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Posted: 11/29/2019 2:20:44 PM EDT
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They're going to have to arrest that guy on VA's State flag. 
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Posted: 11/29/2019 2:20:59 PM EDT
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For everyone that is outraged enough to not bother reading the entire thing, including the existing language in the proposal, here is the original law with that same language that has been in place for 32 years.https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/18.2-433.2/
While I agree that the dems are going to go scorched earth next year, this law isn't about what people think it is. And it's probably being amended as a result of the Charlottesville circus. Thd section 3 being proposed is most likely in reference to the whities marchig with torches. But feel free to continue the misplaced outrage. 
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Posted: 11/29/2019 2:27:48 PM EDT
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No, this is part of a planned stalking horse approach to passing what they really want
they will compromise on this one, to get their AWB |
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Posted: 11/29/2019 2:32:05 PM EDT
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Lolololol ol. Honk honk Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They also want to make it a felony to teach BJJ, Krav, or other Martial Arts. Lol Honk honk |
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Posted: 11/29/2019 2:37:01 PM EDT
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Northam and goons are going balls to the wall. Unbelievable https://www.mom-at-arms.com/post/virginia-legislators-double-down-paramilitary-activity-firearms-training-to-be-a-felony  And does this law make it illegal for a guy in another state to make a YouTube video of training with a AR that can be seen in Va?
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Posted: 11/29/2019 2:44:29 PM EDT
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Virginia being communist.
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Posted: 11/29/2019 2:46:28 PM EDT
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For everyone that is outraged enough to not bother reading the entire thing, including the existing language in the proposal, here is the original law with that same language that has been in place for 32 years.https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/18.2-433.2/ While I agree that the dems are going to go scorched earth next year, this law isn't about what people think it is. And it's probably being amended as a result of the Charlottesville circus. Thd section 3 being proposed is most likely in reference to the whities marchig with torches. But feel free to continue the misplaced outrage. § 18.2-433.2. Paramilitary activity prohibited. A person shall be guilty of unlawful paramilitary activity, punishable as a Class 5 felony if he: 1. Teaches or demonstrates to any other person the use, application, or making of any firearm, explosive or incendiary device, or technique capable of causing injury or death to persons, knowing or having reason to know or intending that such training will be employed for use in, or in furtherance of, a civil disorder; or 2. Assembles with one or more persons for the purpose of training with, practicing with, or being instructed in the use of any firearm, explosive or incendiary device, or technique capable of causing injury or death to persons, intending to employ such training for use in, or in furtherance of, a civil disorder. 1987, c. 720. These pre-crimes suck ass. |
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Posted: 11/29/2019 2:46:37 PM EDT
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Place is rife with them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Do muslims have any of their summer camps in VA? Consider this, a church based range would be very hard to shut down as would the religious training actives that might go on there. How about The Saints Adrian and Natalia of Nicomedia Gun Range......They are the patron saints of arms dealers, butchers, guards, and soldiers.
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Posted: 11/29/2019 2:57:58 PM EDT
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Holeee Fook ??
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Posted: 11/29/2019 2:59:21 PM EDT
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The tree of liberty is looking wilted in Virginia. It needs to be watered.
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Posted: 11/29/2019 3:04:45 PM EDT
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Sooooo...........the second civil war is going to start where the first did?
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Posted: 11/29/2019 3:07:31 PM EDT
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That the Democratic party exists, and regularly receives lots of votes, is disgraceful.
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Posted: 11/29/2019 3:08:14 PM EDT
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For everyone that is outraged enough to not bother reading the entire thing, including the existing language in the proposal, here is the original law with that same language that has been in place for 32 years.https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/18.2-433.2/ While I agree that the dems are going to go scorched earth next year, this law isn't about what people think it is. And it's probably being amended as a result of the Charlottesville circus. Thd section 3 being proposed is most likely in reference to the whities marchig with torches. But feel free to continue the misplaced outrage. They're using what happened in Cville as an excuse, but what they want is to prohibit carrying firearms in public, particularly at a demonstration. It's not to impossible to make am arguement that a rally/demonstration isnt meant to intimidate the public and/or politicians. So simply by showing up and openly carrying firearms, you'd be in violation of the law. The ironic part was that the "militia" groups that were at Cville did more to keep the peace than the police did. |
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Posted: 11/29/2019 3:22:57 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/29/2019 3:25:40 PM EDT
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Sooooo...........the second civil war is going to start where the first did?  Attached File |
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Posted: 11/29/2019 3:30:44 PM EDT
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They added that third part though. They're using what happened in Cville as an excuse, but what they want is to prohibit carrying firearms in public, particularly at a demonstration. It's not to impossible to make am arguement that a rally/demonstration isnt meant to intimidate the public and/or politicians. So simply by showing up and openly carrying firearms, you'd be in violation of the law. The ironic part was that the "militia" groups that were at Cville did more to keep the peace than the police did. https://www.mom-at-arms.com/post/virginia-democrats-part-2-an-assessment |
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Posted: 11/29/2019 3:46:10 PM EDT
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First, this is fake news. Second, dupe. Dupe. Read it to see why this legislation isn't what you think it does. 
You serious, Clark? |
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Posted: 11/29/2019 3:50:11 PM EDT
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SIc semper tyrannis
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Posted: 11/29/2019 3:54:44 PM EDT
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Damn, some folks in VA want a war. 
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Posted: 11/29/2019 3:55:00 PM EDT
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 Judas Priest - Rapid Fire (Live At The Seminole Hard Rock Arena) |
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Posted: 11/29/2019 4:25:32 PM EDT
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Two more points here -
First, that CVille bullshit was what, almost three years ago? The legislature has been in session since then, and no weapons caused any harm (but a car might have and that guy has already been tried and convicted), so pointing to CVille as the catalyst for this is bullshit. Second, if you read the words, it doesn't mention openly carried, just possession of a firearm. So even if you're carrying concealed, you're now a felon. |
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Posted: 11/29/2019 4:34:54 PM EDT
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Yup, this isn't about their version of safety, lke their abortion bill this is because they hate you with every bone of their body. Nothing more nothing less. |
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Posted: 11/29/2019 4:40:08 PM EDT
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Two more points here - First, that CVille bullshit was what, almost three years ago? The legislature has been in session since then, and no weapons caused any harm (but a car might have and that guy has already been tried and convicted), so pointing to CVille as the catalyst for this is bullshit. Second, if you read the words, it doesn't mention openly carried, just possession of a firearm. So even if you're carrying concealed, you're now a felon. And 100% on the “second” part. |
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Posted: 11/29/2019 4:46:30 PM EDT
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VA got what it wanted, anti-constitution Socialists. I can't imagine it ever passing muster in the courts but that doesn't mean they can't rig that too.
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Posted: 11/29/2019 4:50:20 PM EDT
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This is aimed at VCDL's lobby day and similar events. I just did yesterday and will again tommorrow |
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Posted: 11/29/2019 4:52:31 PM EDT
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It might be cold enough to build an igloo soon.
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Posted: 11/29/2019 4:53:20 PM EDT
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If those statutes are read carefully (reading is for faggots) it appears these laws will impact ANTIFA, Black Lives Matter, Blank Panthers and the racist skinhead type groups rather than a bunch of nerdy white guys going to a carbine class or the shootin' range. The part about and does not apply to regular training classes or range shooting UNLESS the instructor, range officer or self appointed range leader starts shouting orders about needing to learn to shoot down democrats, liberals, etc while doing the training and then going and doing so. I'm sure arfcom will interpret it differently, but from reading those statutes the leftist groups who DO train to create disorder, intimidation and deaths would be the ones in violation. It has never been part of the Constitution that we can train in the use of firearms or use firearms to create civil unrest, intimidation or deaths. While we all fantasize about overthrowing a Biden or Warren government by force it would still be illegal. But by the time we get to the needing shooting part, it won't matter anyway, nor will this VA law if passed. No, Evil never goes against other evil. It will be used against those badthink Virginians that are organizing to resist the left. |
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Posted: 11/29/2019 4:58:52 PM EDT
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For everyone that is outraged enough to not bother reading the entire thing, including the existing language in the proposal, here is the original law with that same language that has been in place for 32 years.https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/18.2-433.2/ While I agree that the dems are going to go scorched earth next year, this law isn't about what people think it is. And it's probably being amended as a result of the Charlottesville circus. Thd section 3 being proposed is most likely in reference to the whities marchig with torches. But feel free to continue the misplaced outrage. Why are you supporting such BS? |
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Posted: 11/29/2019 4:58:58 PM EDT
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For everyone that is outraged enough to not bother reading the entire thing, including the existing language in the proposal, here is the original law with that same language that has been in place for 32 years.https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/18.2-433.2/ While I agree that the dems are going to go scorched earth next year, this law isn't about what people think it is. And it's probably being amended as a result of the Charlottesville circus. Thd section 3 being proposed is most likely in reference to the whities marchig with torches. But feel free to continue the misplaced outrage. 3. Assembles with one or more persons with the intent of intimidating any person or group of persons by drilling, parading, or marching with any firearm, any explosive or incendiary device, or any components or combination thereof. Now that would seem to me to be a way to charge you with a Class Five felony by easily intimidated dems and their supporting LEO minions. How dare the "great unwashed rise in defense of their enumerated rights set down in both the Virginia and US Bill of rights......Are you clued-in now? 
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Posted: 11/29/2019 5:05:22 PM EDT
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-Remember nearly all lefties considered merely disagreeing with them "Threatening"..
- Also I just donated another $100 to the Virginian Defense League on top of the 100 USD from yesterday. I may not live in Virginia anymore but this does not mean I do not recognize them as a critical front right now. I donated to Cali good guys before I will donate to VA good guys now... Please consider donating fellas. https://www.vcdl.org/ Click me |
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Posted: 11/29/2019 5:06:20 PM EDT
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IMO this is at least 50% to be blamed on the Republicans. It's been clear for at least a decade now where this has been going and what the democrats are about and the Republicans sit on their hands and accomplish nothing when they are in power. They did it under W and they did the same under Trump.
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Posted: 11/29/2019 5:08:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The left has been working on banning Christianity for quite a while now. |
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Posted: 11/29/2019 5:08:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You may want to pay attention to the little add-on they made. 3. Assembles with one or more persons with the intent of intimidating any person or group of persons by drilling, parading, or marching with any firearm, any explosive or incendiary device, or any components or combination thereof. Now that would seem to me to be a way to charge you with a Class Five felony by easily intimidated dems and their supporting LEO minions. How dare the "great unwashed rise in defense of their enumerated rights set down in both the Virginia and US Bill of rights......Are you clued-in now? |
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Posted: 11/29/2019 5:10:02 PM EDT
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"We love Trump, he's our best ally," joked state Sen. Lionell Spruill. "The more that crazy white man talks, the better it is for us." |
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Posted: 11/29/2019 5:11:52 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/29/2019 5:20:58 PM EDT
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The first two provisions of the law regarding paramilitary activity have been on the books since 1987 in VA. The only thing new is the third provision about open carry with intent to intimidate and over two dozen states have similar statutes on the books, to include open carry friendly states. The only four states that dont have something like this on the books regarding paramilitary activity, iirc, are HI, AK, UT and ME. ETA -- There is also an existing statute with a bunch of exceptions to these provisions that people dont knownexists, because they don't bother to use the google machine or read the relevant statutes. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: How is it fake? https://i.imgur.com/FUYjc1jl.jpg http://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?201+ful+SB64+hil The only thing new is the third provision about open carry with intent to intimidate and over two dozen states have similar statutes on the books, to include open carry friendly states. The only four states that dont have something like this on the books regarding paramilitary activity, iirc, are HI, AK, UT and ME. ETA -- There is also an existing statute with a bunch of exceptions to these provisions that people dont knownexists, because they don't bother to use the google machine or read the relevant statutes. |
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Posted: 11/29/2019 5:22:38 PM EDT
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They scared |
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Posted: 11/29/2019 5:24:03 PM EDT
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This is aimed at VCDL's lobby day and similar events. |
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Posted: 11/29/2019 5:25:06 PM EDT
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If those statutes are read carefully (reading is for faggots) it appears these laws will impact ANTIFA, Black Lives Matter, Blank Panthers and the racist skinhead type groups rather than a bunch of nerdy white guys going to a carbine class or the shootin' range. The part about and does not apply to regular training classes or range shooting UNLESS the instructor, range officer or self appointed range leader starts shouting orders about needing to learn to shoot down democrats, liberals, etc while doing the training and then going and doing so. I'm sure arfcom will interpret it differently, but from reading those statutes the leftist groups who DO train to create disorder, intimidation and deaths would be the ones in violation. It has never been part of the Constitution that we can train in the use of firearms or use firearms to create civil unrest, intimidation or deaths. While we all fantasize about overthrowing a Biden or Warren government by force it would still be illegal. But by the time we get to the needing shooting part, it won't matter anyway, nor will this VA law if passed. 
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Posted: 11/29/2019 5:33:18 PM EDT
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Soooooo.... gun ranges are now illegal in VA? It's like VA has become NY's autistic half-brother or something. |
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Posted: 11/29/2019 5:35:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe, but probably has more to do with the whities that marched with torches in Charottesville. |
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Posted: 11/29/2019 5:38:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There's a mosque west of Danville on 58 out in the middle of nowhere. What do you think? https://www.gishgallop.com/armed-patriots-raid-suspected-terrorist-training-camp-in-virginia/ |
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Posted: 11/29/2019 5:47:46 PM EDT
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That’s a spoof.
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Posted: 11/29/2019 5:47:53 PM EDT
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Won't be the first time yankee interlopers have forced their unconstitutional laws on the Old Dominion state. Lots of statues and monuments and too many graveyards full of soldiers on both sides in that state. Seems only right to push the envelope in the capital. They will arrest some people for their silly unconstitutional laws but they will find out that number will end before they are through. The ghosts of the past will fill the hearts of true patriots and guide their beliefs and actions. |
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Posted: 11/29/2019 5:54:09 PM EDT
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If those statutes are read carefully (reading is for faggots) it appears these laws will impact ANTIFA, Black Lives Matter, Blank Panthers and the racist skinhead type groups rather than a bunch of nerdy white guys going to a carbine class or the shootin' range. The part about and does not apply to regular training classes or range shooting UNLESS the instructor, range officer or self appointed range leader starts shouting orders about needing to learn to shoot down democrats, liberals, etc while doing the training and then going and doing so. I'm sure arfcom will interpret it differently, but from reading those statutes the leftist groups who DO train to create disorder, intimidation and deaths would be the ones in violation. It has never been part of the Constitution that we can train in the use of firearms or use firearms to create civil unrest, intimidation or deaths. While we all fantasize about overthrowing a Biden or Warren government by force it would still be illegal. But by the time we get to the needing shooting part, it won't matter anyway, nor will this VA law if passed. |
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Posted: 11/29/2019 6:17:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nice try, but no. You might try actually reading the statutes you think are similar to what Va is proposing. |
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Posted: 11/29/2019 6:23:32 PM EDT
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Comply?
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Posted: 11/29/2019 6:32:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: yes donate to VCDL!! I just did yesterday and will again tommorrow Seems like a better use of my money than buy all these Black Friday Ammo deals.. if I cant shoot my stuff anyway (or only very rarely with lots of precautions which means almost certainly a lot less than I have been.) |
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Posted: 11/29/2019 7:19:43 PM EDT
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She literally looks like one of the villains from the Hunger Games. Quote HistoryQuoted:
She literally looks like one of the villains from the Hunger Games.
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Posted: 11/29/2019 8:22:12 PM EDT
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