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Posted: 7/14/2021 9:24:35 AM EDT
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If we apply the scientific method to our decisions. European observations would dictate we set aside a large percentage of parking in all of our landfills for electric cars.
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Posted: 7/14/2021 9:26:09 AM EDT
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The non-renters will park there, especially if the spots are near a laundry room.
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Posted: 7/14/2021 9:26:48 AM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Because people that live in apartments have enough money to afford electric vehicles?  I love watching mental illness in action. My last apartment was near $3k/month. Lots of people had Teslas. |
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Posted: 7/14/2021 9:29:52 AM EDT
[#4]
Environmentalist: Stop Paving Everything!
Also Environmentalist: Mandate that 10% of paved places go mostly unused |
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Posted: 7/14/2021 9:30:48 AM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So much this! Why does everything need to mandated and regulated by government??? Never listened to the guy who helped "trick" Americans into Obamacare? |
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Posted: 7/14/2021 9:33:19 AM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So much this! Why does everything need to mandated and regulated by government??? How do you feel about parking minimums? |
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Posted: 7/14/2021 10:39:03 AM EDT
[#7]
Why don't these little tyrants buy their own complexes and configure their own parking? It's like they think that they own other people's property.
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Posted: 7/14/2021 11:22:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The non-renters will park there, especially if the spots are near a laundry room. Towing is a thing. |
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Posted: 7/14/2021 11:23:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Have they also decided where to locate the new power plant and fuel to be used? Coal, NG, Nuclear, Hydro, Solar Farm (  )........WA exports hydropower. |
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Posted: 7/14/2021 11:28:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Power generation doesnt do any good if the delivery system fails. Power outages are mostly a thing for suburban, exurban and rural people who require miles of lines that already are costing the utility tens of thousands of dollars a month. Those people are last on the list for getting their power restored after a doug fir drops on it. If you’re in a denser area like where apartments are located your lines are more likely to be buried and they are a higher priority when service is down. |
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Posted: 7/14/2021 11:28:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What is 10% of zero? Split parking into a separate corporation that bills per space. Most people don’t realize that they are paying $150+ dollars a month for parking in their apartment already. |
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Posted: 7/14/2021 11:30:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why don't these little tyrants buy their own complexes and configure their own parking? It's like they think that they own other people's property. The larger problem is that cities will ban on street parking and require lots of off street parking at tremendous expense. |
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Posted: 7/14/2021 11:31:33 AM EDT
[#13]
Very smart.
If they were really progressive they would mandate a certain amount of space be left open for horse grazing too. |
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Posted: 7/14/2021 11:32:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: KingCo can go choke on a bag of ev powered dildos I’m mazawakhan and I approve of this message. |
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Posted: 7/14/2021 11:32:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So much this! Why does everything need to mandated and regulated by government??? Because government knows best.   Socialist always look to the government to solve all problems, or at least throw money at the problem so they can skim their cut off the top for themselves and their people.
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Posted: 7/14/2021 11:34:28 AM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I mean look at the prices of apartments in King county. The shitty apartment I lived in in Renton is now more per month than my mortgage. |
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Posted: 7/14/2021 11:35:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The free market should decide this. Yes, but that allows no room for Democratic Socialism.  Liberalism destroys everything it touches - name anything positive that have come from the countless trillions spent on Socialist causes. |
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Posted: 7/14/2021 11:37:11 AM EDT
[#18]
I wish my apt complex had chargers. I'm not buying a plug-in hybrid because they don't have them.
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Posted: 7/14/2021 3:05:31 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Jokes on them when there is no parking built because everyone is supposed to ride their bikes or take mass transit. You don't like larping as a Chicom peasant/pleb? 
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Posted: 7/14/2021 3:09:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why don't these little tyrants buy their own complexes and configure their own parking? It's like they think that they own other people's property. They do. 
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Posted: 7/14/2021 3:12:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Electric infrastructure in Washington is probably the best in the country. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Fucking idiots completely ignore the fact that our power infrastructure absolutely cannot support the electric car only dream these morons have up here Electric infrastructure in Washington is probably the best in the country. So if the best can't even support it what does that say.... 
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Posted: 7/14/2021 3:14:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wow, finally something Illinois can be proud of! Must be an oversight, we'll get right on it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Wow, finally something Illinois can be proud of! Must be an oversight, we'll get right on it. 
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Posted: 7/14/2021 3:15:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, but that allows no room for Democratic Socialism. Liberalism destroys everything it touches - name anything positive that have come from the countless trillions spent on Socialist causes. Do you think parking minimums should be eliminated for new construction to allow for the markets influence to be more present? |
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Posted: 7/14/2021 3:26:40 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: When Puerto Rico's power is more stable than Washington's. Oooof To be fair, it's hard to have a power outage when you still don't have power back from the last one. |
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Posted: 7/14/2021 5:07:06 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Until it does. The company that figures out the answer to this equation is the next xxx billion $ company. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Fucking idiots completely ignore the fact that our power infrastructure absolutely cannot support the electric car only dream these morons have up here Until it does. The company that figures out the answer to this equation is the next xxx billion $ company. That’s a fact |
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Posted: 7/14/2021 5:28:18 PM EDT
[#26]
I fail to understand the outrage here.
Yeah, sure, it’d be better to let “the market”, whatever that means anymore, decide how many EV parking spots an apartment complex has, but we’re talking about a liberal city (which is damn near all of them) in a liberal state (which is damn near half of them). Cities mandating silly things is old news. A developer who doesn’t like the mandate is free to go build somewhere else… half a dozen will line up to build there instead. I might think that a lot of the people who drive EV’s are douches, but there’s no denying that the technology is maturing and represents the future. It’s not like we started using IC motor vehicles because we’d perfected oil drilling and refining and had some huge surplus of liquid fuels sitting around. Most city dwellers honestly would be better served having EV’s than IC’s. I’m all for offering amenities to city dwellers that attract them to cities and keep them there. |
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Posted: 7/14/2021 5:47:02 PM EDT
[#27]
It’s countywide but mostly apartments are built in the urban part. Charging stations are cheap enough in new construction that if you weren’t doing this even without a mandate, you’re wrong.
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Posted: 7/14/2021 10:16:07 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That’s a fact Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Fucking idiots completely ignore the fact that our power infrastructure absolutely cannot support the electric car only dream these morons have up here Until it does. The company that figures out the answer to this equation is the next xxx billion $ company. That’s a fact And how long will that take? The problem is being legislated on a FF track. Is the solution development progressing at a similar rate? |
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Posted: 7/15/2021 12:58:57 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I fail to understand the outrage here. Yeah, sure, it’d be better to let “the market”, whatever that means anymore, decide how many EV parking spots an apartment complex has, but we’re talking about a liberal city (which is damn near all of them) in a liberal state (which is damn near half of them). Cities mandating silly things is old news. A developer who doesn’t like the mandate is free to go build somewhere else… half a dozen will line up to build there instead. I might think that a lot of the people who drive EV’s are douches, but there’s no denying that the technology is maturing and represents the future. It’s not like we started using IC motor vehicles because we’d perfected oil drilling and refining and had some huge surplus of liquid fuels sitting around. Most city dwellers honestly would be better served having EV’s than IC’s. I’m all for offering amenities to city dwellers that attract them to cities and keep them there. Yeah, sure, they forced me to watch them beat my parents to death with a baseball bat, rape my younger sister, boil my dog alive and burn down our house - but I fail to understand the outrage here. |
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Posted: 7/15/2021 1:03:56 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Well that’s one way to make the rent go up. Gazinga! |
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Posted: 7/15/2021 1:22:10 AM EDT
[#31]
king county, Washington state... saving the planet one billion dollars at a time...
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Posted: 7/15/2021 1:29:56 AM EDT
[#32]
Come to Alaska! Most of the apartment complexes have electrical plug in's for block heaters in the winter! Normal!!!!
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Posted: 7/15/2021 1:45:12 AM EDT
[#33]
That makes perfect sense to reduce the carbon footprint
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Posted: 7/15/2021 2:00:44 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: king county, Washington state... saving the planet one billion dollars at a time... Washington set the blueprint for Mail in election fraud in the country, so why not move onto the next scam |
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Posted: 7/15/2021 8:36:04 AM EDT
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If I rented an apartment that had a large percentage of parking spaces marked off for handicapped or EV's.
I would either have a handicapped tag or a fake plug installed on my car so I could "plug" into the charging station. Who looks to see if a car is charging anyway if the "plug" is connected to a car in that spot. Too many spaces marked off for different BS. |
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Posted: 7/15/2021 8:40:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And, there are enough EV drivers that this would probably draw renters as an incentive. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Fucking idiots completely ignore the fact that our power infrastructure absolutely cannot support the electric car only dream these morons have up here Electric infrastructure in Washington is probably the best in the country. And, there are enough EV drivers that this would probably draw renters as an incentive. So the mandate is unnecessary. |
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Posted: 7/15/2021 8:42:58 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We’re talking about the generation capacity to handle EVs. Hydro is a good setup for that. The lines are a separate issue, until you’re willing to pay for buries lines there’s not much to be done about that. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: yeah okay bud.  wrong again... power goes out in Lakewood, Tacoma, Puyallup, University Place.. everywhere, so that dumbass argument is busted. We’re talking about the generation capacity to handle EVs. Hydro is a good setup for that. The lines are a separate issue, until you’re willing to pay for buries lines there’s not much to be done about that. You were talking about infrastructure and by the outage map it looks pretty poor compared to most states. |
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Posted: 7/15/2021 8:46:45 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You were talking about infrastructure and by the outage map it looks pretty poor compared to most states. I’m talking about generation capacity. The trees are tall sbd have shallow roots, thats a different issue. |
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Posted: 7/15/2021 8:50:13 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That’s a fact Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Fucking idiots completely ignore the fact that our power infrastructure absolutely cannot support the electric car only dream these morons have up here Until it does. The company that figures out the answer to this equation is the next xxx billion $ company. That’s a fact There is no magic solution. It will take an outrageously huge amount of money to do what needs to be done if we go all electric. The technology exists. |
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Posted: 7/15/2021 8:54:27 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Fucking idiots completely ignore the fact that our power infrastructure absolutely cannot support the electric car only dream these morons have up here It can. If most people aren't allowed to have cars and those that do are using smart chargers that only allow them to charge when permitted to do so. |
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Posted: 7/15/2021 8:56:30 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I fail to understand the outrage here. Yeah, sure, it’d be better to let “the market”, whatever that means anymore, decide how many EV parking spots an apartment complex has, but we’re talking about a liberal city (which is damn near all of them) in a liberal state (which is damn near half of them). Cities mandating silly things is old news. A developer who doesn’t like the mandate is free to go build somewhere else… half a dozen will line up to build there instead. I might think that a lot of the people who drive EV’s are douches, but there’s no denying that the technology is maturing and represents the future. It’s not like we started using IC motor vehicles because we’d perfected oil drilling and refining and had some huge surplus of liquid fuels sitting around. Most city dwellers honestly would be better served having EV’s than IC’s. I’m all for offering amenities to city dwellers that attract them to cities and keep them there. If you fail to see the problem then you are part of it. Government should not mandate these things. I will grudgingly accept building standards for safety but this is well beyond that. |
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Posted: 7/15/2021 8:56:42 AM EDT
[#42]
Doesn't say it has to be free. Install chargers that take credit cards and charge enough to make a profit. Just like the washers and driers in the laundry room.
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Posted: 7/15/2021 8:58:47 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m talking about generation capacity. The trees are tall sbd have shallow roots, thats a different issue. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You were talking about infrastructure and by the outage map it looks pretty poor compared to most states. I’m talking about generation capacity. The trees are tall sbd have shallow roots, thats a different issue. No, you said infrastructure in your initial post. You are now backpedaling. It is ok to admit you were mistaken. |
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Posted: 7/15/2021 9:00:23 AM EDT
[#44]
JFC, I am continually amazed at how many here support government overreach and don’t believe in a free market.
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Posted: 7/15/2021 9:06:25 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Well that's one way to make the rent go up. |
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Posted: 7/15/2021 9:11:55 AM EDT
[#46]
My truck has a battery that I can plug into the wall to charge.
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Posted: 7/15/2021 9:17:37 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol - power goes out more here than when I lived in Texas. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Electric infrastructure in Washington is probably the best in the country. Lol - power goes out more here than when I lived in Texas. Agreed! I lived there for 22 years and 27 here in Southern Oklahoma and the power went off up there for days for alittle bit of wind. Down here our shit stands up to winds higher! And on top of that we got tornadoes on a yearly. And our shit is better than yalls there that fails if a strong gale blows thru. Deal with tornados and hurricanes. Tropical storms every year then get back with that weak ass statement |
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Posted: 7/15/2021 9:18:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: JFC, I am continually amazed at how many here support government overreach and don’t believe in a free market. Why they should deregulate the power industry. |
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Posted: 7/15/2021 9:20:57 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Agreed! I lived there for 22 years and 27 here in Southern Oklahoma and the power went off up there for days for alittle bit of wind. Down here our shit stands up to winds higher! And on top of that we got tornadoes on a yearly. And our shit is better than yalls there that fails if a strong gale blows thru. Deal with tornados and hurricanes. Tropical storms every year then get back with that weak ass statement Something like 90% of down time here was from trees across the line or people crashing into pole. |
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Posted: 7/15/2021 9:27:44 AM EDT
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Does anyone make an adapter from electric car charger to battery tender?
I could plug in my less-used truck when visiting if that crap makes it to my area. Kharn |
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