in florida they can sell your tax lean if you don't pay your taxes but they can't kick you out for back taxes if it is your homestead. Also if your house is worth less than 25k (50k if you are 65+) you don't pay property taxes. Out in Colorado the tax on  our farmland is about $1/acre.

You really should shoot that asshole that dragged you over to Louisiana. In fact, please do; I've been sick for the past week trying to cough out a lung. Feel like I need to start smoking so I have a reason for the horrible hack.

Ja, ich auch bitte! Welcher Staat? Gibt's ähnliches in Niedersachsen?

Agreed, one time tax for the life of the ownership. Sell it, the new owner pays a one time sales tax.

The truth of the matter is that with real estate you are not 'Buying" the property as you would a pocket watch.

You are only buying certain rights to that property.

The Federal Gov , the State , the county and town could have certain rights along with utilities and other folks  or institutions could also have mineral,water or air rights.

The trick is to get a parcel that is so far out that none of this stuff is of any value to anyone else

Maybe you should make a Doctors appointment in Stanton.

Feel mo betta!

Brah do you even Fee Simple Estate?  Common-law back to William the Conqueror.  Property tax is the only legitimate tax.

Just an aside, Billy the C was also known as William the Bastard, successor to Edward the Confessor...or Eddy the C to his mates.

You can move a car but you don't truly own that either.

Oberfranken

thanks

nice area

You are both nuts.

Large numbers of cemetery plots.  I have had some in my family for generations.  Once you buy them outright in perpetual care, no further expense.

•Alaska is the largest of the United States; however, for all its vastness only a small portion of the land mass is subject to a property tax.
•There are approximately 321 communities in Alaska, many of which still remain unincorporated.
•There are 164 incorporated municipalities (local governments), 19 of which are incorporated into boroughs (boroughs are a rough equivalent to counties) and the remainder are incorporated as cities.
•Of the 19 boroughs in Alaska, only 15 levy a property tax.
•Only 9 cities located outside of boroughs levy a property tax; therefore, only 24 municipalities in Alaska (either cities or boroughs) levy a property tax.

You're saying they do this here?

Monaco, Malta, Cayman Islands, Cook Islands, Fiji, Dominica, Seychelles, Turks and Caicos, Sri Lanka, UAE,
Bahrain, Oman.

Dominica should have some deals now, they're basically rebuilding the island from scratch.

Jep, can also get it cheaper in the "east". I think last time I looked at a property in Sachsen it was a little less.

Obviously property as a whole is cheaper there... but I think you know this

Drive a car that is not registered/tax on a public road and they take it from you. You can ride a bike or walk on the same roads without registration/tax.

Ukraine.

I'm looking at an apartment that is over the minimum exemption so I expect to owe about $4/year, based on minimum wage/sq meter calculation.

I'm not guaranteed that Putin won't take it as collateral for all the bills the country owes.

You can own mineral rights indefinitely without paying property taxes in most states.

Even NY doesn't have a personal property tax on things like cars or boats and such.  Crazy that such a thing exists, I honestly had no idea that was a thing until like a year ago.

You can own the rights sure but if you own the land to which they are then you pay tax. If you sell the minerals you pay tax. If you sell the rights you pay tax.

Isn't moorage extremely expensive. Boats also require a huge amount of money for maintenance.

And probably also requires EU citizenship

William the Conqueror began the concept of a life estate in real property (i.e. owning property by individuals).  Prior to that, everything was owned by the king.  This was a simple estate, with full rights to do with it what the owner pleased, and it could not be taken away.  The 'fee' paid to the king was service in the king's army as a knight, when called upon by the king.  Thus, the fee simple estate.  It is what makes America great to this day.  The fee quickly became monetary, as you could get killed in a war.  Truly, real property tax is the only legitimate tax in nay of the commonwealth countries.

You could sell it before it came to that.

As with anything.

Yet some states tax non-producing minerals.

Can you live on ag land and still have it qualify as ag land?

Can you live on a classified wildlife area?

Most states tax minerals as soon as they start generating income. It's called severance tax. They tax it as soon as they can assign a value to the property.

Yeah, it's pretty crazy to want to actually own something

Go shit in somebody else's thread.

What OP is looking for is allodial title, and I am not aware of any part of the US that grants that.

With alloidal title you are not subject to property tax, nor can eminent domain be used to seize it.

Not a bad idea but from what I've seen on TV it's hard to live off the land there with the harsh winters and short growing season.

Yes. If you own 10 acres you homestead 2 and pay regular taxes.
The rest you ag.

They use aerial photomapping to keep track of the outbuildings and make updates to their records of what improvements you have made to the property.

Earth sheltered structures are hard to spot with aerial photomaps.  Building under the cover of large trees seems to have some effectiveness for small structures, but they eventually found out about the cabin on a neighboring parcel (been there since at least the 1970s, and they finally added the cabin to the parcel maps a couple years ago). Must have finally done an update in the winter, when the leaves were off the trees.

Nashville started doing that, five or six years ago.

No such thing as properly ownership as long as you have to pay the tax man. It’s just cheap rent.

church?

Saw the aerial photos that my county uses. Any better and they would have known the last time I picked up dog turds.

A properly filed land patent takes care of the part in red see Summa Corp vs. CA.

Wyoming agricultural land is taxed based on it's production value, that is what the crops or livestock it produces is worth.  Not on it's resale value.

Which is good to keep land in the family.  A ranch around Jackson taxed on it's value as a development property could not hope to pay the taxes

by running a hundred head of cows.

You don't own that.......

Good luck. I don’t mind paying for some services with taxes. Fire, EMS, and a road to get to my house...

What about voting? Should those who do not own property/pay the tax be limited to what they can vote on?

ETA: And limited to what services they can use?

A whole lot of sticks had to fall just the right way for that to happen.  The Treaty of 1851 is an exception, not a rule.  And the only reason CA signed off on the patent in 1873 is because it's a body of water, not arable land.

Wait, if I'm paying property taxes on 2 acres anyway, what's the ag part for?

No. If you could, everyone would be doing it.

I suppose. The more I learn, the more I realize how little freedom we actually have as tax cattle.

There are a couple of States that still grant allodial titles to the land.  I can't remember which ones for sure, but IIRC they are NV and TX, but I could be quite wrong regarding which ones.

The modern implementation is for a person to pay up front the projected property taxes that the land would be expected to provide over the owner's projected lifetime from that point on.  If granted, and the monies paid, the person receives a title which gives him much more absolute ownership rights (IIRC, there may be some protections against eminent domain and other seizures by the State; historically, such titles definitely offered protection as the owner in essence had eminent domain over the land rather than the state or some other person or entity, such as a feudal lord or monarch) and no further need to pay property taxes of any sort, even if they go up and would exceed what was paid, or new ones are levied.  However, unlike many historical allodial titles, they are not inheritable by heirs and cannot be sold or transferred as such.  Upon sale or transfer, or the death of the owner, the allodial nature of the title is terminated.  The new owner would have to apply for such a title himself and pay up again.  Such titles only are worth something with respect to State and local governments; they have no impact on Federal taxation of property (direct taxes were sometimes assessed as property taxes) or Federal eminent domain.

Personally, I think that there should indeed be a title that does indeed grant you absolute rights, freeing it from seizure or use by the government for any purpose other than as punishment for a felony; freeing it from any usage regulations and the like that do not impact the health, safety, or property of others; freeing it from any further taxation; which includes mineral/subsurface rights and such; and that there should be an ability to get it recognized by the Federal government as such, ceding eminent domain over the land.  There should also be an option for such titles to be either lifetime, inheritable, or fully transferrable.  Basically, the State would assess the potential for use by the State or local government for essential purposes, and if it finds that there isn't a high probability of a need to acquire the property for such essential use (whether by purchase from a voluntary seller or the use of force via an eminent domain proceeding), and suitable monies are paid, the title is granted.  The fees should be reasonable, though, with higher fees being allowed for more permanent or transferrable titles.

Ag part is the other 8 acres.
Much cheaper.