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Quoted: Maybe because every fitness thread is unbelievable. I have a short list in my head of regular fitness posters who I would take their word for it if they said they did something, yourself included. I'm skeptical of most. One guy says he's sub 4% body fat every day and functioning as normal for example. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I think I’m pretty good at 47 and 175lb Ran 5mi last week @7:09 avg/mi In the weight room: I’m doing 5sets x 6 @260 on bench 5sets x 6 @ 310 on squat I don't believe you, sorry. Why not? None of that is unbelievable. Maybe because every fitness thread is unbelievable. I have a short list in my head of regular fitness posters who I would take their word for it if they said they did something, yourself included. I'm skeptical of most. One guy says he's sub 4% body fat every day and functioning as normal for example. Which I totally understand. I agree with you. It's just those numbers posted seem pretty reasonable to me. |
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Quoted: So this random 47 year old on ARFCOM is bench pressing 75% of the masters raw powerlifting record, 60% of the masters raw powerlifting squat, and also running the better part of a 10k at his age groups average winning pace? Like I said. I don't believe it. https://www.powerliftingwatch.com/records/raw/masters-world https://www.olyrun.com/average-10k-time/ View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Why not? None of that is unbelievable. So this random 47 year old on ARFCOM is bench pressing 75% of the masters raw powerlifting record, 60% of the masters raw powerlifting squat, and also running the better part of a 10k at his age groups average winning pace? Like I said. I don't believe it. https://www.powerliftingwatch.com/records/raw/masters-world https://www.olyrun.com/average-10k-time/ You're saying 70% or 60% is impressive. It's certainly respectable and not unimpressive but it's certainly within the reach of any lifter who puts in the time. Naturally too. Same with the run. |
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Quoted: Which I totally understand. I agree with you. It's just those numbers posted seem pretty reasonable to me. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I think I’m pretty good at 47 and 175lb Ran 5mi last week @7:09 avg/mi In the weight room: I’m doing 5sets x 6 @260 on bench 5sets x 6 @ 310 on squat I don't believe you, sorry. Why not? None of that is unbelievable. Maybe because every fitness thread is unbelievable. I have a short list in my head of regular fitness posters who I would take their word for it if they said they did something, yourself included. I'm skeptical of most. One guy says he's sub 4% body fat every day and functioning as normal for example. Which I totally understand. I agree with you. It's just those numbers posted seem pretty reasonable to me. Agreed. While those numbers are better than 99% of the population, and great for a 175 lb 47 year old, they’re not out of the realm for those of us who put in the work at the gym. |
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My Garmin app tells me that it's calculated VO2 max/kg for me gives me a fitness age 21 years younger than I actually am.
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Quoted: Agreed. While those numbers are better than 99% of the population, and great for a 175 lb 47 year old, they’re not out of the realm for those of us who put in the work at the gym. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I think I’m pretty good at 47 and 175lb Ran 5mi last week @7:09 avg/mi In the weight room: I’m doing 5sets x 6 @260 on bench 5sets x 6 @ 310 on squat I don't believe you, sorry. Why not? None of that is unbelievable. Maybe because every fitness thread is unbelievable. I have a short list in my head of regular fitness posters who I would take their word for it if they said they did something, yourself included. I'm skeptical of most. One guy says he's sub 4% body fat every day and functioning as normal for example. Which I totally understand. I agree with you. It's just those numbers posted seem pretty reasonable to me. Agreed. While those numbers are better than 99% of the population, and great for a 175 lb 47 year old, they’re not out of the realm for those of us who put in the work at the gym. @lefty_weaver *** I think he's similar in size. IIRC, benching 315lbs? |
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5'3" 287lbs
It's okay to be jealous, not everyone can be a stunning adonis like me. |
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Can the body absorb more than 25-30gr of protein at one time? Be careful with your kidneys.
Does dietary fat translate to stored body fat? You say AM workout, second workout, hike - are you doing doubles all the time? Are you getting recovery time? I agree with most here about 1,000 calories. It sounds miserable and may be working against you. I’m a functional fitness guy. Lift heavy things off the ground, throw them down. Weighted rucks, sandbag rucks, sprints. I don’t care (that much) about how I look as long as I’m strong, have endurance, and somewhat flexible. I just bought a Rogue sledgehammer that I’m looking forward to crushing things with. I do understand the drive for abs though. I see mine, they are just napping under a mid-weight quilt. Quoted: I cook from scratch. I weigh all my food raw and log it in grams or ounces. My diet is pretty plain. In the morning I have my Men's health vitamins, 140 g blueberries, and between 17 and 18 oz of boneless/skinless chicken breast (I trim off any visible fat before I weigh it), cooked plain with no oil, just a dash of garlic salt, onion powder, and Montreal chicken seasoning. Then I do my AM workout. A couple hours after my first workout, I take in about 62 g of protein powder. I workout again and hike. Then take in another 32 g of protein powder in the evening. Every Sunday I'll have some micronutrient dense foods: Beef liver, chicken eggs, and salmon eggs. I'm hitting my daily protein minimums of atleast 175g protein per day, and keeping it at right around 1k cals. Severe cut, but it's working and I'm not losing muscle or strength. View Quote |
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At 145lbs you need to double + those calories and start doing some heavy core exercises. Build up those abdominal muscles and they’ll be easier to see.
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I recently hiked a 15k mountain with no prep, beat par time by hours, and had no recovery period. I'm fit enough.
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Quoted: Quoted: I recently hiked a 15k mountain with no prep, beat par time by hours, and had no recovery period. I'm fit enough. I thought you wouldn’t know. That's just for hijinks if I ever got called into court. |
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Quoted: 147, 5'9", 1000 cal/day, sounds like a girl I dated a while back. Here's me at 6'0", 230ish. 50 year old man. I've got legs though. I can't even fathom cutting at 147. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/146/IMG-0989-231461.jpg I guess I'm not fit. I'm definitely not meant to be a runner, not built to be a runner, and I don't consider running fast or far to be an advantage in my life. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: 147, 5'9", 1000 cal/day, sounds like a girl I dated a while back. Here's me at 6'0", 230ish. 50 year old man. I've got legs though. I can't even fathom cutting at 147. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/146/IMG-0989-231461.jpg Quoted: The actual real definition of fitness is cardio capacity. If you are 10% bodyfat, weigh 230lbs and can bench 480 but can't run a 5k in under 27 minutes you aren't fit. I guess I'm not fit. I'm definitely not meant to be a runner, not built to be a runner, and I don't consider running fast or far to be an advantage in my life. Where do you get your juice from, i cant find it anywhere nowadays. |
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This is my current state. I'm 42, 5'10 and 180#. I lift five days a week, and I ride over 100 miles a week. I haven't been running as much but I will occasionally replace a ride with a 7 mile run or so. Usually around a 9:30 pace, nothing fast. I can still do a mile in around 6:15 though. I track calories and usually get to 3000 or so on normal workout days, usually with 200 grams of protein. I drink every day, usually bourbon. Sometimes wine or beer. I'm generally low carb and am not big on sweets, but I don't deny myself. No clue on body composition. Somewhere between 10 and 15% based on pictures. |
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Quoted: 147, 5'9", 1000 cal/day, sounds like a girl I dated a while back. Here's me at 6'0", 230ish. 50 year old man. I've got legs though. I can't even fathom cutting at 147. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/146/IMG-0989-231461.jpg I guess I'm not fit. I'm definitely not meant to be a runner, not built to be a runner, and I don't consider running fast or far to be an advantage in my life. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: 147, 5'9", 1000 cal/day, sounds like a girl I dated a while back. Here's me at 6'0", 230ish. 50 year old man. I've got legs though. I can't even fathom cutting at 147. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/146/IMG-0989-231461.jpg Quoted: The actual real definition of fitness is cardio capacity. If you are 10% bodyfat, weigh 230lbs and can bench 480 but can't run a 5k in under 27 minutes you aren't fit. I guess I'm not fit. I'm definitely not meant to be a runner, not built to be a runner, and I don't consider running fast or far to be an advantage in my life. Dude, that Goonies shirt is awesome. |
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5'9" 252lbs ~26% BF, 40 years old
Ruck 45lbs 2miles a day, ~17min pace, little to no distance running Lift 2-3 times/week - 415 squat, 285 bench, 485 deadlift Goals in order: 1) Cut calories to lose weight by tracking calories, less alcohol, supplement protein w/ powder 2) Increase cardio to improve VO2 by increasing ruck distance to 3 min/day, decreasing time to ~15 min/mi, also adding in a couple unweight mile runs/biking 3) Try maintain strength with compound lifts Goal weight for this year is 220lbs, should end up ~20% BF. Will reassess from there about getting down to 15-18%, hopefully closer to 200lbs. |
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Quoted: Quoted: 147, 5'9", 1000 cal/day, sounds like a girl I dated a while back. Here's me at 6'0", 230ish. 50 year old man. I've got legs though. I can't even fathom cutting at 147. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/146/IMG-0989-231461.jpg Quoted: The actual real definition of fitness is cardio capacity. If you are 10% bodyfat, weigh 230lbs and can bench 480 but can't run a 5k in under 27 minutes you aren't fit. I guess I'm not fit. I'm definitely not meant to be a runner, not built to be a runner, and I don't consider running fast or far to be an advantage in my life. Dude, that Goonies shirt is awesome. I've got the same one and it's the only shirt I've ever gotten comments on. I thought I had a pic but a video will do F.A.S.T 5.87 8/21 |
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Some of you dudes are cut!
I am built for cycling and trail running. Lightweight and limber. With a fucked back. |
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I’m in my mid-50s and I just had my best annual physical in over 10 years. My blood chemistry is perfect and Doc says I have the heart of a 30yo.
and that ain’t bad |
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My last dexa scan 2 weeks ago says 13% body fat. I ran 5mi yesterday when it was 107f in Dallas, and my last chest day was 18,000lbs lifted. Resting heart rate is at 61bps, vo2max is teetering on 38. I’ll wake up and go run 10k tomorrow morning at 6am.
What do I win? |
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What's the source of the calories?
How many meals? Do more steps. |
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I’m 5’9 and 170. I’ve dropped lower and into single digit body fat but I felt weaker and didn’t like how I looked. You need to eat, lift and get strong. Cut the fat later.
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I hike every weekend and lift during the week. Recently been getting 4x6 on pullups with 25 lbs added on the belt. Not my best but not bad at 305.
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My pcp repeatedly tells me I’m in the top 10 percent for my age. Early 60’s
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Quoted: The actual real definition of fitness is cardio capacity. If you are 10% bodyfat, weigh 230lbs and can bench 480 but can't run a 5k in under 27 minutes you aren't fit. View Quote Attached File |
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View Quote This is why I only do cardio. Granted I can’t bench my own body weight or dead lift over a hundred pounds. |
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I’m doing OK but check out my son’s abs. Granted, he was ready/flexing while I’m bullshitting. Either way his abs are better than mine. He doesn’t drink beer.
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I’m same weight as OP.
I’m naturally skinny. 5 months post op from an ACL replacement so my left leg lost a lot of definition and I’m working hard to get it back. I don’t really hit the gym much but I do bike, hike, golf, and get outside with the dog everyday. I’ve just started lifting as I want to get more strength and I’m starting from a lean “blank canvas” |
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Quoted: Get some skinfold calipers. These are cheap, and can be used solo. www.amazon.com/dp/B000G7YW74 Practice with them until you develop the consistency in your technique to get 3 identical measurements in a row each time. Do this BEFORE getting the DEXA scan. This will give you an idea of your offset( the difference in your skinfold measurement BF%, vs the DEXA measured BF%). This way, you can measure your own BF% once a week, and track your progress. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: 5'9" and 147 lbs is emaciated. I'm the same height and 165 right now, probably 12% BF......and I'm too small. Eat and lift. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/deOINby-52.gif Body type is a thing. Though op, i question your body fat percentage numbers. I dont see how they could be that high with your height weight intake and regimen It actually could be alot lower than that. I can see my top two abs and a bit of my 3rd and 4th abs below that. But I also tend to bloat alot around my midsection, so it's often hard to tell (I look leanest first thing in the AM). I plan on getting a Dexa scan soon so I can know for sure. Get some skinfold calipers. These are cheap, and can be used solo. www.amazon.com/dp/B000G7YW74 Practice with them until you develop the consistency in your technique to get 3 identical measurements in a row each time. Do this BEFORE getting the DEXA scan. This will give you an idea of your offset( the difference in your skinfold measurement BF%, vs the DEXA measured BF%). This way, you can measure your own BF% once a week, and track your progress. Ordered! Thank you very much for that tip. |
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I'm 64.
6'2" 183 lbs. Pretty active, no beer or pop. Cut back on eating is the key. Banana for breakfast, hand full of peanuts for lunch, eat a full dinner. |
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Quoted: If you just put on muscle and kept the same amount of fat then your BF percentage would drop while you gained weight and got stronger. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: OP is on a non-sustainable, starvation diet with only 1,000 calories/day and working out. You are actually hurting yourself. Only until I drop 5% body fat, if that. Then I hit maintenance for a while. Your body has crashed your metabolism (or will) at 1000 calories. Up the calories. Find your maintenance. Drop 300 calories below maintenance. Lift weights. I can do 26 pull-ups bc I do weighted pull-ups and actually progress. Progressive overload is a thing. So is not doing death march cuts. You're not going to be able to sustain 5% for very long. Get to 10% (if you can even measure) and see how that feels. You're probably best off 12 to 15% What I meant to say is that I'm at roughly 15% and trying to drop to 10%. Once I get there I'll eat at maintenance and start doing heavy weight lifting again. If you just put on muscle and kept the same amount of fat then your BF percentage would drop while you gained weight and got stronger. Okay, I've been told this. But will increasing muscle while not gaining fat make my abs show? That is my current goal. I don't see how gaining extra muscle would make the current layer of fat disappear from my midsection, than cutting would. My plan is to drop another 5-10 lbs of fat while maintaining muscle, then perform a slow bulk by lifting heavy and maintaining abdominal definition. |
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I'm 52, 6', 255ish, havent worked out in memory, walk the dog occasionally and this morning unloaded a trailer of about 130 alfalfa squares and carried them into a building and stacked them, my fingers are a little sore. Wife dropped them to the deck of the trailer so i could grab them. Farm strong, fit? Not really.
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Quoted: Okay, I've been told this. But will increasing muscle while not gaining fat make my abs show? That is my current goal. I don't see how gaining extra muscle would make the current layer of fat disappear from my midsection, than cutting would. My plan is to drop another 5-10 lbs of fat while maintaining muscle, then perform a slow bulk by lifting heavy and maintaining abdominal definition. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: OP is on a non-sustainable, starvation diet with only 1,000 calories/day and working out. You are actually hurting yourself. Only until I drop 5% body fat, if that. Then I hit maintenance for a while. Your body has crashed your metabolism (or will) at 1000 calories. Up the calories. Find your maintenance. Drop 300 calories below maintenance. Lift weights. I can do 26 pull-ups bc I do weighted pull-ups and actually progress. Progressive overload is a thing. So is not doing death march cuts. You're not going to be able to sustain 5% for very long. Get to 10% (if you can even measure) and see how that feels. You're probably best off 12 to 15% What I meant to say is that I'm at roughly 15% and trying to drop to 10%. Once I get there I'll eat at maintenance and start doing heavy weight lifting again. If you just put on muscle and kept the same amount of fat then your BF percentage would drop while you gained weight and got stronger. Okay, I've been told this. But will increasing muscle while not gaining fat make my abs show? That is my current goal. I don't see how gaining extra muscle would make the current layer of fat disappear from my midsection, than cutting would. My plan is to drop another 5-10 lbs of fat while maintaining muscle, then perform a slow bulk by lifting heavy and maintaining abdominal definition. 1. Abs are a muscle. Build the muscle to make it bigger. 2. Typically increasing muscle mass will increase your metabolism and help burn fat. |
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Quoted: 1. Abs are a muscle. Build the muscle to make it bigger. 2. Typically increasing muscle mass will increase your metabolism and help burn fat. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: OP is on a non-sustainable, starvation diet with only 1,000 calories/day and working out. You are actually hurting yourself. Only until I drop 5% body fat, if that. Then I hit maintenance for a while. Your body has crashed your metabolism (or will) at 1000 calories. Up the calories. Find your maintenance. Drop 300 calories below maintenance. Lift weights. I can do 26 pull-ups bc I do weighted pull-ups and actually progress. Progressive overload is a thing. So is not doing death march cuts. You're not going to be able to sustain 5% for very long. Get to 10% (if you can even measure) and see how that feels. You're probably best off 12 to 15% What I meant to say is that I'm at roughly 15% and trying to drop to 10%. Once I get there I'll eat at maintenance and start doing heavy weight lifting again. If you just put on muscle and kept the same amount of fat then your BF percentage would drop while you gained weight and got stronger. Okay, I've been told this. But will increasing muscle while not gaining fat make my abs show? That is my current goal. I don't see how gaining extra muscle would make the current layer of fat disappear from my midsection, than cutting would. My plan is to drop another 5-10 lbs of fat while maintaining muscle, then perform a slow bulk by lifting heavy and maintaining abdominal definition. 1. Abs are a muscle. Build the muscle to make it bigger. 2. Typically increasing muscle mass will increase your metabolism and help burn fat. That actually makes sense. Should I continue to cut at this rate for another month, and then start my slow bulk? I have a heavily muscled upper body, but skinny legs. That explains my low weight. I still look good with my shirt off. I just want as much abdominal definition as possible before I begin a gradual bulk. |
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Quoted: That actually makes sense. Should I continue to cut at this rate for another month, and then start my slow bulk? I have a heavily muscled upper body, but skinny legs. That explains my low weight. I still look good with my shirt off. I just want as much abdominal definition as possible before I begin a gradual bulk. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: OP is on a non-sustainable, starvation diet with only 1,000 calories/day and working out. You are actually hurting yourself. Only until I drop 5% body fat, if that. Then I hit maintenance for a while. Your body has crashed your metabolism (or will) at 1000 calories. Up the calories. Find your maintenance. Drop 300 calories below maintenance. Lift weights. I can do 26 pull-ups bc I do weighted pull-ups and actually progress. Progressive overload is a thing. So is not doing death march cuts. You're not going to be able to sustain 5% for very long. Get to 10% (if you can even measure) and see how that feels. You're probably best off 12 to 15% What I meant to say is that I'm at roughly 15% and trying to drop to 10%. Once I get there I'll eat at maintenance and start doing heavy weight lifting again. If you just put on muscle and kept the same amount of fat then your BF percentage would drop while you gained weight and got stronger. Okay, I've been told this. But will increasing muscle while not gaining fat make my abs show? That is my current goal. I don't see how gaining extra muscle would make the current layer of fat disappear from my midsection, than cutting would. My plan is to drop another 5-10 lbs of fat while maintaining muscle, then perform a slow bulk by lifting heavy and maintaining abdominal definition. 1. Abs are a muscle. Build the muscle to make it bigger. 2. Typically increasing muscle mass will increase your metabolism and help burn fat. That actually makes sense. Should I continue to cut at this rate for another month, and then start my slow bulk? I have a heavily muscled upper body, but skinny legs. That explains my low weight. I still look good with my shirt off. I just want as much abdominal definition as possible before I begin a gradual bulk. Don't even think about bulking. It's a stupid term. You do need to eat more. You also need to squat and deadlift. |
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