance to own up to their 8 years of promises they couldn't even pass a single line of text to make life better for Americans. Your strange purity driven view on life makes it hard for you to understand but normal Americans know that Congress is fucking them even after they voted in a President to give Congress the chance to make good on it's promises. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Repeal. 100%. You actually call what you're selling "Conservative Government Healthcare"!
You are the dictionary definition of RINO. And you are critical of the RINOs in Congress, because they can't effectively pass their RINO bills! Your strange purity driven view on life makes it hard for you to understand but normal Americans know that Congress is fucking them even after they voted in a President to give Congress the chance to make good on it's promises.
No. He was 100% fully behind the RINO effort to codify Obamacare. He lobbied for it and attacked conservatives who opposed it. It was the Ryan/Trump plan, to pretend it was not is to lie. |
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Posted: 9/11/2017 9:42:00 PM EDT
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He ran for president and won against all the establishment candidates.....that is one thing he has done. He ended Jeb's career. He sent Hillary to retirement and she may return for trial. McConnell and Ryan are not looking too hot to trot right now.  Huh... |
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Posted: 9/11/2017 9:46:33 PM EDT
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So 1 democrat has been hurt by trump. Numerous republicans have. Huh... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He ran for president and won against all the establishment candidates.....that is one thing he has done. He ended Jeb's career. He sent Hillary to retirement and she may return for trial. McConnell and Ryan are not looking too hot to trot right now. Huh... Huh... |
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Posted: 9/11/2017 9:48:48 PM EDT
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LOL.
#NEVERTRUMPER echo chamber thread.
Pretty sure all you chics are going to wake up tomorrow and Trump will still be President. That's never not funny, but don't feel impotent cause if you whine enough I am sure the Russian connection will bear fruit.
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Posted: 9/11/2017 9:50:04 PM EDT
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Okay, which one of you guys wrote this?
http://thefederalist.com/2017/09/11/schadenfreude-phase-trump-administration-hitting-already/ The Schadenfreude Phase Of The Trump Administration Is Hitting Already
Those of us who opposed Donald Trump from the beginning have passed beyond the #NeverTrump phase, past the “take what we can get” phase, and even past the cringing embarrassment that he’s the leader of our party. Now comes the cackling-maniacal-laughter schadenfreude stage. Yes, that’s right. This is so big that we need a really nasty German word to describe it. This is the stage some of us have been waiting for since the beginning: the stage when Trump tacks back to the Left and makes nice with Democrats—and not just any Democrats, but the worst of the swamp creatures. It’s the point where he wrecks every part of the supposed Republican agenda and sells out his core supporters, even as they struggle desperately to convince themselves that it’s all a super-smart feint to Make America Great Again. This phase was inaugurated with Trump’s meeting with congressional leaders last week over the debt ceiling, when he sold out congressional Republicans and cozied up with Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi to endorse their proposal to raise the debt ceiling for another three months with no bargaining and no conditions. Then, to rub salt into the wound, he tweeted—at Pelosi’s request—to re-assure illegal immigrants protected under the Obama administration’s DACA dispensation that he won’t deport them. Meanwhile, administration officials are hinting that Trump’s announcement that he will end the “Dreamer” program in six months unless congressional Republicans come up with a legislative replacement is just a bluff. After all, a big announcement followed by failure to follow through is entirely consistent with the art of the deal as practiced by Trump. So Trump supporters are now in a situation where it looks like, by the end of his first year in office, there will be no wall, no mass deportations, no Obamacare repeal, no tax reform—but there will be multiple extension of the debt ceiling and a permanent legislative version of amnesty for some illegal aliens. But hey, we’ll always have Neil Gorsuch!
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Posted: 9/11/2017 9:50:09 PM EDT
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His agenda doesn't work for Republicans but works for Democrats Huh... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He ran for president and won against all the establishment candidates.....that is one thing he has done. He ended Jeb's career. He sent Hillary to retirement and she may return for trial. McConnell and Ryan are not looking too hot to trot right now. Huh... Huh... Nevertrump loves democrats 
Especially when it goes against whatever trump and actual conservatives want |
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Posted: 9/11/2017 10:05:28 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/11/2017 10:06:33 PM EDT
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Okay, which one of you guys wrote this? http://thefederalist.com/2017/09/11/schadenfreude-phase-trump-administration-hitting-already/ Quote HistoryQuoted:
Okay, which one of you guys wrote this? http://thefederalist.com/2017/09/11/schadenfreude-phase-trump-administration-hitting-already/ The Schadenfreude Phase Of The Trump Administration Is Hitting Already
Those of us who opposed Donald Trump from the beginning have passed beyond the #NeverTrump phase, past the “take what we can get” phase, and even past the cringing embarrassment that he’s the leader of our party. Now comes the cackling-maniacal-laughter schadenfreude stage. Yes, that’s right. This is so big that we need a really nasty German word to describe it. This is the stage some of us have been waiting for since the beginning: the stage when Trump tacks back to the Left and makes nice with Democrats—and not just any Democrats, but the worst of the swamp creatures. It’s the point where he wrecks every part of the supposed Republican agenda and sells out his core supporters, even as they struggle desperately to convince themselves that it’s all a super-smart feint to Make America Great Again. This phase was inaugurated with Trump’s meeting with congressional leaders last week over the debt ceiling, when he sold out congressional Republicans and cozied up with Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi to endorse their proposal to raise the debt ceiling for another three months with no bargaining and no conditions. Then, to rub salt into the wound, he tweeted—at Pelosi’s request—to re-assure illegal immigrants protected under the Obama administration’s DACA dispensation that he won’t deport them. Meanwhile, administration officials are hinting that Trump’s announcement that he will end the “Dreamer” program in six months unless congressional Republicans come up with a legislative replacement is just a bluff. After all, a big announcement followed by failure to follow through is entirely consistent with the art of the deal as practiced by Trump. So Trump supporters are now in a situation where it looks like, by the end of his first year in office, there will be no wall, no mass deportations, no Obamacare repeal, no tax reform—but there will be multiple extension of the debt ceiling and a permanent legislative version of amnesty for some illegal aliens. But hey, we’ll always have Neil Gorsuch! |
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Posted: 9/11/2017 10:07:05 PM EDT
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So 1 democrat has been hurt by trump. Numerous Huh... You have to clean your own house before you clean the others. |
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Posted: 9/11/2017 10:12:37 PM EDT
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Ill take repeal over nothing. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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conservative Government Healthcare Do we need to get N0rcal in here? Repeal does not mean replace what we have and add a bunch of stuff we want to it |
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Posted: 9/11/2017 10:14:53 PM EDT
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Gave them the chance?
No. He was 100% fully behind the RINO effort to codify Obamacare. He lobbied for it and attacked conservatives who opposed it. It was the Ryan/Trump plan, to pretend it was not is to lie. |
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Posted: 9/11/2017 10:16:40 PM EDT
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Are you and RDak the same person? Do we need to get N0rcal in here? Repeal does not mean replace what we have and add a bunch of stuff we want to it |
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Posted: 9/11/2017 10:28:33 PM EDT
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We have moved from a President who was going to wade into the Swamp that is DC and drain it to one who was hired to "give Congress the chance" LoL |
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Posted: 9/11/2017 10:29:52 PM EDT
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The skinny repeal had nothing added to it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Are you and RDak the same person? Do we need to get N0rcal in here? Repeal does not mean replace what we have and add a bunch of stuff we want to it Not that they were bad (who doesn't want to defund Planned Parenthood and Increase the HSA limit?) But that still leaves a large portion of OCare intact Better to just bite the bullet and get the .fed out of Health Insurance |
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Posted: 9/11/2017 10:42:09 PM EDT
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There were a few additions in hopes of appealing to the Right Not that they were bad (who doesn't want to defund Planned Parenthood and Increase the HSA limit?) But that still leaves a large portion of OCare intact Better to just bite the bullet and get the .fed out of Health Insurance |
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Posted: 9/11/2017 11:08:11 PM EDT
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Well that should make you happy! Nevertrump loves democrats
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He ran for president and won against all the establishment candidates.....that is one thing he has done. He ended Jeb's career. He sent Hillary to retirement and she may return for trial. McConnell and Ryan are not looking too hot to trot right now. Huh... Huh... Nevertrump loves democrats
Especially when it goes against whatever trump and actual conservatives want Those who OPPOSE collaboration with the democrats, love the democrats? |
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Posted: 9/11/2017 11:11:49 PM EDT
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We can all admit the initial healthcare roll out was a clusterfuck and plenty of blame goes to Trump for that. Learning curves. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Gave them the chance?
No. He was 100% fully behind the RINO effort to codify Obamacare. He lobbied for it and attacked conservatives who opposed it. It was the Ryan/Trump plan, to pretend it was not is to lie. |
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Posted: 9/11/2017 11:17:25 PM EDT
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The skinny repeal had nothing added to it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Are you and RDak the same person? Do we need to get N0rcal in here? Repeal does not mean replace what we have and add a bunch of stuff we want to it |
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Posted: 9/11/2017 11:20:10 PM EDT
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Gosh, if only the GOP held the House and Senate and would pass such a bill! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There were a few additions in hopes of appealing to the Right Not that they were bad (who doesn't want to defund Planned Parenthood and Increase the HSA limit?) But that still leaves a large portion of OCare intact Better to just bite the bullet and get the .fed out of Health Insurance Fuck that piece of shit (not quite as bad as OCare) legislation The only result would be is it would become TrumpCare and forever be pinned to the Republicans Fuck that |
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Posted: 9/11/2017 11:21:44 PM EDT
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No way Fuck that piece of shit (not quite as bad as OCare) legislation The only result would be is it would become TrumpCare and forever be pinned to the Republicans Fuck that |
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Posted: 9/11/2017 11:32:28 PM EDT
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Sorry, misread your other post. I was whinging about the inability of the GOP to pass the simple 'repeal Obamacare' bill that died pretty much as soon as it was introduced. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No way Fuck that piece of shit (not quite as bad as OCare) legislation The only result would be is it would become TrumpCare and forever be pinned to the Republicans Fuck that |
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Posted: 9/12/2017 12:07:38 AM EDT
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Until Trump gets serious about smashing heads in DC, nothing meaningful will happen to OCare Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No way Fuck that piece of shit (not quite as bad as OCare) legislation The only result would be is it would become TrumpCare and forever be pinned to the Republicans Fuck that |
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Posted: 9/12/2017 12:14:10 AM EDT
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It's funny to see all the "NEVER GIVE UP! NEVER SURRENDER!" Making excuses that it's okay that Trump works with Dems.
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Posted: 9/12/2017 12:17:05 AM EDT
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I can not wait till Trump is re-elected, some of you might actually start posting pictures of yourselves self-harming in a rage that Trump stomped your TruCon do nothing hero crew.
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Posted: 9/12/2017 12:18:13 AM EDT
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Same posters and same Congress-critters trying to stop MAGA before and after the election.
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Posted: 9/12/2017 12:48:54 AM EDT
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Your attempt to deconstruct to try to say that any less than conservative actions renders a candidate "not conservative" is VERY sophisticated, in an academic-Marxist sort of way. Doubling down is even MORE "sophisticated." By any chance, are you wearing a tweed jacket and an ascot? 
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Posted: 9/12/2017 12:53:45 AM EDT
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Conservatives won major concessions with that healthcare repeal bill and you are pissing all of those wins away because "it wasn't good enough." 
All one of them (Paris agreement). Oh, and TPP. |
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Posted: 9/12/2017 1:11:34 AM EDT
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That is no indication that the people involved believed any statement by any candidate. In fact, a very good argument can be made that it is evidence of the other alternative. Of course, one has to be more experienced in politics to recognize that not everything is what it seems to be. What looks like a fumble on the 1 yard line to an political amateur like me is actually 27-dimensional underwater Parcheesi to a sophisticate like yourself.
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Posted: 9/12/2017 1:16:06 AM EDT
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You think John McCain is going to stand by his words when there is an election to win and people to manipulate? lol...you are setting yourself up to be lied to. Yes, skinny repeal was pure RINO BS but the biggest RINO of the Senate, John McCain, didn't vote for it. Skinny repeal was the most conservative healthcare bill you were going to get out of this Senate with the RINOs that are in power. You wouldn't know a good deal if you saw one.
"We must become liberals in order to defeat out of control liberalism!" Holy shit.
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Posted: 9/12/2017 1:23:00 AM EDT
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The only thing that's "suspect" is the intelligence of every NeverTrumper in this thread. Congress are the ones who have yet to pass anything that they promised. If you cannot acknowledge that they are the real problem then you have no intellectual credibility. Trump's a fighter! And a winner! He's a winning fighter that wins! Trump will never, ever back down to some cuck RINO in congress. Oh no! Trump's going to come in and backhand all of these cucks to get them in line with #MAGA.
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Posted: 9/12/2017 1:34:39 AM EDT
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Skinny repeal is conservative. Not as conservative as Full repeal I admit but still it is something better than nothing. 100% repeal was not being considered in congress. You lose. 
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Posted: 9/12/2017 1:48:05 AM EDT
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Well that should make you happy! Nevertrump loves democrats
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Posted: 9/12/2017 1:53:34 AM EDT
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Okay, which one of you guys wrote this? http://thefederalist.com/2017/09/11/schadenfreude-phase-trump-administration-hitting-already/ Chess, not checkers. Thinking 8 steps ahead. |
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Posted: 9/12/2017 6:18:57 AM EDT
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Does not compute. |
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Posted: 9/12/2017 7:00:50 AM EDT
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I can not wait till Trump is re-elected, some of you might actually start posting pictures of yourselves self-harming in a rage that Trump stomped your TruCon do nothing hero crew. 
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Posted: 9/12/2017 7:16:23 AM EDT
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RAISE THAT DEBT CEILING! It's Official: Debt Tops $20 Trillion for First Time; Jumps $317,645,000,000 in 1 Day https://i.imgur.com/uNUDMdI.png The debt didn't increase that much in one day. The government recognized that much additional debt. That was necessary because the government had been pretending that it hadn't exceeded the legal maximum. The media calls that an "accounting trick". Another day, another fraud in D.C.. |
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