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Posted: 8/24/2024 2:38:53 PM EDT
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People should remember threads like this before they start posting that "let the left abort their own" stuff.
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Posted: 8/24/2024 2:39:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2JokersWild: I'm sorry OP but....Fuck him even more. People like him are why we are where we are. A sudden realization that hes a fucking idiot and a half assed apology from him just doesnt cut it from me any more. In my eyes there are no " red pilled liberals", theres just liberals who are pissed their own party left them behind. Dont think for a fucking second hes actually been red pilled. He supported all this bullshit, and now hes pissed it bit him in the ass. But he hasnt changed. yup Communism is OK until you get put in the gulag. @2JokersWild I was a "liberal" in college too, and then I pulled my head out of my ass when LIFE happened. |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 2:39:43 PM EDT
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Why were you a leftist before?
What changed? |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 2:40:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By buck19delta: Ops buddy is shocked he’s getting booted out of the lifeboat by the very people he helped sink the big USS USA ship for. buddy. He helped sink the USA, he gets no sympathy now that he discovered he’s stuck living the maga lifestyle with ready of us. Yeah, how dare he realize he was wrong and start to make meaningful change! 
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Posted: 8/24/2024 2:42:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jayne_Cobb: Because Democrats are willing to put in the groundwork and start at the bottom. They are nothing if not dedicated to their ideals, and they didn't just randomly jump to federal offices without decades of menial local grunt work. Republicans can't even be bothered to show up to school board meetings. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jayne_Cobb: Originally Posted By 2JokersWild: News flash, it doesn't matter. For every Democrat that starts to think 'hey wait a minute...' 5 more are imported to replace him. Why do you think we have a Somalia lady AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL of government? Republicans can't even be bothered to show up to school board meetings. |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 2:43:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FlashMan-7k: Yeah, how dare he realize he was wrong and start to make meaningful change! https://cdn.business2community.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/simpsons-pitchforks.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FlashMan-7k: Originally Posted By buck19delta: Ops buddy is shocked he’s getting booted out of the lifeboat by the very people he helped sink the big USS USA ship for. buddy. He helped sink the USA, he gets no sympathy now that he discovered he’s stuck living the maga lifestyle with ready of us. Yeah, how dare he realize he was wrong and start to make meaningful change! https://cdn.business2community.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/simpsons-pitchforks.jpg Some things are unforgivable. Were you a liberal in the past too? I can't see a far right wing conservative thinking forgiveness for this shit is cool. |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 2:44:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2JokersWild: News flash, it doesn't matter. For every Democrat that starts to think 'hey wait a minute...' 5 more are imported to replace him. Why do you think we have a Somalia lady AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL of government? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2JokersWild: Originally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By 2JokersWild: I'm sorry OP but....Fuck him even more. People like him are why we are where we are. A sudden realization that hes a fucking idiot and a half assed apology from him just doesnt cut it from me any more. In my eyes there are no " red pilled liberals", theres just liberals who are pissed their own party left them behind. Dont think for a fucking second hes actually been red pilled. He supported all this bullshit, and now hes pissed it bit him in the ass. But he hasnt changed. Attitudes like that are why we lose. I'm so sick of this blackpill bullshit. |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 2:44:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rugerlvr: I would guess you have heard of or are acquainted with him. I'm not going to out him here. He's multi-genre, and that's all I'll say. I'm relatively certain that you have traveled in the same circles. ETA: I should ask him if he knows you.  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rugerlvr: Originally Posted By RikWriter: What genre does he write in? (I wonder if I know him or have at least heard of him.) I would guess you have heard of or are acquainted with him. I'm not going to out him here. He's multi-genre, and that's all I'll say. I'm relatively certain that you have traveled in the same circles. ETA: I should ask him if he knows you. If you're comfortable with it (or he is) just message me. |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 2:44:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: RikWriter]
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Double tap
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Posted: 8/24/2024 2:47:34 PM EDT
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+1.
Let's see how his vote stacks up against the 12M illegals. |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 2:49:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2JokersWild: I'm sorry OP but....Fuck him even more. People like him are why we are where we are. A sudden realization that hes a fucking idiot and a half assed apology from him just doesnt cut it from me any more. In my eyes there are no " red pilled liberals", theres just liberals who are pissed their own party left them behind. Dont think for a fucking second hes actually been red pilled. He supported all this bullshit, and now hes pissed it bit him in the ass. But he hasnt changed. This. He's a brain fucked moron and he's only "red pilled" because he's now physically being cast out by the golem he spent years taking care of. |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 2:52:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jayne_Cobb: The interesting part is that his views haven't actually changed. He's still a Bill Clinton era democrat. The party simply moved on without him. Very strong possibility. |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 2:53:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HecklerKac: Why were you a leftist before? What changed? You speaking to me? I was never a leftist. I voted for GHWB, and Ross Perot, and Clinton I guess. What I realized as I was getting older, and paid more attention to politics, is just how much politicians lie. The biggest whoppers were being told about guns. I knew they were lies, and the lies just kept getting bigger and bigger, and pushed me more into the arms of the Republicans. I've always been pro-gun. I don't consider myself a republican these days. I'm just a friendly neighborhood pro-life, pro-gun, pro-freedom conservative who despises politicians and realizes that we will never be presented with anything but the lesser of two evils to vote for. I vote for harm reduction along my preferred ideological lines. |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 2:57:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HecklerKac: Some things are unforgivable. Were you a liberal in the past too? I can't see a far right wing conservative thinking forgiveness for this shit is cool. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HecklerKac: Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k: Originally Posted By buck19delta: Ops buddy is shocked he’s getting booted out of the lifeboat by the very people he helped sink the big USS USA ship for. buddy. He helped sink the USA, he gets no sympathy now that he discovered he’s stuck living the maga lifestyle with ready of us. Yeah, how dare he realize he was wrong and start to make meaningful change! https://cdn.business2community.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/simpsons-pitchforks.jpg Some things are unforgivable. Were you a liberal in the past too? I can't see a far right wing conservative thinking forgiveness for this shit is cool. Ah, the unsarcastic lynch mob mentality. I bet you also have whined in the past about always being on the losing side politically too. "Nobody can ever convert politically and join us!" along with "why are we always getting our butts kicked?!?!?" There is no non-emotions leading you by your nose-ring reason for this attitude. ETA: Stop it, it does you and everyone around you no good. You can quit ... it is possible. |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 3:00:26 PM EDT
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NOOOOOOOOOOO SOMEONE IS MOVING TOOWARDS OUR SSIIDEEE
    Take the partial win and help encourage the guy to straighten out his thinking instead of screaming at the sky, people. |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 3:00:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Rugerlvr]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Benchode: This. He's a brain fucked moron and he's only "red pilled" because he's now physically being cast out by the golem he spent years taking care of. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Benchode: Originally Posted By 2JokersWild: I'm sorry OP but....Fuck him even more. People like him are why we are where we are. A sudden realization that hes a fucking idiot and a half assed apology from him just doesnt cut it from me any more. In my eyes there are no " red pilled liberals", theres just liberals who are pissed their own party left them behind. Dont think for a fucking second hes actually been red pilled. He supported all this bullshit, and now hes pissed it bit him in the ass. But he hasnt changed. This. He's a brain fucked moron and he's only "red pilled" because he's now physically being cast out by the golem he spent years taking care of. I knew I was inviting replies like this. I don't know for sure, but it's the same sentiment as the never-trumpers here who because he doesn't agree with them 100% are willing to let the democrats turn this country into a Maoist hellhole. We will simply not survive cutting off our nose to spite our face. I extend my hand to anyone willing to change. Based on what my friend said last night, I could tell, he finally gets it, is remorseful for having supported it, and needs a way out while saving face. Last night, he repudiated some of his strongest core beliefs, and told me his reasoning, and the epiphanies he had to struggle with. I'm as convinced about his conversion as I can be about anything. I'm not going to be the guy to put my boot in his face and say "I told you so." He's more family to me than most of my own blood. It's like your long-lost atheist brother who finally comes to Jesus. You rejoice for them. |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 3:09:20 PM EDT
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OP must have bee dreaming. People can't change. Just ask the Never Tulsi Gabbard people!
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Posted: 8/24/2024 3:10:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RikWriter: I'm so sick of this blackpill bullshit. Ditto. Like most of you, I despair at times, but I'm not ready to give in yet. My buddy hadn't heard Kennedy's speech from yesterday as of last night. I had to tell him to go listen to it ASAP. Whatever you think about it, Kennedy endorsing Trump is a seismic shift. It's a bit like the founders committing treason to form our Republic. They knew they were quite possibly throwing their lives away to do what they thought was right. Kennedy has already started reaping the whirlwind. Pragmatic or not, he's doing what he thinks is right, and I think it's right too. I applaud him. |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 3:10:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rugerlvr: I knew I was inviting replies like this. I don't know for sure, but it's the same sentiment as the never-trumpers here who because he doesn't agree with them 100% are willing to let the democrats turn this country into a Maoist hellhole. We will simply not survive cutting off our nose to spite our face. I extend my hand to anyone willing to change. Based on what my friend said last night, I could tell, he finally gets it, is remorseful for having supported it, and needs a way out while saving face. I'm not going to be the guy to put my boot in his face and say "I told you so." He's more family to me than most of my own family. It's like your long-lost atheist brother who finally comes to Jesus. You rejoice for them. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rugerlvr: Originally Posted By Benchode: Originally Posted By 2JokersWild: I'm sorry OP but....Fuck him even more. People like him are why we are where we are. A sudden realization that hes a fucking idiot and a half assed apology from him just doesnt cut it from me any more. In my eyes there are no " red pilled liberals", theres just liberals who are pissed their own party left them behind. Dont think for a fucking second hes actually been red pilled. He supported all this bullshit, and now hes pissed it bit him in the ass. But he hasnt changed. This. He's a brain fucked moron and he's only "red pilled" because he's now physically being cast out by the golem he spent years taking care of. I knew I was inviting replies like this. I don't know for sure, but it's the same sentiment as the never-trumpers here who because he doesn't agree with them 100% are willing to let the democrats turn this country into a Maoist hellhole. We will simply not survive cutting off our nose to spite our face. I extend my hand to anyone willing to change. Based on what my friend said last night, I could tell, he finally gets it, is remorseful for having supported it, and needs a way out while saving face. I'm not going to be the guy to put my boot in his face and say "I told you so." He's more family to me than most of my own family. It's like your long-lost atheist brother who finally comes to Jesus. You rejoice for them. The sick part about this is that the "you can never be forgiven or allowed to move on, your beliefs are what you are because we say so" way of thinking is also a large element of woke ideology. It's their version of original sin, and they won't let people move past it or get away from it. To do so for them is to give up the power of hate and guilting and shaming the person. They just can't have that. We rightly call that out against them. |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 3:22:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tsg68: Any man under 30 who is not a liberal has no heart, and any man over thirty who is not a conservative has no brains. Winston S. Churchill Probably true during Winston’s day Now? Where’s the heart for being a democrat? Infanticide? Wrecking women’s sports? Child trafficking/open borders? High inflation? No right to defend yourself? Our businesses getting robbed in broad daylight? Pallets of cash to our enemies? |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 3:23:45 PM EDT
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this guy needs to understand history -- the intellectuals are often among the first to get the bullet amazing he doesn't understand that |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 3:25:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Rugerlvr]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FlashMan-7k: The sick part about this is that the "you can never be forgiven or allowed to move on, your beliefs are what you are because we say so" way of thinking is also a large element of woke ideology. It's their version of original sin, and they won't let people move past it or get away from it. To do so for them is to give up the power of hate and guilting and shaming the person. They just can't have that. We rightly call that out against them. He talked about that at length last night. About how his default position as a leftie was that anyone to the right of him was just not only wrong but irredeemably wrong. He said that's where his son is now, and admitted it's going to be tough to try to break him out of the prison that he himself just escaped. It's insights like that, that make me believe he's really changed. |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 3:28:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HecklerKac: Some things are unforgivable. Were you a liberal in the past too? I can't see a far right wing conservative thinking forgiveness for this shit is cool. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HecklerKac: Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k: Originally Posted By buck19delta: Ops buddy is shocked he’s getting booted out of the lifeboat by the very people he helped sink the big USS USA ship for. buddy. He helped sink the USA, he gets no sympathy now that he discovered he’s stuck living the maga lifestyle with ready of us. Yeah, how dare he realize he was wrong and start to make meaningful change! https://cdn.business2community.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/simpsons-pitchforks.jpg Some things are unforgivable. Were you a liberal in the past too? I can't see a far right wing conservative thinking forgiveness for this shit is cool. God did choose an active persecutor of Christians to preside over the organization of the Catholic Church. Was God a cuck for forgiving a man who had ordered hundreds of Christians killed? |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 3:29:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MFP_4073: this guy needs to understand history -- the intellectuals are often among the first to get the bullet amazing he doesn't understand that He does. Another thing we covered last night. He talked about post-modernism and deconstructionism, and how there isn't a plan to replace anything after it's deconstructed. He said finally he looked hard at communism and realized the over-riding reason it's bad, and the one that really matters: "The body count." |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 3:30:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By buck19delta: White liberals have been at the top of their bullshit for years, cheering on agendas for “ those minorities / gays “. But always felt they were better than those they cheered on. The liberals and their kids, reaping the vast amount of the rewards, while “ helping “, some distant minorities grow a bit. Except now, those liberals and their kids are getting less and less of the pie, can’t even afford housing, and many opportunities that should have gone to them due to ability, we’re stolen and given away to less deserving due to diversity. They don’t like it one bit, and like ops buddy slowly realizing their Victim heirachy is replacing them, and worse, doesn’t even have the decency to thank them for their support. Shocked they are not getting that pat on the back at least. The politics have given the oddballs the power, and now they are demanding the white liberals to step aside, kiss their asses and them take the rewards that used to mostly go to the white liberals. Like ops friend, who was just shoved out of the boat, by the very people he mentored for decades, the NERVE ! I’m on THEIR SIDE ! ! Except they don’t give a fuck about you and your lack of diversity points. Expect a lot more of that in the future. Especially among the “ down trodden “ little lazy, entitled, white shitbirds who think democrats are going to “ raise them up “ magically somehow, they definitely won’t like getting kicked into the gutter and “ their “ job, promotion, raise, college slot, house, apartment, etc was given away based on diversity points, of which they have essentially none. “ HEY ! We’re on your side ! “  Snip Agree, and “Of all the tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive… The robber barons cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.” – CS Lewis |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 3:32:34 PM EDT
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That's awesome OP. It's very satisfying seeing someone wake up and realize what is going on. Had some friends that leaned a little left and I think they thought I was crazy about a lot of stuff. Between 2016 and 2020 they came around and everything I said started making more sense. At the same time they saw their leftist friends go even further left to the point that they couldn't stand to be around them anymore.
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Posted: 8/24/2024 3:34:53 PM EDT
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It's great to see that at least some of the useful idiots might eventually be turned to the light, but god damn it's still amazing how they can ever be that way. I guess the propaganda in schools, media and so many other sources gets a foothold that is ungodly hard to break. Good to see the rare exception.
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Posted: 8/24/2024 3:38:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rugerlvr: He talked about that at length last night. About how his default position as a leftie was that anyone to the right of him was just not only wrong but irredeemably wrong. He said that's where his son is now, and admitted it's going to be tough to try to break him out of the prison that he himself just escaped. It's insights like that, that make me believe he's really changed. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rugerlvr: Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k: The sick part about this is that the "you can never be forgiven or allowed to move on, your beliefs are what you are because we say so" way of thinking is also a large element of woke ideology. It's their version of original sin, and they won't let people move past it or get away from it. To do so for them is to give up the power of hate and guilting and shaming the person. They just can't have that. We rightly call that out against them. He talked about that at length last night. About how his default position as a leftie was that anyone to the right of him was just not only wrong but irredeemably wrong. He said that's where his son is now, and admitted it's going to be tough to try to break him out of the prison that he himself just escaped. It's insights like that, that make me believe he's really changed. Only time and pressure will tell, but that is a pretty hefty realization on his part. |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 3:38:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tiberius: God did choose an active persecutor of Christians to preside over the organization of the Catholic Church. Was God a cuck for forgiving a man who had ordered hundreds of Christians killed? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tiberius: Originally Posted By HecklerKac: Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k: Originally Posted By buck19delta: Ops buddy is shocked he’s getting booted out of the lifeboat by the very people he helped sink the big USS USA ship for. buddy. He helped sink the USA, he gets no sympathy now that he discovered he’s stuck living the maga lifestyle with ready of us. Yeah, how dare he realize he was wrong and start to make meaningful change! https://cdn.business2community.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/simpsons-pitchforks.jpg Some things are unforgivable. Were you a liberal in the past too? I can't see a far right wing conservative thinking forgiveness for this shit is cool. God did choose an active persecutor of Christians to preside over the organization of the Catholic Church. Was God a cuck for forgiving a man who had ordered hundreds of Christians killed? Don't be surprised if you ask that sort of question and people unsarcastically say "yes." |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 3:40:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: borat]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CzechMate5: Probably true during Winston’s day Now? Where’s the heart for being a democrat? Infanticide? Wrecking women’s sports? Child trafficking/open borders? High inflation? No right to defend yourself? Our businesses getting robbed in broad daylight? Pallets of cash to our enemies? |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 3:40:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: FlashMan-7k]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rugerlvr: He does. Another thing we covered last night. He talked about post-modernism and deconstructionism, and how there isn't a plan to replace anything after it's deconstructed. He said finally he looked hard at communism and realized the over-riding reason it's bad, and the one that really matters: "The body count." Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rugerlvr: Originally Posted By MFP_4073: this guy needs to understand history -- the intellectuals are often among the first to get the bullet amazing he doesn't understand that He does. Another thing we covered last night. He talked about post-modernism and deconstructionism, and how there isn't a plan to replace anything after it's deconstructed. He said finally he looked hard at communism and realized the over-riding reason it's bad, and the one that really matters: "The body count." It's deeper than that. They don't even really know what their utopia is, or how to get to it. So they just keep pushing revolution after revoltuion, small ones up to world shattering ones, and they ignore or handwave away the body counts. "If we just go faster we might get to (I don't even know where or what) in our lifetimes! ETA: they've left a trail of hundreds of millions of bodies in the wake of this. |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 3:45:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FlashMan-7k: It's deeper than that. They don't even really know what their utopia is, or how to get to it. So they just keep pushing revolution after revoltuion, small ones up to world shattering ones, and they ignore or handwave away the body counts. "If we just go faster we might get to (I don't even know where or what) in our lifetimes! ETA: they've left a trail of hundreds of millions of bodies in the wake of this. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FlashMan-7k: Originally Posted By Rugerlvr: Originally Posted By MFP_4073: this guy needs to understand history -- the intellectuals are often among the first to get the bullet amazing he doesn't understand that He does. Another thing we covered last night. He talked about post-modernism and deconstructionism, and how there isn't a plan to replace anything after it's deconstructed. He said finally he looked hard at communism and realized the over-riding reason it's bad, and the one that really matters: "The body count." It's deeper than that. They don't even really know what their utopia is, or how to get to it. So they just keep pushing revolution after revoltuion, small ones up to world shattering ones, and they ignore or handwave away the body counts. "If we just go faster we might get to (I don't even know where or what) in our lifetimes! ETA: they've left a trail of hundreds of millions of bodies in the wake of this. |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 3:47:30 PM EDT
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with all due respect for your friend, it would take intentional ignorance for someone not to have had their eyes opened long ago. it's not like lefty got anti-male in the last year.
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Posted: 8/24/2024 3:54:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jayne_Cobb: The principle is called "Chesterton's Fence " Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jayne_Cobb: Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k: Originally Posted By Rugerlvr: Originally Posted By MFP_4073: this guy needs to understand history -- the intellectuals are often among the first to get the bullet amazing he doesn't understand that He does. Another thing we covered last night. He talked about post-modernism and deconstructionism, and how there isn't a plan to replace anything after it's deconstructed. He said finally he looked hard at communism and realized the over-riding reason it's bad, and the one that really matters: "The body count." It's deeper than that. They don't even really know what their utopia is, or how to get to it. So they just keep pushing revolution after revoltuion, small ones up to world shattering ones, and they ignore or handwave away the body counts. "If we just go faster we might get to (I don't even know where or what) in our lifetimes! ETA: they've left a trail of hundreds of millions of bodies in the wake of this. Of why you don't just mindlessly tear things down ... yes, absolutely.  More specifically what I was referring to: https://newdiscourses.com/2021/04/communism-doesnt-know-how/ The New Discourses Podcast with James Lindsay, Episode 31 At the heart of communist and communistic thought is faith in a kind of historical trajectory toward utopia that’s driven by social alchemy. There are many reasons why this fails in practice, but the simplest thing to say is that communism fails because communism doesn’t know how communism will succeed. The fundamental belief driving communists is that once enough people become true believers that the communist utopia lies on the other side of certain social changes, a perfect society will manifest. How? Because they will. The details aren’t meant to be known or told; they’re meant to be figured out. This is in exact alignment with the historicism in Marx’s dialectical materialism: once we get capitalism out of the way, we’ll enter a worker-managed system (socialism) that can start figuring out how to make the state redundant to its purposes, at which point a stateless improvement of the same will emerge and the communist utopia (and end of History) will emerge. On this episode of the New Discourses Podcast, James Lindsay gives an example of how a contemporary police abolitionist activist has made almost exactly this same argument perfectly explicitly and walks you through how you can spot it for what it is. Join Lindsay for one of his more important discussions. |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 4:08:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: VaniB]
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Same story different liberal. Your friend won't vote TRUMP. Hopefully, he just stays home November.
Wife and I have family that bitches about crime and illegals infiltrating their town and still vote Dem. They cant give up their abortion rights or have law and order being dictated upon them. (ie; you know rules like the way how most great civil societies work and survive before they become a 3rd world shithole) |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 4:11:26 PM EDT
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At least he’s going the right direction. My long time good friend and conservative growing up married someone who had some liberal tendencies, but was more in the middle and even conservative in some ways.
They adopted some minority kids and then the BLM movement hit. She went full tard left and my cuck friend (now ex friend) followed right along with her. We haven’t spoken since the Fenty Floyd days, when I showed my disgust at who they both became. No loss. Fuck them both. |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 4:13:39 PM EDT
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I have seen a few liberal acquaintances become redpilled in the last year.
It's pretty interesting to watch it happen. |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 4:14:49 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FlashMan-7k: Yeah, how dare he realize he was wrong and start to make meaningful change! https://cdn.business2community.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/simpsons-pitchforks.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FlashMan-7k: Originally Posted By buck19delta: Ops buddy is shocked he’s getting booted out of the lifeboat by the very people he helped sink the big USS USA ship for. buddy. He helped sink the USA, he gets no sympathy now that he discovered he’s stuck living the maga lifestyle with ready of us. Yeah, how dare he realize he was wrong and start to make meaningful change! https://cdn.business2community.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/simpsons-pitchforks.jpg His beliefs didn’t change, he didn’t realize his ideas were wrong or fucked up, he’s just mad he lost his position on the diversity faculty, and got demoted to janitor, and realized they hate his liberal guts as much as our maga guts. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 8/24/2024 4:15:41 PM EDT
[#39]
#walkaway
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Posted: 8/24/2024 4:17:43 PM EDT
[#40]
Originally Posted By Rugerlvr: First of all, he's a novelist. He works very hard at it, and has made an okay living at it. He has always been active in the writing community, and attends conferences, and workshops, and teaches auxiliary writing classes at the local university. He started to talk about being canceled by the other participants at these functions. He would sit on panel discussions, and despite considering himself an "ally" he has been attacked because he is an old white man. If you know anything about the literary world, it has devolved into a cesspit of DEI, oppression olympics, critical race theory, etc. As an aspiring novelist, this is the truth. I signed up for a Sci-Fi/ Fantasy conference, one of the sessions is called De-colonizing Magic in Fantasy Writing. I haven't had that session yet but from the title I imagine that's an hour of my life I will have wasted and won't get back. And dear God some of the questions from the other attendees. Every question about "how do you identify or know someone or something is a monster" came from a white woman. They literally didn't know what a monster was and who or what could be one. One actually asked if a person could be a monster.  By the end of that session I needed a drink. |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 4:18:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: buck19delta]
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rugerlvr: He talked about that at length last night. About how his default position as a leftie was that anyone to the right of him was just not only wrong but irredeemably wrong. He said that's where his son is now, and admitted it's going to be tough to try to break him out of the prison that he himself just escaped. It's insights like that, that make me believe he's really changed. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rugerlvr: Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k: The sick part about this is that the "you can never be forgiven or allowed to move on, your beliefs are what you are because we say so" way of thinking is also a large element of woke ideology. It's their version of original sin, and they won't let people move past it or get away from it. To do so for them is to give up the power of hate and guilting and shaming the person. They just can't have that. We rightly call that out against them. He talked about that at length last night. About how his default position as a leftie was that anyone to the right of him was just not only wrong but irredeemably wrong. He said that's where his son is now, and admitted it's going to be tough to try to break him out of the prison that he himself just escaped. It's insights like that, that make me believe he's really changed. He was fine with it when he thought he was going to be a cherished member up in middle management, he’s only got a problem now because he’s realized there is no special place of power /comfort in it for him . Like you said, before he feared republicans, now he’s just “ afraid “. He fucking should be. His tribe hates his guts for being a straight white guy, and he can’t fit comfortably into our tribe due to his fucked up, die hard liberal beliefs. Which liberal ideals did he suddenly become vehemently against ? That’s what I want to hear, I don’t think he’s chanced his opinions on any of the usual things, just pissed off / horrified to suddenly realize his god thinks he’s a disposable oppressor, vs indispensable, cheer leader, mentor. |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 4:21:06 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ironknife: No He is mad about the world he voted for. He cooperated and used his emotions and weak NPC mind to get him where he is. He made this bed, let him sleep in it. He is not family. This sounds like a good way to get Red flagged and swatted. At no point should you provide any information on weapons at all. Or even socialize with this person at all. The Covid crisis showed us all where these people want us. Do what you want, these people are beyond forgiveness. The state of country is because of these worthless people, and there is no reason for sympathy . There's zero chance that we will be able to exterminate a couple hundred million people. If you're saying these people can't be saved then that's what we're looking at. I don't see how we have enough people to man the death camps even if we could get them built. |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 4:21:42 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By buck19delta: His beliefs didn’t change, he didn’t realize his ideas were wrong or fucked up, he’s just mad he lost his position on the diversity faculty, and got demoted to janitor, and realized they hate his liberal guts as much as our maga guts. Never trust a commie.gif |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 4:28:06 PM EDT
[#44]
some people learn by the logic
some people learn by the burn |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 4:33:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Ironknife]
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Colt1860: There's zero chance that we will be able to exterminate a couple hundred million people. If you're saying these people can't be saved then that's what we're looking at. I don't see how we have enough people to man the death camps even if we could get them built. Death camps? We man them? Who is we? I’m not getting it |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 8/24/2024 4:36:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MFP_4073]
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By VaniB: Same story different liberal. Your friend won't vote TRUMP. [b]Hopefully, he just stays home November.[/b] ... that's the best we can hope for a lot of people honestly (part underlined) |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 4:36:14 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ironknife: Death camps? We man them? Who is we? I’m not getting it Well what is your plan to deal with all these people who can't be converted? Are we going to ask them kindly to go live somewhere else? |
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USA
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Posted: 8/24/2024 4:41:03 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By buck19delta: His beliefs didn’t change, he didn’t realize his ideas were wrong or fucked up, he’s just mad he lost his position on the diversity faculty, and got demoted to janitor, and realized they hate his liberal guts as much as our maga guts. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By buck19delta: Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k: Originally Posted By buck19delta: Ops buddy is shocked he’s getting booted out of the lifeboat by the very people he helped sink the big USS USA ship for. buddy. He helped sink the USA, he gets no sympathy now that he discovered he’s stuck living the maga lifestyle with ready of us. Yeah, how dare he realize he was wrong and start to make meaningful change! https://cdn.business2community.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/simpsons-pitchforks.jpg His beliefs didn’t change, he didn’t realize his ideas were wrong or fucked up, he’s just mad he lost his position on the diversity faculty, and got demoted to janitor, and realized they hate his liberal guts as much as our maga guts. You don't know that any more than the average leftist knows trump said there were fine racists at that event in charlottesville. Which is to say you don't, you're making it up because you want it to be true, when in actuality you don't know and for some unknown reason you're stuck on being hateful and not letting anyone you don't want to change and get better ... change, and get better. Unsarcastic question: why are you so hurt over this that you'll make pissed off posts attacking someone for saying that leftism is wrong? There's something majorly screwed up going on here. |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 4:42:21 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MRW: some people learn by the logic some people learn by the burn Apparently nobody's ever allowed to learn by suffering the consequences of their stupidity. That's un-possible, we should never allow that to happen. No humans need apply. |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 4:43:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: FlashMan-7k]
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Colt1860: Well what is your plan to deal with all these people who can't be converted? Are we going to ask them kindly to go live somewhere else? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Colt1860: Originally Posted By Ironknife: Death camps? We man them? Who is we? I’m not getting it Well what is your plan to deal with all these people who can't be converted? Are we going to ask them kindly to go live somewhere else? Work in the localities and states and start educating the pols on things like this: https://web.archive.org/web/20190126083620/http://www.constitution.org/rf/vr_1799.htm REPORT OF 1799. VIRGINIA. HOUSE OF DELEGATES. ... The third resolution is in the words following: That this Assembly doth explicitly and peremptorily declare, that it views the powers of the Federal Government, as resulting from the compact, to which the states are parties, as limited by the plain sense and intention of the instrument constituting that compact; as no farther valid than they are authorized by the grants enumerated in that compact; and that in case of a deliberate, palpable and dangerous exercise of other powers, not granted by the said compact, the states who are parties thereto have the right, and are in duty bound, to interpose for arresting the progress of the evil, and for maintaining within their respective limits, the authorities, rights, and liberties appertaining to them. Much more here: https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Constitutional-Education/5-2721792/?r=109298319&page=3&anc=109298319#i109356065 ETA: and work on all the rest of the fronts. Wherever you are. |
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