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I thought the actual point of the 6.8 was to basically replace both the M249 and the M240 with the same weapon. Light enough to be used like a 249 but powerful enough to be used like a 240.
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"Recoil Mitigation System" is included View Quote Failed To Load Title Followed by, Don't be a Bitch!! |
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Quoted: So dumb. 6.8 has shit BC, compared to either side of it's diameter 6.5mm and 7mm. The longer you hang onto velocity through BC, the further your armor penetration reach is extended. How can they be this dumb. View Quote |
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You can design a 6.8 bullet with just as high a bc as a 6.5 bullet. It will weigh more than a similar 6.5 bullet and less than a similar 7mm bullet. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: So dumb. 6.8 has shit BC, compared to either side of it's diameter 6.5mm and 7mm. The longer you hang onto velocity through BC, the further your armor penetration reach is extended. How can they be this dumb. |
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That may be the case, but if they can eke out 600m level iv penetration, I want to try it. View Quote The significantly higher BC of a 120gr 6.5mm will also further enhance the range, armor penetration and hit probability over a 6.8mm. Again the Army proves it knows fuck all squared about guns. It doesn’t even know the most basic concepts. Like day 1 shit. |
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What happened to the cased telescoped round? And why not just go with .270 short win mag instead of inventing a new round that does the same thing? Man the army can waste money like nobody else... just watch them about-face, follow the Marines and get into the 5.56 HK416 in the end. View Quote While it may be necessary, I'm not sure going with a 7.62x51 sized cartridge will work to replace the M4, due to reduced ammunition capacities. |
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SIG has incorporated a recoil mitigation technology into the Next Gen belt-fed. This brings the recoil in at 2.8 lbs while an M240 in 7.62mm has a Recoil impulse of 13.1 lbs. Considering they are seeing a muzzle velocity of over 3000 FPS for a 16? barrel, this is impressive. View Quote |
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SIG has incorporated a recoil mitigation technology into the Next Gen belt-fed. This brings the recoil in at 2.8 lbs while an M240 in 7.62mm has a Recoil impulse of 13.1 lbs. Considering they are seeing a muzzle velocity of over 3000 FPS for a 16? barrel, this is impressive. |
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SIG wasn't the vendor doing cased telescoping ammo, that was another vendor. Each vendor is responsible for coming up with their own solution to the problem of pushing the government specified projectile to the desired velocities while reducing cartridge weight. While it may be necessary, I'm not sure going with a 7.62x51 sized cartridge will work to replace the M4, due to reduced ammunition capacities. View Quote |
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If this goes anywhere, I can see 6.5 Creedoor becoming a thing of the past.
In fact...why didn't they just make a new projectile for 6.5CM? EDIT: I guess this is going to become the new thing for the AR-10? |
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im all for it
as long as sig isnt the contract winner. garbage company posing as a quality company |
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It is this time. The NGSW is happening no matter how bad the guns are, this is happening. @GS5414 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Joglee thread M4 isn’t going anywhere @GS5414 That’s almost a word for word quote of what you’ve been saying for several years about several different firearms and calibers... |
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270 WSM. Won't ever happen on a service rifle.
Any cartridge with that kinda smash will eat barrels and shoulders. The average troop these days has never fired a gun and to toss them a weapon with 270WSM recoil and say have at would be a huge mistake. Advanced and experienced shooters sure but rank and file grunt, sky cop etc. It would be a huge mistake. |
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Nope 210rds per soldier in 25rd mags. Our new Millennial female Infantry will be fine. View Quote You have to take into account the ammo is 6.8x51. that means your running 7.62 NATO size mags, even if they're lighter....they're heavier than 5.56 and significantly more bulky in volume taken up. |
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270 WSM. Won't ever happen on a service rifle. Any cartridge with that kinda smash will eat barrels and shoulders. The average troop these days has never fired a gun and to toss them a weapon with 270WSM recoil and say have at would be a huge mistake. Advanced and experienced shooters sure but rank and file grunt, sky cop etc. It would be a huge mistake. View Quote |
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Glock needs to make a goddamn rifle and underbid Sig on rifles and pistols.
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True, they begin adoption and Fielding by 2020/2021, it'll take years to replace all the M4s in service. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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