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Posted: 7/2/2024 1:43:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: wayfaerer320]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By coregon: That is how NGSW is being delivered (After end user feedback), so it will be the configuration going forward. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By coregon: Originally Posted By call_me_ski: Is the 6.8 without the forward assist gonna be a limited edition item or regular production? That is how NGSW is being delivered (After end user feedback), so it will be the configuration going forward. @coregon Is the commercial NG68SPEAR-QD suppressor identical to the .mil issued version? |
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Posted: 7/2/2024 3:10:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wayfaerer320: @coregon Is the commercial NG68SPEAR-QD suppressor identical to the .mil issued version? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wayfaerer320: Originally Posted By coregon: Originally Posted By call_me_ski: Is the 6.8 without the forward assist gonna be a limited edition item or regular production? That is how NGSW is being delivered (After end user feedback), so it will be the configuration going forward. @coregon Is the commercial NG68SPEAR-QD suppressor identical to the .mil issued version? As identical as it gets. |
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Posted: 7/3/2024 11:51:29 AM EDT
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Just to make it clear, what are the differences between the new MCX Spear and the civilian .308?
What's the effettive weight difference without mag? Are civilian .308 Spear forward compatible with everything from the new 6.8 iteration, including barrel swaps? https://youtu.be/8S2avZI58v8?si=N2HensnkaGw_F3fp A sales manager here reports that there have been more internal changes, not allowing barrel kit compatibility. |
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Posted: 7/3/2024 6:28:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Roadblock]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Helvet: Just to make it clear, what are the differences between the new MCX Spear and the civilian .308? What's the effettive weight difference without mag? Are civilian .308 Spear forward compatible with everything from the new 6.8 iteration, including barrel swaps? https://youtu.be/8S2avZI58v8?si=N2HensnkaGw_F3fp A sales manager here reports that there have been more internal changes, not allowing barrel kit compatibility. Just watched it. Hope he misspoke, a lot of us have been waiting for barrels, and he's saying "no" and that even the lower receiver is different. |
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Posted: 7/3/2024 10:32:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Roadblock: Just watched it. Hope he misspoke, a lot of us have been waiting for barrels, and he's saying "no" and that even the lower receiver is different. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Roadblock: Originally Posted By Helvet: Just to make it clear, what are the differences between the new MCX Spear and the civilian .308? What's the effettive weight difference without mag? Are civilian .308 Spear forward compatible with everything from the new 6.8 iteration, including barrel swaps? https://youtu.be/8S2avZI58v8?si=N2HensnkaGw_F3fp A sales manager here reports that there have been more internal changes, not allowing barrel kit compatibility. Just watched it. Hope he misspoke, a lot of us have been waiting for barrels, and he's saying "no" and that even the lower receiver is different. Sounds like he needs a refresher course … |
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Posted: 7/3/2024 10:47:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thehun06: Sounds like he needs a refresher course … Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thehun06: Originally Posted By Roadblock: Originally Posted By Helvet: Just to make it clear, what are the differences between the new MCX Spear and the civilian .308? What's the effettive weight difference without mag? Are civilian .308 Spear forward compatible with everything from the new 6.8 iteration, including barrel swaps? https://youtu.be/8S2avZI58v8?si=N2HensnkaGw_F3fp A sales manager here reports that there have been more internal changes, not allowing barrel kit compatibility. Just watched it. Hope he misspoke, a lot of us have been waiting for barrels, and he's saying "no" and that even the lower receiver is different. Sounds like he needs a refresher course … That or he is meaning the buffer in the lower will need to be swapped too. It's retained by a screw, so unless SIG did a drastic overhaul, it should be swappable. As is, the youtube individual cut off the SIG rep mid sentence on what differences there were. |
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Posted: 7/4/2024 12:55:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Helvet: Just to make it clear, what are the differences between the new MCX Spear and the civilian .308? What's the effettive weight difference without mag? Are civilian .308 Spear forward compatible with everything from the new 6.8 iteration, including barrel swaps? https://youtu.be/8S2avZI58v8?si=N2HensnkaGw_F3fp A sales manager here reports that there have been more internal changes, not allowing barrel kit compatibility. He might as well be confusing with the very first batch, the one that was submitted for the trials and sold to civilians in 6.5 Creedmore. But I really want to make sure I got it right and everything is forward compatible before getting one myself. The sales manager also talked about a lot of weight reduction, so I'm trying to understand if the forward assist Is really the only weight cutting change made to the rifle, or if I am really missing some internal difference. |
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Posted: 7/5/2024 6:31:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Magsz18]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By coregon: That is how NGSW is being delivered (After end user feedback), so it will be the configuration going forward. @coregon Will the existing line of .308 and 6.5CM guns be updated to the XM7's current configuration? I really, really like the slick sided upper and new rail but I have zero interested in .277 fury. |
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Posted: 7/5/2024 8:37:26 PM EDT
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Ordered my XM7 SBR on Wednesday. I think I’ll end up selling my SCAR.
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Posted: 7/6/2024 3:42:59 AM EDT
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@coregon
Is there going to be a 6.5 Creedmoor commercial version of the carbine? |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 7/6/2024 10:04:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SuperMoose: Ordered my XM7 SBR on Wednesday. I think I’ll end up selling my SCAR. Where did you order your SBR? I haven't seen this listed anywhere yet. |
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KS, USA
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Posted: 7/7/2024 12:06:23 AM EDT
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Alrighty folks, I'm at a loss. Range trip number two for my Spear, and if anything, the problems got worse.
      Out of about 350rds downrange today, upwards of 10% had feeding issues of one type or another. The last picture shows the ones that were damaged enough I didn't apply "if it seats, it yeets" to. More were only slightly dinged, or just didn't feed and were shot. The Spear is new; this is its second trip to the range. First trip also had the same issues. Total rounds through the rifle is approximately 550-600. Mags are new, ammo is all factory from 4 manufacturers (Winchester/Lake City, PPU, PMC, and IMI), and the problem also occurred last time with Hornady Z-Max and Federal Gold Medal Match. The same problem occurs whether the rifle is being fired prone supported, seated, standing, etc. Kit/no kit also doesn't matter. It's not every mag, but ebbs and flows, sometimes back to back, and other times with a couple of functional mags worth between issues. Usually on the last or next to last round in the mag, but not always. Any ideas, or is this going to have to go back to Sig? |
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Posted: 7/7/2024 12:09:06 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Roadblock]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alpha-17: Alrighty folks, I'm at a loss. Range trip number two for my Spear, and if anything, the problems got worse. https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53840449375_d0cfa3f17d_c.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53840267848_383988e6dc_c.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53840358444_c605007f4b_c.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53840267808_618aee3512_c.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53840449320_8fd4825949_c.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53840358499_1715679df4_c.jpg Out of about 350rds downrange today, upwards of 10% had feeding issues of one type or another. The last picture shows the ones that were damaged enough I didn't apply "if it seats, it yeets" to. More were only slightly dinged, or just didn't feed and were shot. The Spear is new; this is its second trip to the range. First trip also had the same issues. Total rounds through the rifle is approximately 550-600. Mags are new, ammo is all factory from 4 manufacturers (Winchester/Lake City, PPU, PMC, and IMI), and the problem also occurred last time with Hornady Z-Max and Federal Gold Medal Match. The same problem occurs whether the rifle is being fired prone supported, seated, standing, etc. Kit/no kit also doesn't matter. It's not every mag, but ebbs and flows, sometimes back to back, and other times with a couple of functional mags worth between issues. Usually on the last or next to last round in the mag, but not always. Any ideas, or is this going to have to go back to Sig? My 10rd Magpul PMags are doing the same thing, my Lancer mags are not. |
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KS, USA
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Posted: 7/7/2024 8:36:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Roadblock: My 10rd Magpul PMags are doing the same thing, my Lancer mags are not. This happens with both PMags and Lancers for me, though it seems more common with PMags. (could just be a result of having more PMags so I'm using them more) |
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Posted: 7/7/2024 9:19:43 AM EDT
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At this point ... I would def open an RMA and share those pictures with Sig ... better go back to the mother ship before you waste more time and money ...
For what its worth ... I've had to send back 3 SCARs to the mothership back to back to back before ... 
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Posted: 7/7/2024 9:51:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thehun06: Yeah I like the forward assist myself too and with you that rail needs to be released ASAP!! |
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KS, USA
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Posted: 7/7/2024 1:12:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thehun06: At this point ... I would def open an RMA and share those pictures with Sig ... better go back to the mother ship before you waste more time and money ... For what its worth ... I've had to send back 3 SCARs to the mothership back to back to back before ... That's the plan at this point. Ironically, I've never had any issue with my SCARs. I was planning on taking the Spear to a carbine class in a couple of weeks, but it looks like the SCAR will have to step up and take over for that. |
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Posted: 7/7/2024 2:20:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alpha-17: Alrighty folks, I'm at a loss. Range trip number two for my Spear, and if anything, the problems got worse. https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53840449375_d0cfa3f17d_c.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53840267848_383988e6dc_c.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53840358444_c605007f4b_c.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53840267808_618aee3512_c.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53840449320_8fd4825949_c.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53840358499_1715679df4_c.jpg Out of about 350rds downrange today, upwards of 10% had feeding issues of one type or another. The last picture shows the ones that were damaged enough I didn't apply "if it seats, it yeets" to. More were only slightly dinged, or just didn't feed and were shot. The Spear is new; this is its second trip to the range. First trip also had the same issues. Total rounds through the rifle is approximately 550-600. Mags are new, ammo is all factory from 4 manufacturers (Winchester/Lake City, PPU, PMC, and IMI), and the problem also occurred last time with Hornady Z-Max and Federal Gold Medal Match. The same problem occurs whether the rifle is being fired prone supported, seated, standing, etc. Kit/no kit also doesn't matter. It's not every mag, but ebbs and flows, sometimes back to back, and other times with a couple of functional mags worth between issues. Usually on the last or next to last round in the mag, but not always. Any ideas, or is this going to have to go back to Sig? Dang. That stinks. I hate that you're going through this but I hope it's an isolated case. I have thirteen Magpul mags that I'm gonna use with my Spear. |
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Posted: 7/7/2024 2:44:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SPTiger: Dang. That stinks. I hate that you're going through this but I hope it's an isolated case. I have thirteen Magpul mags that I'm gonna use with my Spear. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SPTiger: Originally Posted By Alpha-17: Alrighty folks, I'm at a loss. Range trip number two for my Spear, and if anything, the problems got worse. https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53840449375_d0cfa3f17d_c.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53840267848_383988e6dc_c.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53840358444_c605007f4b_c.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53840267808_618aee3512_c.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53840449320_8fd4825949_c.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53840358499_1715679df4_c.jpg Out of about 350rds downrange today, upwards of 10% had feeding issues of one type or another. The last picture shows the ones that were damaged enough I didn't apply "if it seats, it yeets" to. More were only slightly dinged, or just didn't feed and were shot. The Spear is new; this is its second trip to the range. First trip also had the same issues. Total rounds through the rifle is approximately 550-600. Mags are new, ammo is all factory from 4 manufacturers (Winchester/Lake City, PPU, PMC, and IMI), and the problem also occurred last time with Hornady Z-Max and Federal Gold Medal Match. The same problem occurs whether the rifle is being fired prone supported, seated, standing, etc. Kit/no kit also doesn't matter. It's not every mag, but ebbs and flows, sometimes back to back, and other times with a couple of functional mags worth between issues. Usually on the last or next to last round in the mag, but not always. Any ideas, or is this going to have to go back to Sig? Dang. That stinks. I hate that you're going through this but I hope it's an isolated case. I have thirteen Magpul mags that I'm gonna use with my Spear. Few hundred rounds through my 13" with Lancer and PMAGs. No issues to report. Every company makes a lemon, SIG will make it right. Sucks for sure though. I had a 11.5" 5.56 Virtus that had cycling issues, SIG fixed it up fast. |
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Posted: 7/9/2024 11:25:16 AM EDT
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I’ve put about 200 rounds through my spear of 308 with zero issues using PMAGS only.
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KS, USA
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Posted: 7/10/2024 11:05:36 AM EDT
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Sig got back with me this morning. Basically "that sucks, send it back". We'll see what they say once they get their hands on it.
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Posted: 7/10/2024 10:53:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alpha-17: Sig got back with me this morning. Basically "that sucks, send it back". We'll see what they say once they get their hands on it. Better be safe than sorry. Sig are good people … |
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Posted: 7/13/2024 2:33:08 PM EDT
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Had my first part breakage today. Side charging handle spring either slipped out or sheared and is now dangling with no spring tension.
Can get a pic up later but should be an easy enough fix. Looks like a c clip holds the pin in place, should be able to pull that and remove the pin to get to the side charging handle spring. |
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Posted: 7/14/2024 9:05:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zerlak: Had my first part breakage today. Side charging handle spring either slipped out or sheared and is now dangling with no spring tension. Can get a pic up later but should be an easy enough fix. Looks like a c clip holds the pin in place, should be able to pull that and remove the pin to get to the side charging handle spring. Pic? |
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Posted: 7/14/2024 9:36:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thehun06: Pic? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thehun06: Originally Posted By Zerlak: Had my first part breakage today. Side charging handle spring either slipped out or sheared and is now dangling with no spring tension. Can get a pic up later but should be an easy enough fix. Looks like a c clip holds the pin in place, should be able to pull that and remove the pin to get to the side charging handle spring. Pic? https://imgur.com/jS45k2o https://imgur.com/QdFHdd9 https://imgur.com/OfphHEO |
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Posted: 7/14/2024 2:17:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Roadblock]
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I want to get that new charging handle when it's available, and apparently a couple spare springs! Yikes!
I bet SIG will send you a couple of those springs! Hell, I'd call CS and ask nicely for one of the new charging handles! You know, since you got to take it apart anyway! Easier to just swap out the whole handle than try to take it apart and put in a spring, right, cough?! |
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Posted: 7/14/2024 2:23:08 PM EDT
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Yeah. Sig CS should take care of you.
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Posted: 7/15/2024 4:42:03 PM EDT
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Just had a chat with SIG, they want to look at the failure and are requesting the full firearm to be sent in.
Seems I'm the first that had this issue, for this rep at least. |
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Posted: 7/16/2024 6:57:08 AM EDT
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Does anyone have the bolt catch not working when shooting the rifle resting on a pmag?
I ordered two lancer mags as I had the over insertion problem, and was wondering if they also fix this issue. |
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Posted: 7/16/2024 7:56:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Helvet: Does anyone have the bolt catch not working when shooting the rifle resting on a pmag? I ordered two lancer mags as I had the over insertion problem, and was wondering if they also fix this issue. I have tried and tried to induce malfunctions and issues with the PMAG ... no issues on my end regarding PMAGs |
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Posted: 7/16/2024 8:25:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thehun06: I have tried and tried to induce malfunctions and issues with the PMAG ... no issues on my end regarding PMAGs Really Hope Lancer can fix that, else if, I guess a call at Sig CS might be the case |
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Posted: 7/18/2024 7:49:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: SPTiger]
[#32]
Finally got my Spear. Only had time to put a few rounds through it, but it functioned fine out of the Magpul twenty I was using. The ammo was Portuguese M80. Now if someone would just get a Surefire 762 mini in stock I’d be set. Gonna use my big-ass Specwar 762 in the meantime.
ETA- I had already bought a Magpul STR to replace the dinky Magpul that came on it. 
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Posted: 7/19/2024 12:19:47 PM EDT
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I recently picked up an MCX, I've only got a few rounds through it, but I'm happy with it so far. I still need to set up with a can and everything.
 (Please pardon my censoring, don't have a better photo handy) @coregon I don't know if you have influence over this, but I have a complaint for you that your customer service guys wouldn't address: They don't know how to pack shit. I ordered a 5.56 MCX LT upper direct from Sig. It showed up in a cardboard box that rattled like a maraca. It was a simple rectangular box with a piece of egg crate foam above and below the upper. The bolt group was disassembled and everything was rattling around in the box. The bolt group was up past the muzzle. The ass end of the upper was chewed up, with a significant burr in the recoil spring channel (I assume from the bolt group bouncing around). That foam isn't enough to secure everything. I informed your guys about the packing deficiency and sent it back. I just got the replacement, and I could hear the bolt group sliding around in the box (I can provide video of the sealed box making noises, if that matters to you). When I opened it, I see this:  There was no attempt to pack it better. There's a few scratches and dings from the bolt group/handle/rsa bouncing around, but nothing like the first upper, so I'll keep this one, but I really expect better packaging for something this expensive. Mainly, you need to do something to lock down the bolt group and keep it from leaving the upper in shipping. Maybe not using a chamber flag, installing the bolt all the way, and closing the port door is enough? The closed door would keep the bolt group from exiting, and the carrier hitting the door is a normal wear spot. Maybe something else if you insist on inserting a chamber flag, but you gotta do something. A half installed bolt group will move and fall out of an upper.  I know I'll put all sorts of scratches and dings on this, but for the price, I should be the first one to put a dent in it. It shouldn't show up looking like it got tossed down my driveway. |
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Posted: 7/24/2024 1:00:24 PM EDT
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Went into work yesterday to find a Spear sitting on my desk. (joys of working at an FFL) Turns out, Sig didn't bother trying to figure out what was wrong with mine, they just sent a new one as a replacement. Really would have liked to know what was wrong with the first one, but at least I've got a new gun to play with. Gotta build up my .308/7.62 stash again, and I can try to break this one in. Hopefully it goes better than with the first one.
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Posted: 7/25/2024 10:37:57 AM EDT
[Last Edit: thehun06]
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https://www.weaponsandwar.tv/videos/20240718-sig-spear-11
Pretty good review and yes the gassing is way overgassed in my opinion on the Spear ... brake and a suppressor is really a must but man ... I want someone to make an adjustable gas plug ... I disagree that it isn't a good civilian weapon ... |
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KS, USA
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Posted: 7/25/2024 11:01:40 AM EDT
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Got the new Spear set up. Decided to leave the Sig MSR on my SCAR for now, as I think it has the accuracy to really take advantage of the 10x, while I'm not sure the Spear does. We'll see. I might switch back, or I might end up going the other way and just use an EOTech and magnifier on it.
 
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Posted: 7/25/2024 11:07:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alpha-17: Got the new Spear set up. Decided to leave the Sig MSR on my SCAR for now, as I think it has the accuracy to really take advantage of the 10x, while I'm not sure the Spear does. We'll see. I might switch back, or I might end up going the other way and just use an EOTech and magnifier on it. https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53879490377_1ab132d807_c.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53880727149_ee81b273c9_c.jpg Nice! Double check your torque on the barrel screws ... I always do ... regardless if its a SCAR or Spear ... one time my SCAR barrel screws from factory were set to 15 inch/lbs ... so every since then ... I check it ... |
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Posted: 7/25/2024 11:19:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alpha-17: Got the new Spear set up. Decided to leave the Sig MSR on my SCAR for now, as I think it has the accuracy to really take advantage of the 10x, while I'm not sure the Spear does. We'll see. I might switch back, or I might end up going the other way and just use an EOTech and magnifier on it. https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53879490377_1ab132d807_c.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53880727149_ee81b273c9_c.jpg Nice! My Spear malfunctioned twice like yours did, both times with the bolt slamming into the cartridge case. It was with two different Magpul mags and two different kinds of ammo. Both times it happened I was using a suppressor. So far I've fired just under 100 rounds through it, with three malfunctions. The third malfunction was my fault I think. I was shooting prone with the mag against the ground. The front of the mag went high enough into the well to keep the spent case from coming out, and the next round slammed into the back of the spent case. I had to take a cleaning rod and beat the damn spent case out. It hasn't happened again, but I was ready to throw the rifle in the trash until I realized it was more than likely my fault. I haven't been able to replicate that malfunction. But I will say shooting this with a standard suppressor is absolutely brutal. I hope I don't develop lung cancer before I can get a flow through suppressor. |
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Posted: 7/26/2024 9:52:19 AM EDT
[Last Edit: thehun06]
[#39]
Talked to KNS and the Spear 308 is on the short list to get one of their adjustable gas plugs made for it ... so lets hope that comes out sooner than later ...
If we all ask about it via their contact page ... I think it will help get that project started on their end faster ... demand drives supply .. |
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Posted: 7/27/2024 11:39:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thehun06: Talked to KNS and the Spear 308 is on the short list to get one of their adjustable gas plugs made for it ... so lets hope that comes out sooner than later ... If we all ask about it via their contact page ... I think it will help get that project started on their end faster ... demand drives supply .. Done! Maybe this will come sooner than later. In the meantime, I've ordered a Huxwrx 762 Flow Ti from Capitol Armory. I put three mags through my Spear the other day and my face looked like I'd been working in the coal mines. Hopefully the Huxwrx can will take care of that. |
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Posted: 7/27/2024 3:52:18 PM EDT
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My SPEAR shipped. Excited to check it out when it gets to the shop. Hopefully the paperwork moves quickly.
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Posted: 8/2/2024 12:32:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thehun06: Talked to KNS and the Spear 308 is on the short list to get one of their adjustable gas plugs made for it ... so lets hope that comes out sooner than later ... If we all ask about it via their contact page ... I think it will help get that project started on their end faster ... demand drives supply .. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 8/2/2024 11:00:02 AM EDT
[#43]
SIG received my Spear yesterday morning and have already dropped it off with FedEx today.
Fastest warranty turnaround time I've ever seen. Currently arriving Tuesday, hopefully with a fixed spring/charging handle. |
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Posted: 8/2/2024 4:19:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alpha-17: Alrighty folks, I'm at a loss. Range trip number two for my Spear, and if anything, the problems got worse. https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53840449375_d0cfa3f17d_c.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53840267848_383988e6dc_c.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53840358444_c605007f4b_c.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53840267808_618aee3512_c.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53840449320_8fd4825949_c.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53840358499_1715679df4_c.jpg Out of about 350rds downrange today, upwards of 10% had feeding issues of one type or another. The last picture shows the ones that were damaged enough I didn't apply "if it seats, it yeets" to. More were only slightly dinged, or just didn't feed and were shot. The Spear is new; this is its second trip to the range. First trip also had the same issues. Total rounds through the rifle is approximately 550-600. Mags are new, ammo is all factory from 4 manufacturers (Winchester/Lake City, PPU, PMC, and IMI), and the problem also occurred last time with Hornady Z-Max and Federal Gold Medal Match. The same problem occurs whether the rifle is being fired prone supported, seated, standing, etc. Kit/no kit also doesn't matter. It's not every mag, but ebbs and flows, sometimes back to back, and other times with a couple of functional mags worth between issues. Usually on the last or next to last round in the mag, but not always. Any ideas, or is this going to have to go back to Sig? Second range day, literally had the same problem. 6 FTF out of 60 rounds shot with lancer mags. Bolt catch also working inconsistently, closing also when the last round is shot and the mag is empty. Sent an email today to my Sig Sauer official importer, let's see how it goes. |
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Posted: 8/3/2024 8:50:46 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Roadblock]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Helvet: Second range day, literally had the same problem. 6 FTF out of 60 rounds shot with lancer mags. Bolt catch also working inconsistently, closing also when the last round is shot and the mag is empty. Sent an email today to my Sig Sauer official importer, let's see how it goes. I exclusively bought the 6.8x51 magazines for my 7.62x51, and they run flawlessly. I have some minor issues with 20 round Magpul Pmags and the 10 round Pmags are 100% non-functional, they just keep crushing rounds. Side note, I ran every single crushed round I had through my Spear with the forward assist, cough. Square peg in a round hole but if it fit, it shipped! |
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Posted: 8/3/2024 9:35:31 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Helvet]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Roadblock: Which Lancer mags are you running? I exclusively bought the 6.8x51 magazines for my 7.62x51, and they run flawlessly. I have some minor issues with 20 round Magpul Pmags and the 10 round Pmags are 100% non-functional, they just keep crushing rounds. Side note, I ran every single crushed round I had through my Spear with the forward assist, cough. Square peg in a round hole but if it fit, it shipped! I'm running L7AWM, L6 are not available in Switzerland at the moment unfortunately. Couple notes: First range trip with Magpul 20rds I didn't have FTF issues, but the bolt catch was working inconsistently. My mistake was not taking both yesterday as I thought that Lancer would solve the issues. The feed issues are exactly as pictured by the other user, where the rounds get sometimes stuck and bent under the Bolt, and sometimes just scratched without ever leaving the mag. Another difference is that this time I was running an M4-72 brake. Don't know how this could mess up things, but worth adding this variable. Last but not least, I noticed that the gas settings in the manual are "Normal" and "Adverse", with the valve being canted to the left or to the right. If I check my gas block, the settings are "Normal" and "Suppressed", with the normal setting having the valve perfectly vertical at zero degrees, and the suppressed setting with the valve canted 45 degrees to the right. Might probably give It another try with Magpul before sending it to Sig and see how it runs, but the fact that some people tried to force over insertion with pmags without success while I easily could sounds like a red flag to me. https://imgur.com/a/U6yYHy2 |
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Posted: 8/3/2024 10:16:00 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Helvet]
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Posted: 8/3/2024 1:33:40 PM EDT
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Submitted my paperwork for my Form 4 on the SBR today. We'll see how long this takes to get approved. At some point I'll stop by the shop to check it out.
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Posted: 8/3/2024 5:23:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SuperMoose: Submitted my paperwork for my Form 4 on the SBR today. We'll see how long this takes to get approved. At some point I'll stop by the shop to check it out. My MPX took 3 days … |
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Posted: 8/3/2024 7:44:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thehun06: My MPX took 3 days … It's on a trust. I did two silencers back in February that took ~100-120 days. Right before these faster approvals. I'm not holding my breath of anything fast. If it happens, awesome. |
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