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Posted: 10/5/2024 12:03:15 AM EDT
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Anybody running suppressor covers on their AEM5/OPS12/OCM5?
Getting pretty wicked mirage |
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MD, USA
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Posted: 10/5/2024 2:09:46 AM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By slowkota1: Anybody running suppressor covers on their AEM5/OPS12/OCM5? Getting pretty wicked mirage Just save yourself the hassle of trying 5 different covers and get one made by Liberty’s Defense. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 10/5/2024 6:43:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By slowkota1: Anybody running suppressor covers on their AEM5/OPS12/OCM5? Getting pretty wicked mirage ADCO is making them |
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Posted: 10/5/2024 11:56:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Embittered: Just save yourself the hassle of trying 5 different covers and get one made by Liberty’s Defense. Aw hell naw! I just need something to kill mirage for slow fire 5 shot groups. Maybe if I was a serious PRS competitor.... But nah. That ADCO one looks decent for my needs |
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USA
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Posted: 10/5/2024 2:45:48 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/5/2024 3:01:02 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/5/2024 3:14:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SchlaffTablett: Nice! Is that a 12.5? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SchlaffTablett: Originally Posted By drew_red: https://i.imgur.com/XsQEumq.jpeg Nice! Is that a 12.5? A 6.5C Gordy build would be something 
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USA
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Posted: 10/5/2024 3:25:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: drew_red]
[#8]
Originally Posted By SchlaffTablett: Nice! Is that a 12.5? It is, 12.5" Centurion 6 ARC. In the photo is the .880 block, but it wasn't agreeing with my handguard length, which I'd cut as much as I was comfortable with. The fellas at AEM suggested I run your 1.04", which I've now installed, and it's sitting proudly beyond the handguard. Crush washer or some thick shims should do the trick on the brake. |
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SC, USA
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Posted: 10/5/2024 5:46:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: cdholmes]
[#9]
 Got the Gordy build together. Unfortunately, I’m having some concentricity issues. Tried two other different cans/mounts and am getting the same result. It appears the threads This build is cursed for me. Tried it in the past and it didn’t work out either. |
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Posted: 10/5/2024 5:55:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bigbore]
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cdholmes: https://i.imgur.com/CDmJcAB.jpeg Got the Gordy build together. Unfortunately, I’m having some concentricity issues. How so? ETA: How do you know? |
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SC, USA
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Posted: 10/5/2024 6:07:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: cdholmes]
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigbore: How so? Ran an alignment rod down the barrel, and it is almost making contact with the right side of the AEM5. The rod also runs closer to the right when just looking at the brake. Tried it with a Griffin and AAC can/mount, and same results. By the way, the collar you sent works great. Thanks again! Edit: My original post said the threads are concentric. Meant to say they aren’t concentric. |
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Posted: 10/5/2024 6:14:01 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cdholmes: Ran an alignment rod down the barrel, and it is almost making contact with the right side of the AEM5. The rod also runs closer to the right when just looking at the brake. Tried it with a Griffin and AAC can/mount, and same results. By the way, the collar you sent works great. Thanks again! Edit: My original post said the threads are concentric. Meant to say they aren’t concentric. IMO, Alignment rods are basically worthless. Too many variables. Your threads can be concentric and you bore several inches in the barrel can be off 20 thousandths. You mounted an AE brake, Griffin brake and AAC with their cans on that same barrel and they all touch the alignment rod on on the right side of the endcap? |
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SC, USA
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Posted: 10/5/2024 6:17:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigbore: IMO, Alignment rods are basically worthless. Too many variables. Your threads can be concentric and you bore several inches in the barrel can be off 20 thousandths. You mounted an AE brake, Griffin brake and AAC with their cans on that same barrel and they all touch the alignment rod on on the right side of the endcap? Yes sir. That’s what made me think it was the threads. |
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Posted: 10/5/2024 6:22:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cdholmes: Yes sir. That’s what made me think it was the threads. Or the alignment rod is bent, or you have a out of alignment bore at the other end of the rod. Do you reload? Do you have an unprimed piece of sized brass? |
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SC, USA
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Posted: 10/5/2024 6:38:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigbore: Or the alignment rod is bent, or you have a out of alignment bore at the other end of the rod. Do you reload? Do you have an unprimed piece of sized brass? Rod doesn’t seem bent, but I guess unaligned bore could be possible. It’s an FN barrel I had cut down. Unfortunately, I don’t have any brass. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 10/5/2024 6:43:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: k31user]
[#16]
An anvil mic with a .217 or .218 gage pin works pretty good for checking the concentricity.
RonA |
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MD, USA
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Posted: 10/6/2024 3:15:49 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Embittered]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigbore: or you have a out of alignment bore at the other end of the rod. This is my bet. Happened to me: threads were concentric and all that checked out by the competent gunsmith who cut the barrel, but I got consistent bias to one side on all mounted devices and cans. “Banana bore” it’s called. |
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Posted: 10/6/2024 10:00:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cdholmes: Yes sir. That’s what made me think it was the threads. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cdholmes: Originally Posted By bigbore: IMO, Alignment rods are basically worthless. Too many variables. Your threads can be concentric and you bore several inches in the barrel can be off 20 thousandths. You mounted an AE brake, Griffin brake and AAC with their cans on that same barrel and they all touch the alignment rod on on the right side of the endcap? Yes sir. That’s what made me think it was the threads. You're looking at the alignment rod while holding the upper vertically yes? Try spinning the alignment rod in the barrel and see if it wobbles around the bore of the suppressor. |
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Posted: 10/7/2024 10:12:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By slowkota1: Aw hell naw! I just need something to kill mirage for slow fire 5 shot groups. Maybe if I was a serious PRS competitor.... But nah. That ADCO one looks decent for my needs I just got back from prairie dogging in South Dakota and I didn't have any issues with mirage with their cover installed. |
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Posted: 10/7/2024 4:14:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: oldbrowndog]
[#20]
Can someone check my math?
- 16” mid-gas will work with AEM5 and A mount - 16” rifle gas will work with AEM4 with B mount OR AEM5 with Allegheny gas block - 18” rifle gas works with AEM5 and A mount Trying to build a 6 ARC Mod H, but needing to verify fit before ordering the custom can and having the barrel spun up. |
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Posted: 10/7/2024 4:29:48 PM EDT
[#21]
16.5ish with a tapered gas block, rifle gas and the 12th model mounting system.
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Posted: 10/7/2024 4:33:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Nobody69s: I can vouch for the Adco covers on an AEM5. I just got back from prairie dogging in South Dakota and I didn't have any issues with mirage with their cover installed. Wheres the dang "Like" button lol |
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Posted: 10/7/2024 4:53:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: 16.5ish with a tapered gas block, rifle gas and the 12th model mounting system. Great, thank you. Assuming that's the 1.04" tapered block? |
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Posted: 10/7/2024 5:18:32 PM EDT
[#24]
On their site they say 16.5 with 1.1” and 16.56 with 1.04” and that makes no sense to me. I told the machinist doing mine to look up the print and measure from the taper.
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Posted: 10/7/2024 6:46:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: On their site they say 16.5 with 1.1” and 16.56 with 1.04” and that makes no sense to me. I told the machinist doing mine to look up the print and measure from the taper. Makes sense, thanks! Going to have Craddock spin one up for me, so I will discuss with them. |
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Posted: 10/7/2024 7:21:51 PM EDT
[#26]
I’d ask them to mount the block to be sure.
Mines an AE22 so I’m going straight to 5/8 threads. They ship with an adapter. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 10/7/2024 9:06:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigbore: no. you need to remove the bayonet lug and make a flush fitting collar to the FSB Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigbore: Originally Posted By Number0neGun: The two piece collar that goes with the M4/Gordon cans, will that work on an 11.5" gun being set up for an AEM4? Gun in question is using a Colt barrel with a fixed front sight base. no. you need to remove the bayonet lug and make a flush fitting collar to the FSB Is that something you guys can do? |
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Posted: 10/7/2024 9:32:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By _rory_: Is that something you guys can do? Yup |
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Posted: 10/8/2024 2:09:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By oldbrowndog: Can someone check my math? - 16” mid-gas will work with AEM5 and A mount - 16” rifle gas will work with AEM4 with B mount OR AEM5 with Allegheny Arms gas block - 18” rifle gas works with AEM5 and A mount Trying to build a 6 ARC Mod H, but needing to verify fit before ordering the custom can and having the barrel spun up. You can make 1 & 3 work no problem assuming you get the collar sized correctly and the correct length shoulder cut. Our .880 block, OEM brake (or our short brake) and 16 rifle gas barrel will work with the B mount. You can use the .880 block with our extended brake and 16" rifle gas barrel to mount an A mount. If you're going for a ModH, I'd just do the original Mid gas 16" and have the collar or barrel cut for whatever can you'd like. |
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Posted: 10/9/2024 4:56:40 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SchlaffTablett: You can make 1 & 3 work no problem assuming you get the collar sized correctly and the correct length shoulder cut. Our .880 block, OEM brake (or our short brake) and 16 rifle gas barrel will work with the B mount. You can use the .880 block with our extended brake and 16" rifle gas barrel to mount an A mount. If you're going for a ModH, I'd just do the original Mid gas 16" and have the collar or barrel cut for whatever can you'd like. I ordered a 1.04” block and sent it to Craddock already to have them make the barrel fit. Might have to switch that to a 0.880” so I can use your extended brake. The issue with mid-gas is that 6ARC plays better with rifle gas, and I’d prefer to use that if possible. |
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Posted: 10/9/2024 4:32:05 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By oldbrowndog: I ordered a 1.04” block and sent it to Craddock already to have them make the barrel fit. Might have to switch that to a 0.880” so I can use your extended brake. The issue with mid-gas is that 6ARC plays better with rifle gas, and I’d prefer to use that if possible. I gotcha. You can have them give me a call if they have any questions on the block and if they need something different, we can exchange the one you got already. |
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Posted: 10/14/2024 11:55:59 PM EDT
[#32]
Quick check to make sure I'm on the right track. 14.5" barrel plus pinned and welded AE brake equals 16", correct?
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Posted: 10/15/2024 1:45:34 PM EDT
[#33]
Yep.
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Posted: 10/15/2024 2:21:47 PM EDT
[#34]
I could use some advice.
I am planning to build a compact 300Blk and I have a rail that will enclose most of the can...think MP5SD. I need a thread on can so that I can remove it without accessing the base of the can to unlock a latch or similar...so I was thinking an AE can would work...maybe. Question...I need a short barrel in 300Blk but one with enough length to allow the AE can to mount correctly. What barrel and what can, with the goal of short/light but still reliable. |
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Posted: 10/15/2024 2:28:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FedDC: I could use some advice. I am planning to build a compact 300Blk and I have a rail that will enclose most of the can...think MP5SD. I need a thread on can so that I can remove it without accessing the base of the can to unlock a latch or similar...so I was thinking an AE can would work...maybe. Question...I need a short barrel in 300Blk but one with enough length to allow the AE can to mount correctly. What barrel and what can, with the goal of short/light but still reliable. I'd get a DD 10.3" barrel and a SiCo 9mm can. A 9mm can will work better than an OPS/AE can and fit under way more rail options. Pick your rail then cut the barrel to fit. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 10/15/2024 3:53:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigbore: I'd get a DD 10.3" barrel and a SiCo 9mm can. A 9mm can will work better than an OPS/AE can and fit under way more rail options. Pick your rail then cut the barrel to fit. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigbore: Originally Posted By FedDC: I could use some advice. I am planning to build a compact 300Blk and I have a rail that will enclose most of the can...think MP5SD. I need a thread on can so that I can remove it without accessing the base of the can to unlock a latch or similar...so I was thinking an AE can would work...maybe. Question...I need a short barrel in 300Blk but one with enough length to allow the AE can to mount correctly. What barrel and what can, with the goal of short/light but still reliable. I'd get a DD 10.3" barrel and a SiCo 9mm can. A 9mm can will work better than an OPS/AE can and fit under way more rail options. Pick your rail then cut the barrel to fit. If I recall correctly, a 7.5" pistol gas barrel has the same distance to the muzzle as a 10.5" carbine gas. So, he could do an AEM4 with a custom 30-cal bore and a taper gas block or short collar. |
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Posted: 10/15/2024 3:57:14 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SpyHawk: If I recall correctly, a 7.5" pistol gas barrel has the same distance to the muzzle as a 10.5" carbine gas. So, he could do an AEM4 with a custom 30-cal bore and a taper gas block or short collar. Yes, and it would be heavy and loud. IMO, OPS/AE cans kinda suck with subsonic 300BLK compared to standard 9mm K Baffle designs. Better tools for different jobs. |
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Posted: 10/15/2024 4:18:54 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigbore: Yes, and it would be heavy and loud. IMO, OPS/AE cans kinda suck with subsonic 300BLK compared to standard 9mm K Baffle designs. Better tools for different jobs. This. Get a titanium large volume can for subsonic blackout use. Although my AEM5-30 worked the Nomad LT is better in every way. |
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Posted: 10/15/2024 4:22:49 PM EDT
[#39]
An AEM is certainly going to be louder than it would be using a K baffle or even some cone baffle cans but if you really need / want to use an Allen, you can do an AEM4 in .30 with our .880 block and short brake for a drop on fit on a 7.5" or an AEM5-30 with the .880 and our long reach brake.
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Posted: 10/15/2024 4:38:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FedDC: I could use some advice. I am planning to build a compact 300Blk and I have a rail that will enclose most of the can...think MP5SD. I need a thread on can so that I can remove it without accessing the base of the can to unlock a latch or similar...so I was thinking an AE can would work...maybe. Question...I need a short barrel in 300Blk but one with enough length to allow the AE can to mount correctly. What barrel and what can, with the goal of short/light but still reliable. A can with HUB threading paired with a Rearden atlas mount and muzzle device. Or just straight up Direct Thread, since you won't be shooting it without a can anyways... Save a lil weight and money. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 10/16/2024 12:55:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: SpyHawk]
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By slowkota1: A can with HUB threading paired with a Rearden atlas mount and muzzle device. Or just straight up Direct Thread, since you won't be shooting it without a can anyways... Save a lil weight and money. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By slowkota1: Originally Posted By FedDC: I could use some advice. I am planning to build a compact 300Blk and I have a rail that will enclose most of the can...think MP5SD. I need a thread on can so that I can remove it without accessing the base of the can to unlock a latch or similar...so I was thinking an AE can would work...maybe. Question...I need a short barrel in 300Blk but one with enough length to allow the AE can to mount correctly. What barrel and what can, with the goal of short/light but still reliable. A can with HUB threading paired with a Rearden atlas mount and muzzle device. Or just straight up Direct Thread, since you won't be shooting it without a can anyways... Save a lil weight and money. To be fair, I love my Ops can, but use my cheap Rex Silentium for my 300blk. I'm just saying, "it's possible"  That said, if someone mostly shot supers and not subs, I would imagine that a 30 cal Ops/AEM would be good to go. |
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Posted: 10/20/2024 1:44:01 PM EDT
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IA, USA
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Posted: 10/21/2024 8:48:57 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/21/2024 7:34:47 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By --FLEET--: https://i.imgur.com/pnpEc3d.jpg I’ll bite, are those all clone builds, or AE inspired fever dreams turned into metal and optics? 
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WI, USA
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Posted: 10/22/2024 2:29:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Wubaru]
[#45]
Would a Gordon M4 fit on a BCM 14.5 m4 flat top upper?
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IA, USA
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Posted: 10/22/2024 3:50:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By towerofpower94: I’ll bite, are those all clone builds, or AE inspired fever dreams turned into metal and optics? Yes and yes. With varying degrees of clone correctness |
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Posted: 10/22/2024 5:32:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By --FLEET--: Yes and yes. With varying degrees of clone correctness Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By --FLEET--: Originally Posted By towerofpower94: I’ll bite, are those all clone builds, or AE inspired fever dreams turned into metal and optics? Yes and yes. With varying degrees of clone correctness Very cool. Kind of a GWOT/steam punk/ARMS catalogue mash up collection
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Posted: 10/22/2024 8:21:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wubaru: Would a Gordon M4 fit on a BCM 14.5 m4 flat top upper? If a carbine gas system and the proper collar yes it should. |
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IA, USA
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Posted: 10/22/2024 10:10:35 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By towerofpower94: Very cool. Kind of a GWOT/steam punk/ARMS catalogue mash up collection Thanks man, I think I need a bolt action host next. Maybe a ruger American with the brake and collar |
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SC, USA
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Posted: 10/22/2024 11:44:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By --FLEET--: Thanks man, I think I need a bolt action host next. Maybe a ruger American with the brake and collar I was just looking at bolt actions to host my AEM5 .30 Cal. Does anyone have any recommendations? |
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